Baroness Jones

[SydneyRover]

And until we have this information it casts a slur on the whole force and unfortunately a lot of genuine hard working coppers are ''tarred'' with the same brush.

[belton rover]

And until we have this information it casts a slur on the whole force and unfortunately a lot of genuine hard working coppers are ''tarred'' with the same brush.

Only by people like you.

[SydneyRover]

So tell me how it doesn't belton?

[SydneyRover]

boo

[belton rover]

Because people who aren’t like you believe in the recruitment and vetting process.

[SydneyRover]

''people kile you'' pathetic belton no answers to important questions so distract and wind up?

What wrong with the public knowing about police criminal history they know about averyone elses?

What level of crime do you condone and how many times can they do it?

[belton rover]

Have you been on the Fosters for breakfast, Sydney? You’re even more incoherent than usual.

[SydneyRover]

The most recent case of Sarah Everard with a police officer charged with her kidnap and murder, another removed from the case for sharing inappropriate images on social media and an enquiry into the Met to see whether an indecent exposure incident by the murder suspect was properly investigated.

Nothing to see here apparently?

[bpoolrover]

As there was a lot of uproar of the police actions during the vigil/protest and probably quite rightly so, it has to be said how awful the thugs male and female ones acted yesterday leaving several police injured 2 seriously

[wilts rover]

As there was a lot of uproar of the police actions during the vigil/protest and probably quite rightly so, it has to be said how awful the thugs male and female ones acted yesterday leaving several police injured 2 seriously

Agreed. Appalling and disgraceful behaviour by a number of people/thugs and I hope they arrest and charge every one.

[drfchound]

Yep, disgraceful behaviour and yet not many on on here seem to be bothered.

[MachoMadness]

Eyewitnesses seem to agree it was provoked by a disproportionate response from the police again. But this time they weren't picking on grieving women, and these people were happy to respond disproportionately themselves. Not justified but entirely predictable. Of course these reports may well turn out to be protestors covering for themselves, I would be interested to see the outcomes of an independent investigation.

Suspect we'll see more of this once the anti protest bill passes. When you try to crush peaceful protest there's only one place that leads.

[SydneyRover]

It's how dictators strengthen their grip on power, stack parliament and the courts with stooges and remove the right to protest gradually strangling off ways for the populace to have a meaningful say.

Added: they also put hurdles in the way of people ligitimate right to vote, ID cards required at polling stations etc.

[Not Now Kato]

Well, at least one Tory has a solution to the events in Bristol....
 
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/tory-candidate-calls-for-bristol-to-be-bombed-following-kill-the-bill-protests-259931/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ukineu&fbclid=IwAR1-SEnBfvVA3yYd4xAe1T2JR377XUi7m5CeHdeSKu18eBAfhSu1B4KJyzk
 
NOT!

[belton rover]

Well, at least one Tory has a solution to the events in Bristol....
 
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/tory-candidate-calls-for-bristol-to-be-bombed-following-kill-the-bill-protests-259931/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ukineu&fbclid=IwAR1-SEnBfvVA3yYd4xAe1T2JR377XUi7m5CeHdeSKu18eBAfhSu1B4KJyzk
 
NOT!

Looks like you’re telling yourself off there, Not.

[Not Now Kato]

It's how dictators strengthen their grip on power, stack parliament and the courts with stooges and remove the right to protest gradually strangling off ways for the populace to have a meaningful say.

Added: they also put hurdles in the way of people ligitimate right to vote, ID cards required at polling stations etc.

Absolutely....
 
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/britains-slide-into-authoritarianism-how-the-tories-are-building-a-one-party-state-259854/

[drfchound]

It's how dictators strengthen their grip on power, stack parliament and the courts with stooges and remove the right to protest gradually strangling off ways for the populace to have a meaningful say.

Added: they also put hurdles in the way of people ligitimate right to vote, ID cards required at polling stations etc.

Absolutely....
 
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/britains-slide-into-authoritarianism-how-the-tories-are-building-a-one-party-state-259854/

Interesting article NNK.
It is a bit like Man City running away with the PL because the opposition isn’t up to much.

[SydneyRover]

+0

[SydneyRover]

The Shewsbury 24 from the BBC ............ this is what happens when governments and the police are allowed to work in secrecy.

''The group of trade unionists, who became known as the Shrewsbury 24, had run a long campaign arguing that they had been persecuted by the establishment to deter workers from taking action to improve their pay and working conditions.

After the ruling, Tomlinson, who had been sentenced to two years in jail for conspiracy to intimidate and affray, said: “Whilst it is only right that these convictions are overturned – it is a sorry day for British justice. The reality is we should never have been standing in the dock.

“We were brought to trial at the apparent behest of the building industry bosses, the Conservative government, and ably supported by the secret state. This was a political trial not just of me, and the Shrewsbury pickets – but was a trial of the trade union movement.”''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/mar/23/shrewsbury-24-court-of-appeal-overturns-1970s-picketing-convictions

[Filo]

The Shewsbury 24 from the BBC ............ this is what happens when governments and the police are allowed to work in secrecy.

''The group of trade unionists, who became known as the Shrewsbury 24, had run a long campaign arguing that they had been persecuted by the establishment to deter workers from taking action to improve their pay and working conditions.

After the ruling, Tomlinson, who had been sentenced to two years in jail for conspiracy to intimidate and affray, said: “Whilst it is only right that these convictions are overturned – it is a sorry day for British justice. The reality is we should never have been standing in the dock.

“We were brought to trial at the apparent behest of the building industry bosses, the Conservative government, and ably supported by the secret state. This was a political trial not just of me, and the Shrewsbury pickets – but was a trial of the trade union movement.”''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/mar/23/shrewsbury-24-court-of-appeal-overturns-1970s-picketing-convictions

One day the truth will come out about events in 1984, especially Ogreave

[SydneyRover]

And it should but the tories and their apologist will not be ones to vote for that.

[MachoMadness]

The Shewsbury 24 from the BBC ............ this is what happens when governments and the police are allowed to work in secrecy.

''The group of trade unionists, who became known as the Shrewsbury 24, had run a long campaign arguing that they had been persecuted by the establishment to deter workers from taking action to improve their pay and working conditions.

After the ruling, Tomlinson, who had been sentenced to two years in jail for conspiracy to intimidate and affray, said: “Whilst it is only right that these convictions are overturned – it is a sorry day for British justice. The reality is we should never have been standing in the dock.

“We were brought to trial at the apparent behest of the building industry bosses, the Conservative government, and ably supported by the secret state. This was a political trial not just of me, and the Shrewsbury pickets – but was a trial of the trade union movement.”''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/mar/23/shrewsbury-24-court-of-appeal-overturns-1970s-picketing-convictions

One day the truth will come out about events in 1984, especially Ogreave

The lessons of Orgreave still haven't been learned. Reports coming out of Bristol today stating that, in fact, no police officers suffered serious injuries, much less any broken bones or a collapsed lung as reported, it's worth revisiting this from 2008. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/dec/15/kingsnorth-climate-change-environment-police

Police brutalise a peaceful protest again, but put out a story that 70 officers were injured in the press. Then, you quietly admit that none of those occurred in contact with the protestors, and you're counting insect bites and headaches as "injuries". It's part of a pattern that'll be familiar to anyone who remembers Orgreave. Provoke and antagonise your targets until they have to fight back, then put out stories to paint the protestors as a violent mob who were looking for trouble. Say they struck first, lie about the force you used, and lie about how many police were hurt in return. All with the help of the media. The truth is, if they look at Orgreave, they'll have to look at dozens of other incidents over the years and it'll get expensive for them.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I do wonder whether we will ever see the truth about Orgreave released. The CPS decided not to press charges, not because there was no case (anyone who spends 30 seconds on the matter knows there was a conspiracy to pervert justice) but because too much time had passed.

I suspect we will never know the extent to which that conspiracy was organised by the very upper echelons of the police, and how much they were guided by the Govt.

[SydneyRover]

''There Is No Absolute Doctrine Of Separation Of Powers In The UK Constitution. Overlaps Exist Both In Terms Of The Functions Of The Organs Of State And The Personnel Operating Within Them. The UK Relies On A System Of Checks And Balances To Prevent Against Abuses Of Power. Examine How The Checks And Balances Work To Prevent Against Potential Abuses Of Power And Discuss The Extent To Which The Current Administration Has Sought To Strengthen These Checks And Balances In Recent Years''

Patel giving instructions to police ........... we're on the way to a police state.

https://www.lawteacher.net/free-law-essays/family-law/separation-of-powers-in-the-uk.php#:~:text=The%20UK%20Relies%20On%20A,Prevent%20Against%20Abuses%20Of%20Power.&text=Britain's%20concept%20of%20separation%20of,should%20exercise%20their%20powers%20accordingly.

[wilts rover]

Police attacking a journalist covering the protests in Bristol last night

https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/1375719301789978630

[wilts rover]

Officer punches woman in face

https://twitter.com/barneyfarmer/status/1375710886900404224

[wilts rover]

Person lying on floor beaten with baton

https://twitter.com/arranseaton/status/1375586025658011648

[SydneyRover]

nothing out of the ordinary in a police state

[ravenrover]

All one sided heh?

[MachoMadness]

Seems like it was one sided until the protestors started fighting back, yes. Only one side is responsible for this escalating into what it has.