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Quote from: Retdon1 on June 10, 2019, 03:52:26 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 10, 2019, 03:14:10 pmOh dear oh dear every summer the same. The doom merchants are out. Panic. Panic. Panic.Do some of you think that by 3rd August we won’t have brought in anther 5 players minimum + Danny Andrew.Last season DF left us without notice at the end of May & McCann didn’t take over until July. We are so much in a better place than this time last year and if my memory serves me correctly GM signed and loaned some pretty decent players with little time to spare & we had a pretty good season didn’t we.Or did I dream it?This, “we haven’t signed anybody” nonsense is looking extremely stupid imo and is getting very boring.I think we need a few more than 5+Andrew. That would only give us 17 senior players which isn’t even enough to fill a bench. And that’s before the usual injuries and suspensions. I know Mccan has said he wants a smaller squad but you would think we would be looking at a 20/21 man squad minimum before using youth team players to make the numbers up. That means another 9/10 signings... very busy summer aheadI think I have read that GM wants to work with a smaller squad this season so having 20/21 senior players is very unlikely.I have also seen some of our posters advocating that we look to utilise some of the reserve and youth team players in the first team squad.
Quote from: Campsall rover on June 10, 2019, 03:14:10 pmOh dear oh dear every summer the same. The doom merchants are out. Panic. Panic. Panic.Do some of you think that by 3rd August we won’t have brought in anther 5 players minimum + Danny Andrew.Last season DF left us without notice at the end of May & McCann didn’t take over until July. We are so much in a better place than this time last year and if my memory serves me correctly GM signed and loaned some pretty decent players with little time to spare & we had a pretty good season didn’t we.Or did I dream it?This, “we haven’t signed anybody” nonsense is looking extremely stupid imo and is getting very boring.I think we need a few more than 5+Andrew. That would only give us 17 senior players which isn’t even enough to fill a bench. And that’s before the usual injuries and suspensions. I know Mccan has said he wants a smaller squad but you would think we would be looking at a 20/21 man squad minimum before using youth team players to make the numbers up. That means another 9/10 signings... very busy summer ahead
Oh dear oh dear every summer the same. The doom merchants are out. Panic. Panic. Panic.Do some of you think that by 3rd August we won’t have brought in anther 5 players minimum + Danny Andrew.Last season DF left us without notice at the end of May & McCann didn’t take over until July. We are so much in a better place than this time last year and if my memory serves me correctly GM signed and loaned some pretty decent players with little time to spare & we had a pretty good season didn’t we.Or did I dream it?This, “we haven’t signed anybody” nonsense is looking extremely stupid imo and is getting very boring.
Quote from: Campsall rover on June 10, 2019, 03:47:56 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on June 10, 2019, 03:26:34 pmLet me start by saying I've every confidence in GM and the board to get it right this season; but we're being put through the wringer again in terms of time.Pre-season training will probably start 3 weeks today. We've lost 6 of the starters in the Charlton game, and Andrew is yet to sign. We've made one signing, a league 2 player, and have lost out on a potential marquee signing.So let's cut a bit of slack to those of a slightly nervous disposition.We lost out on a marquee signing ! Who says? Rotherham fans were not extatic about him last season.Not consistent by all accounts.We don’t need him. We will get someone else won’t we. What’s the problem. Don’t see one.You've not been careful with your words there Campsall, because in slagging off Newell's potential, you're casting doubts about GM's judgement in wanting him in the first place, and he definitely did, because he's been quoted today as being "very disappointed".
Quote from: scawsby steve on June 10, 2019, 03:26:34 pmLet me start by saying I've every confidence in GM and the board to get it right this season; but we're being put through the wringer again in terms of time.Pre-season training will probably start 3 weeks today. We've lost 6 of the starters in the Charlton game, and Andrew is yet to sign. We've made one signing, a league 2 player, and have lost out on a potential marquee signing.So let's cut a bit of slack to those of a slightly nervous disposition.We lost out on a marquee signing ! Who says? Rotherham fans were not extatic about him last season.Not consistent by all accounts.We don’t need him. We will get someone else won’t we. What’s the problem. Don’t see one.
Let me start by saying I've every confidence in GM and the board to get it right this season; but we're being put through the wringer again in terms of time.Pre-season training will probably start 3 weeks today. We've lost 6 of the starters in the Charlton game, and Andrew is yet to sign. We've made one signing, a league 2 player, and have lost out on a potential marquee signing.So let's cut a bit of slack to those of a slightly nervous disposition.
Quote from: scawsby steve on June 10, 2019, 04:02:36 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 10, 2019, 03:47:56 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on June 10, 2019, 03:26:34 pmLet me start by saying I've every confidence in GM and the board to get it right this season; but we're being put through the wringer again in terms of time.Pre-season training will probably start 3 weeks today. We've lost 6 of the starters in the Charlton game, and Andrew is yet to sign. We've made one signing, a league 2 player, and have lost out on a potential marquee signing.So let's cut a bit of slack to those of a slightly nervous disposition.We lost out on a marquee signing ! Who says? Rotherham fans were not extatic about him last season.Not consistent by all accounts.We don’t need him. We will get someone else won’t we. What’s the problem. Don’t see one.You've not been careful with your words there Campsall, because in slagging off Newell's potential, you're casting doubts about GM's judgement in wanting him in the first place, and he definitely did, because he's been quoted today as being "very disappointed".Forgive me if I’ve missed something but where has he been quoted as saying he’s “very disappointed?” I follow him on twitter and got the impression he’s on holiday with his family. That’s not to say I’m assuming he’s not disappointed, but I’ve not seen the interview where he explains the circumstances. Everything I have seen from McCann suggests he is focussed only on players that want to play for this club and is ruthless where that’s not the case. Newell obviously wants to play for Hibs.
But this time last year we probably wanted all those players you mention replacing because they weren't very good. And did we sign Crawford this time last year i though GM only became our manager towards the end of June (might be wrong but felt like it took longer to sort)
Quote from: Jonathan on June 10, 2019, 06:05:49 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on June 10, 2019, 04:02:36 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 10, 2019, 03:47:56 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on June 10, 2019, 03:26:34 pmLet me start by saying I've every confidence in GM and the board to get it right this season; but we're being put through the wringer again in terms of time.Pre-season training will probably start 3 weeks today. We've lost 6 of the starters in the Charlton game, and Andrew is yet to sign. We've made one signing, a league 2 player, and have lost out on a potential marquee signing.So let's cut a bit of slack to those of a slightly nervous disposition.We lost out on a marquee signing ! Who says? Rotherham fans were not extatic about him last season.Not consistent by all accounts.We don’t need him. We will get someone else won’t we. What’s the problem. Don’t see one.You've not been careful with your words there Campsall, because in slagging off Newell's potential, you're casting doubts about GM's judgement in wanting him in the first place, and he definitely did, because he's been quoted today as being "very disappointed".Forgive me if I’ve missed something but where has he been quoted as saying he’s “very disappointed?” I follow him on twitter and got the impression he’s on holiday with his family. That’s not to say I’m assuming he’s not disappointed, but I’ve not seen the interview where he explains the circumstances. Everything I have seen from McCann suggests he is focussed only on players that want to play for this club and is ruthless where that’s not the case. Newell obviously wants to play for Hibs.Sorry Jonathan, my mistake; I thought I'd read it somewhere, then I realised I'd seen it in a post by Retdon 1, who claimed someone at the club told him as such; however, without knowing the source, I accept it's unreliable.I do however believe the DFP over the last few weeks, that we were the frontrunners for Newell's signature.
That theory is ok if we have the standard of back-up in the u23 and youth team, but we havn't.5 more signings + 3 good quality loans would have us about where we were last season and if it's less than that, I'm not sure how the manager can improve on last season's position. We havn't got to lose sight of what McCann wants this season, and he was disappointed with 6th last season! And he has promised us supporters that we will be stronger this season, so let's be patient and see what transpires.
Quote from: sedwardsdrfc on June 10, 2019, 06:40:19 pmBut this time last year we probably wanted all those players you mention replacing because they weren't very good. And did we sign Crawford this time last year i though GM only became our manager towards the end of June (might be wrong but felt like it took longer to sort) You wanted Rowe, Butler and mason replacing because they aren’t very good?Crawford deal was all but done but McCann has the option to pull out but he wanted him also
Considering smaller squads cost less to run it does has its down side if bookings pile up or key players get injured . Last season saw a few loans coming and it WILL be the same again . We are loosing our targets on the pretext of not being held to ransom .
He has earned that trust in the past year I'd say, with far more hits than misses in the transfer market.
It is interesting that people want players in early, quite often its later signings that have worked out well in the past.If we dont have players in at the end of July then I'll be worried.
I think this season's outgoings means that we are going to have a fair turn-over of players and it would be far from ideal if they all land at the club with pre season well underway. With a season of much greater expectation, as expected by the manager, we can't be risking players 'getting to know one another' after 5 or 6 competitive games have drifted by - we'd already be playing catch-up!Strategically, the manager will want his permanents in asap and definately before the start of pre-season, with possibly the loan players to join after their respective pre-season's with their own clubs. At least, that is how I perceive things would happen in an ideal world. Of course, we are drfc and things don't always quite go to plan, so the manager will do his best under whatever circumstances are thrown his way.
QuoteHe has earned that trust in the past year I'd say, with far more hits than misses in the transfer market.Slight exaggeration there, Alias. Check out the list of McCann's signings and, purely on numbers, I think you'll be surprised. And don't count Crawford, as DF almost had him signed before he resigned. Based on impact alone, 3 out of his 6 loan signings were mainstays, but for 2 of them it proved a bridge too far, and the other not good enough.