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I know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. And also Germany, when insisting we pay our divorce bill should remeber that they never fully repaid their war debts, especially to Greece, who they screwed over fairly recently as well
It's a right f**king mess. What's killing the talks is the fact that the Govt's aim is not sorting out the talks. Its priority is avoiding dealing with those three points because the choice is between solutions that don't work and solutions that the Tory party won't accept. So the real priority is prevaricating and stopping the Tory party from descending into civil war. Meantime, we charging at full speed towards a No Agreement Brexit. Then you'll see what a disaster you've voted for.
Quote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. And also Germany, when insisting we pay our divorce bill should remeber that they never fully repaid their war debts, especially to Greece, who they screwed over fairly recently as wellJesus the " debt of gratitude " argument - Filo is really the best argument you can come up with . Pathetic man, I suppose the Poles could make that same argument regarding their post Brexit vilification using the ' is that all the thanks we get for our help in winning the battle of Britain and kick-starting your industry during and after WW2 ' argument ? At least try not to sound so xenophobic !!You and wilts sound like two spoilt brats that have been firmly told they can't have those sweets but still keep screaming in the hope that the parent changes it's mind. The only obstruction I can see is that coming from the British team, who can't have their cake and eat it. Stop reading the alt Right press ffs it's stopping you from seeing the truth in this whole sad affair.Incidentally we did NOT lose sovereignty otherwise you would never had this ridiculous vote in the first place . I understand that this wasn't brought up by you in the thread but seems to be consistently raised by Brexiters on these threads
Quote from: hoolahoop on October 08, 2017, 02:20:36 amQuote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. And also Germany, when insisting we pay our divorce bill should remeber that they never fully repaid their war debts, especially to Greece, who they screwed over fairly recently as wellJesus the " debt of gratitude " argument - Filo is really the best argument you can come up with . Pathetic man, I suppose the Poles could make that same argument regarding their post Brexit vilification using the ' is that all the thanks we get for our help in winning the battle of Britain and kick-starting your industry during and after WW2 ' argument ? At least try not to sound so xenophobic !!You and wilts sound like two spoilt brats that have been firmly told they can't have those sweets but still keep screaming in the hope that the parent changes it's mind. The only obstruction I can see is that coming from the British team, who can't have their cake and eat it. Stop reading the alt Right press ffs it's stopping you from seeing the truth in this whole sad affair.Incidentally we did NOT lose sovereignty otherwise you would never had this ridiculous vote in the first place . I understand that this wasn't brought up by you in the thread but seems to be consistently raised by Brexiters on these threads Labeling someone pathetic for not agreeing with your views rather shows who the pathetic one is
I know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to.
Quote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. Let's not forget, De Gaulle didn't want Britain to joined the EEC so why would they show us any gratitude?
Quote from: glosterred on October 08, 2017, 09:13:57 amQuote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. Let's not forget, De Gaulle didn't want Britain to joined the EEC so why would they show us any gratitude?Which reinforces my point, the French were quick to forget what the UK sacrificed for their freedom
Quote from: Filo on October 08, 2017, 09:25:38 amQuote from: glosterred on October 08, 2017, 09:13:57 amQuote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. Let's not forget, De Gaulle didn't want Britain to joined the EEC so why would they show us any gratitude?Which reinforces my point, the French were quick to forget what the UK sacrificed for their freedomAlmost as quickly as forgetting what the Free French Forces and Free French Navy sacrificed fighting on the British side all over the world, eh?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 08, 2017, 11:51:24 amQuote from: Filo on October 08, 2017, 09:25:38 amQuote from: glosterred on October 08, 2017, 09:13:57 amQuote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. Let's not forget, De Gaulle didn't want Britain to joined the EEC so why would they show us any gratitude?Which reinforces my point, the French were quick to forget what the UK sacrificed for their freedomAlmost as quickly as forgetting what the Free French Forces and Free French Navy sacrificed fighting on the British side all over the world, eh?Without the UK the free french would n't have been free very long
Filo mate, if your argument for Brexit boils down to "two world wars and one world cup" then you should probably just pack in.
Quote from: Filo on October 08, 2017, 08:01:46 amQuote from: hoolahoop on October 08, 2017, 02:20:36 amQuote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. And also Germany, when insisting we pay our divorce bill should remeber that they never fully repaid their war debts, especially to Greece, who they screwed over fairly recently as wellJesus the " debt of gratitude " argument - Filo is really the best argument you can come up with . Pathetic man, I suppose the Poles could make that same argument regarding their post Brexit vilification using the ' is that all the thanks we get for our help in winning the battle of Britain and kick-starting your industry during and after WW2 ' argument ? At least try not to sound so xenophobic !!You and wilts sound like two spoilt brats that have been firmly told they can't have those sweets but still keep screaming in the hope that the parent changes it's mind. The only obstruction I can see is that coming from the British team, who can't have their cake and eat it. Stop reading the alt Right press ffs it's stopping you from seeing the truth in this whole sad affair.Incidentally we did NOT lose sovereignty otherwise you would never had this ridiculous vote in the first place . I understand that this wasn't brought up by you in the thread but seems to be consistently raised by Brexiters on these threads Labeling someone pathetic for not agreeing with your views rather shows who the pathetic one isDon't be ridiculous man , I'm calling you pathetic not because you disagree with my views or me with yours but using the WW11 argument constantly. I have noto asserted that we that the French should show any gratitude. What has the bloody WW2 got to do with this ? Every nation died winning that war , most of all the Russians and it was 80 years ago . It's that very fact that matters and my only view on it bearing in mind these are facts is you using them to justify your argument somehow- they are not relevant to the question in hand.
Quote from: hoolahoop on October 11, 2017, 02:09:09 amQuote from: Filo on October 08, 2017, 08:01:46 amQuote from: hoolahoop on October 08, 2017, 02:20:36 amQuote from: Filo on October 07, 2017, 12:24:54 pmI know it's harping back a lot of years, but I think France forgets the debt of gratitude it owes to the UK in liberating them from a Country they now cosy up to. And also Germany, when insisting we pay our divorce bill should remeber that they never fully repaid their war debts, especially to Greece, who they screwed over fairly recently as wellJesus the " debt of gratitude " argument - Filo is really the best argument you can come up with . Pathetic man, I suppose the Poles could make that same argument regarding their post Brexit vilification using the ' is that all the thanks we get for our help in winning the battle of Britain and kick-starting your industry during and after WW2 ' argument ? At least try not to sound so xenophobic !!You and wilts sound like two spoilt brats that have been firmly told they can't have those sweets but still keep screaming in the hope that the parent changes it's mind. The only obstruction I can see is that coming from the British team, who can't have their cake and eat it. Stop reading the alt Right press ffs it's stopping you from seeing the truth in this whole sad affair.Incidentally we did NOT lose sovereignty otherwise you would never had this ridiculous vote in the first place . I understand that this wasn't brought up by you in the thread but seems to be consistently raised by Brexiters on these threads Labeling someone pathetic for not agreeing with your views rather shows who the pathetic one isDon't be ridiculous man , I'm calling you pathetic not because you disagree with my views or me with yours but using the WW11 argument constantly. I have noto asserted that we that the French should show any gratitude. What has the bloody WW2 got to do with this ? Every nation died winning that war , most of all the Russians and it was 80 years ago . It's that very fact that matters and my only view on it bearing in mind these are facts is you using them to justify your argument somehow- they are not relevant to the question in hand. If that were the case you would have typed pathetic argument, not pathetic man