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Quote from: hoolahoop on September 18, 2018, 08:03:57 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 18, 2018, 07:45:12 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 17, 2018, 10:16:40 amQuote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!You know we're still part of NATO xSproty has a weird vision of what it means to leave the EU . Fact is we work very closely and on occasions inter- changeable with them in many flash points/ disasters around the globe. Yes we are so close that we have pulled all of our Armour out of Germany, that leaves the 60,000 stroking German Army a bit vulnerable, considering Putin has just put 300,000 troops into the field.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 18, 2018, 07:45:12 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 17, 2018, 10:16:40 amQuote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!You know we're still part of NATO xSproty has a weird vision of what it means to leave the EU . Fact is we work very closely and on occasions inter- changeable with them in many flash points/ disasters around the globe.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 17, 2018, 10:16:40 amQuote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!You know we're still part of NATO x
Quote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!
How does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 18, 2018, 08:17:11 pmQuote from: hoolahoop on September 18, 2018, 08:03:57 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 18, 2018, 07:45:12 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 17, 2018, 10:16:40 amQuote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!You know we're still part of NATO xSproty has a weird vision of what it means to leave the EU . Fact is we work very closely and on occasions inter- changeable with them in many flash points/ disasters around the globe. Yes we are so close that we have pulled all of our Armour out of Germany, that leaves the 60,000 stroking German Army a bit vulnerable, considering Putin has just put 300,000 troops into the field.186, 431 Troops432 - combat tanks4620- armoured fighting vehiclesDo you just pluck figures out of the air in the hope that you won't get caught out ?Just for the record how many troops can we put in the field ?Incidentally I was originally referring to the relationship between France and ourselves.
Quote from: hoolahoop on September 18, 2018, 09:30:03 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 18, 2018, 08:17:11 pmQuote from: hoolahoop on September 18, 2018, 08:03:57 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 18, 2018, 07:45:12 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 17, 2018, 10:16:40 amQuote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!You know we're still part of NATO xSproty has a weird vision of what it means to leave the EU . Fact is we work very closely and on occasions inter- changeable with them in many flash points/ disasters around the globe. Yes we are so close that we have pulled all of our Armour out of Germany, that leaves the 60,000 stroking German Army a bit vulnerable, considering Putin has just put 300,000 troops into the field.186, 431 Troops432 - combat tanks4620- armoured fighting vehiclesDo you just pluck figures out of the air in the hope that you won't get caught out ?Just for the record how many troops can we put in the field ?Incidentally I was originally referring to the relationship between France and ourselves. Quote from: hoolahoop on September 18, 2018, 09:30:03 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 18, 2018, 08:17:11 pmQuote from: hoolahoop on September 18, 2018, 08:03:57 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 18, 2018, 07:45:12 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 17, 2018, 10:16:40 amQuote from: hoolahoop on September 17, 2018, 01:17:16 amHow does this fit in with you ridiculous and frankly childish opinion on the safety of our neighbours ? https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-commit-to-new-defence-cooperation&ved=2ahUKEwj0w6Si4MDdAhWqC8AKHQTHCS0QFjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wwoEmYDXeCeLmTuArXhqDThere are others and seeing as though we are still a part of the European continent rather than North America - THEIR safety is OURS . Do you think we patrol the whole of the North Sea as well as the Channel without help from our European allies ? We all ensure each others safety ! You watch too many WW11 films with a heavy British slant to them 3 chinooks and 100 troops doesn't make the entente Cordiale! As for Estonia we signal our intention to pull out and leave em to it!You know we're still part of NATO xSproty has a weird vision of what it means to leave the EU . Fact is we work very closely and on occasions inter- changeable with them in many flash points/ disasters around the globe. Yes we are so close that we have pulled all of our Armour out of Germany, that leaves the 60,000 stroking German Army a bit vulnerable, considering Putin has just put 300,000 troops into the field.186, 431 Troops432 - combat tanks4620- armoured fighting vehiclesDo you just pluck figures out of the air in the hope that you won't get caught out ?Just for the record how many troops can we put in the field ?Incidentally I was originally referring to the relationship between France and ourselves. No I merely read the full Wikipedia Article you have just quoted from! in March 2018 there were 61,500 German Soldiers on active service!
Oh quelle surprise , NOT ! Hello Glynn nice to see the 'Menagerie of four ' all out in Force. I would say 61,500 the rest of the figure is the service corps, which we out sourced to private companies, such as Sodexo, Capita and SercoI'm counting Bayonet Strength the rest are not classed as regular front line infantry.
Get Lynn Wigley and I have something in common! We are both puzzled as to how an Army of 180,000 can only have 60,000 front line troops.I have done some digging and the German army. Is on its Arse!2 Armoured divisions and an Airbourne division allegedly.Well according to the SPIEGEL Magazine and the Economist, the German army has only 95 Leo 2 Tanks in operational order out of 244, the rest have been stripped for parts. That not enough for a Division. Only 7 out of 67 Ch 53 Transport Helicopters operational,12 out of 50 Tiger Helicopters operational,39 out of 128 Typhoon Fighters operational,all of its Tornados grounded due to Bolts flying off and no lights in Cockpit. Germany's entire submarine fleet of 6 Subs Not Sea worthy!A German Officer also managed to claim Benefits and live a double life.In 2014 A German Battalion went to Norway on excercise, none of their Boxer AFVs had any guns, the German soldiers painted wooden broom handles black and stuck em on to make it look like the vehicles had weapons.It's a far cry from 1990 when the Bundewher was half a Million strong and had 5,000 AFVs.It' makes you wonder what sort of a state the French and others are In?If Vladimir turned his 300k troops West they would be in Rotterdam in 5 days!Oh and Hoola I doubt the German army has any bayonets to put onto its Broom handles.
Because you originally said 61,500 on active service, but I was getting mixed up. I thought 'active service' just meant the soldiers actually deployed and didn't count those not deployed so I thought that meant there were more soldiers than the number you stated. My mistake.
Meanwhile, back to Brexit. Wonderful statement of where we are going from May today. We're either going to have her deal which will mean a lot of damage to the UK economy. Or we're going to have no deal, which will mean a huge amount of damage to the UK economy. Good to see that we've got a clear choice now.
Well, Tusk has now said Chequers won't fly. I'm struggling to see how May can stay in the job much longer.
I agree with you Glyn that a GE in itself won't solve anything. I think it is likely because I can hardly see how the Government can carry on, even under a different leader, if the deal they offer to Parliament (including No Deal) is rejected.However, given that the most likely outcome of a GE would be a minority Labour Government rather a minority Conservative one, I think it makes the prospect of a second referendum much more likely.
Who needs an army? The next world war will not be fought in the trenches.
Quote from: nightporter on September 20, 2018, 09:14:04 amWho needs an army? The next world war will not be fought in the trenches.The only " standing army " will be the hackers but Sproty still lives in the past . I'm not quite sure he's even aware that the Berlin wall has come down yet !
Quote from: hoolahoop on September 20, 2018, 06:19:10 pmQuote from: nightporter on September 20, 2018, 09:14:04 amWho needs an army? The next world war will not be fought in the trenches.The only " standing army " will be the hackers but Sproty still lives in the past . I'm not quite sure he's even aware that the Berlin wall has come down yet !Sorry chum to win a war you need to occupy Territoy and for that you need Infantry.