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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: PDX_Rover on April 11, 2021, 07:05:08 am
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
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What about 20 or so others are they just standing around doing nowt !!
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Well, I was just wondering, as SM was very specific.
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Maybe its one of DM permanent signings whos upset now hes gone.
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That’s fine but how can he unload it on AB if he is annoyed with DM
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Maybe its one of DM permanent signings whos upset now hes gone.
Well if it is the poor sensative soul needs reminding who pays his wages!
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That’s fine but how can he unload it on AB if he is annoyed with DM
Just by causing general unrest within the squad.I maybe totally wrong with this.
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I would be shocked if it were Halliday.
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I would be shocked if it were Halliday.
So would i,maybe its someone who thinks he is to good for us.
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
could someone point me in the direction of this comment by SM please?
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If that is the case surely the club would go down the disciplinary route with hr just like any other company???
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
could someone point me in the direction of this comment by SM please?
I think that the initial post has been deleted.
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
could someone point me in the direction of this comment by SM please?
I think that the initial post has been deleted.
aahhh, ok cheers
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No it hasn’t. I just bumped the thread back up. “If we lose today.”
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You can see it quoted in this post
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=280650.msg1045417#msg1045417
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That's not necessarily just one player though.
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I don't understand the claims of this, they all sound gutted by the form if you listen to Tom Andersons interview, but also they do not seem to know what has caused it, or how to turn it around.
I see a lot of people blaming the loan players for lack of spirit, yet I see Smith busting his gut to do a job, and often keeps the team within games.
Richards gets loads of stick, but I think he is a player that looks outstanding when times are good, and also the opposite at times like this- he is a luxury player, that will never really get back and tackle - but you have to accept that, he will not change.
Balcombe, again he was furious with the defence, and has done little wrong for me, I imagine knocking Tom out, probably dinted his confidence, but he was just doing his job. Quality player.
Sims, what a player he was prior to the injury, and given game time he will undoubtedly return to that level.
Jules - again he was really good prior to getting injured - but I doubt we will see him again now.
Robertson - I think he has struggled to make an impact, he did have one good game, potentially not enough game time.
Simeos - As above, he may go on to have a good career, but doesn't seem good enough at the moment.
That leaves our contracted players - they simply haven't been good enough and seem to be suggesting the loan players are to blame. I think that's poor and too easy to do, it is a collective mess, and the rot had set in well before Andy Butler took over - This is DM making, and unfortunately AB is going to take the stick for it.
He hasn't been helped by either himself or the club, he needs a coach/assistant manager, and that may well be his undoing. Im gutted for him, a nice guy who is from the town, understands the club and will have been more desperate than any other to make this work.
Football is a funny business, and as fans you never really know what's going on, just nod, winks and whispers. I think this will be the end of this team, and a full rebuild will happen, and on reflection we probably need it.
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
My money's on Ed Williams.
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Coppinger ! He's always struck me as a trouble maker :) :) :coat:
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
My money's on Ed Williams.
Does seem strange why he’s never involved in the squad
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... what is going on within the camp. SM alluded to the fact that one player, who would soon be gone, was causing problems.
I highly doubt it’s one of the loanees. They have no reason to cause trouble, as it would adversely impact their career you’d think.
So presumably it’s one of the players who will be out of contract. You’d assume that if this individual was causing problems, enough that SM knows and has said so on here, he is not being selected for the squad. We know Tayls is legit injured, which only leaves Brad Halliday. Haven’t heard much about his injury... apparently a back ache he reported the morning of the Bristol Rovers game...
Could Weasley be Hogwarts’ antagonist?
My money's on Ed Williams.
Does seem strange why he’s never involved in the squad
Isn't that just because he isn't good enough? Odd that we signed him on a two year deal.
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I doubt it’s Williams. Anyway, he’s on a two year deal.
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I doubt it’s Williams. Anyway, he’s on a two year deal.
I was kidding when I said Williams. At the end of the day I doubt we'll find out.
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I doubt it’s Williams. Anyway, he’s on a two year deal.
I was kidding when I said Williams. At the end of the day I doubt we'll find out.
True. Maybe time will tell though.
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Can’t see it being Williams with him being on a 2 year deal and also the fact that he’s come up from non league u wouldn’t have thought he’d want that reputation and Halliday doesn’t seem like the type of lad that would do that and he’s one of the only ones who try in games and can maybe say that he gave close to 100%
My guess would be simoes with him coming in on loan and never being part of the matchday squad on many occasions and wasn’t one of the reasons Barnsley wanted him out on loan because of his attitude?
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It's pointless playing these guessing games. SM's post implied perhaps several players as some sort of clique were to blame, which wouldn't be one individual anyway and it may be a case of just divided factions within the squad, which we've seen before in seasons of struggle.
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If there is a clique then it is disappointing... this is, and should be, a collective team.
What I can't understand (or accept) is how they would not want to put in their best efforts, week in and week out. They are in a privileged position and are earning good money (relatively speaking) so they should be doing their utmost to contribute to the combined team effort. I'm guessing that the stats will reflect if anyone is under performing, and if that is the case, I (personally) would have no problem with one of the youngsters being given game time to help them develop.
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It seems to me we are witnessing the revised and re released version of "The Experiment" Is history repeating itself?
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Bostock?
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Pretty obvious there's only one way to get to the bottom of this.
It's a job for Saunders P.I.
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Pretty obvious there's only one way to get to the bottom of this.
It's a job for Saunders P.I.
I think he’s still tied up with the South Coast nightclub case
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Bostock?
14 different clubs at 29 years old ???
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Bostock?
14 different clubs at 29 years old ???
Context, half of those were when Spurs sent him on loan as a kid.
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Bostock?
He has tweeted several times after games things that a unhappy player wouldn't put so i doubt its him, plus with his youtube channel showing us his journey to signing for us etc i just cant see it.
Tough result today. Togetherness is key Key
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Not Bostock. I see Ron is still injured with no real prognosis other than back pain. An epidural steroid injection would help.
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Not Bostock. I see Ron is still injured with no real prognosis other than back pain. An epidural steroid injection would help.
could be a good shout. any of the loanees could be causing trouble, as they won't necessarily care where we finish the season, and they might just be pissed off with having to get up for training at a normal time, instead of driving in mid-morning... :whistle:
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My money would be on one of the loan players. Possibly Taylor Richards.
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“Causing trouble”. It’s a load of b*llocks. If it was one of the loanees they would be sent back. There’s just not a cohesive environment, that’s the issue. That’s the fault of the previous manager and the board more than the players. They are just a product of it all.
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Thing is, we can't just "send back" the loanees. You can't cancel a loan deal between transfer windows, so we'd be stuck paying wages of a player who'd f**ked off back to the parent club.
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Out of all the players in the squad the one that makes sense would be simoes as I’ve said before due to him coming in, very rarely playing and having attitude problems at Barnsley but I can imagine there is possibly more than just him
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I'm not sure Simoes had attitude problems at Barnsley, more an application of the tactics issue. I'm certain he hasn't been rocking the boat.
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“Causing trouble”. It’s a load of b*llocks. If it was one of the loanees they would be sent back. There’s just not a cohesive environment, that’s the issue. That’s the fault of the previous manager and the board more than the players. They are just a product of it all.
cmon Gaz you're not naive to think players don't cause that type of trouble
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I think it is lazy to blame the loanees, and easy to do by contracted players ( who I feel have been worse)- there never looks to be a rift between any of them on the pitch, which during the experiment, it was plainly obvious prior to kick off that some didnt get on. They all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet, but also sound like they have no idea why or how to change it.
Richards gets loads of stick, for his laziness, but he was like that when we were on a great run - like it or not, he is the best player in the team - he is a luxury player though.
Obviously there may be issues during training, turning up late and not putting the effort in, which will obviously annoy, I've not heard that though. Something I did hear about Wilks - I think he was bombed form Barnsley for the same attitude.
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Out of all the players in the squad the one that makes sense would be simoes as I’ve said before due to him coming in, very rarely playing and having attitude problems at Barnsley but I can imagine there is possibly more than just him
Simoes is not a key player nor is he likely to be an influential figure in the dressing room. Troublemakers, if they exist, causing division in the squad will only ever be more important figures within the team. Senior players or regulars, not fringe loanees who are young.
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Out of all the players in the squad the one that makes sense would be simoes as I’ve said before due to him coming in, very rarely playing and having attitude problems at Barnsley but I can imagine there is possibly more than just him
Simoes is not a key player nor is he likely to be an influential figure in the dressing room. Troublemakers, if they exist, causing division in the squad will only ever be more important figures within the team. Senior players or regulars, not fringe loanees who are young.
surely he wouldn’t have come if he knew he wasn’t going to play much, would’ve thought he would’ve gone somewhere to get game time. And even if he is only a fringe player makes u think why isn’t he getting a look in after the last few results and performances.
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I think it is simply that other players are better than him, and he can’t be looking any better in training to be afforded a chance
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Send all the loanees home and play the the youth players for the last 7 games? We are not going to win again this season anyway. There is nothing lose as we are getting gubbed by average teams.
Sacking Butler will do little. There is something rotten at the club from top to bottom. I fear for the clubs future at the moment and I think the COVID pandemic is beginning to have an effect on the club, financially and otherwise. There are some dark times ahead for DRFC I’m afraid. We may just escape relegation this season but not next with the current status quo.
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Sorry but there is no way we should be relegated from league 1. Our average gate is double that of Burton, Wimbledon, Rochdale, Shrewsbury, etc.
Why should be expect to be relegated?
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Sorry but there is no way we should be relegated from league 1. Our average gate is double that of Burton, Wimbledon, Rochdale, Shrewsbury, etc.
Why should be expect to be relegated?
Jesus, when did we become Sheffield Wednesday?
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Well, if you mean a spineless club from South Yorkshire and getting hammered every week, that will be playing in League One next season...then, well, yes.