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Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 08, 2021, 12:37:34 pmWhat's this "legally exempt from testing" thing then?None of your business but suffice it to say that i'll be enforcing my legal rights as a person with protected characteristics as much as this pathetic dictatorship of a Government are enforcing all this nonsense against my will. That includes cinemas, football clubs, theatres, shops anywhere. Refuse me entry and they will be made accountable.
What's this "legally exempt from testing" thing then?
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on December 08, 2021, 12:41:25 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 08, 2021, 12:37:34 pmWhat's this "legally exempt from testing" thing then?None of your business but suffice it to say that i'll be enforcing my legal rights as a person with protected characteristics as much as this pathetic dictatorship of a Government are enforcing all this nonsense against my will. That includes cinemas, football clubs, theatres, shops anywhere. Refuse me entry and they will be made accountable. ‘And that viewers, concludes CDH’s report from Planet Zog. You can hear more from our roving reporter from just about every post on the CDH Forum formerly known as the VSC Forum’.
Sounds like an adult male version of Verruca Salt.
Some people think football grounds are public spaces. They are not. Clubs can refuse entry for many many things, even before covid. Refusal to take proof of a lateral flow will be one.(again) If those conditions are applied. You can have gold plated balls, it won’t matter. As I’ve told a member of my family who is un vaccinated. The net is closing in. Your life will be affected more and more if you continue to choose not to get vaccinated. But don’t take my word for it .
It’s gives me no joy to point out that being jabbed does not stop you from getting covid, or indeed does not stop you from transmitting it. It just lessens the chance of you getting really poorly and or being hospitalised.I am jabbed and boosted. If I had covid, which is perfectly feasible, would you let me in your house?
Lots of cases in young kids. 7 in my daughter's section at school right now. Natural immunity must be strong though as mine hasn't picked it up again.Tests aren't always for symptomatic remember, all the kids at school were told to have a pcr test regardless before returning on Monday.
ALI think the answer to your last point is that we are, most of us, better than Tory MPs. Most of us have done the right thing throughout the pandemic because it is the right thing. Most of us have been careful and sacrificed time with loved ones becasue it was for the greater good.Most of us haven't f**ked married colleagues or thrown office parties while insisting that everyone else behaves themselves and stays apart.If you now take your lead from Tory MPs flouting the rules, you're as bad as they are. Most of us are better than that.
Don’t shoot the messenger here, but legal experts on covid legislation are suggesting that there is a loophole in the 1984 legislation that was used as the basis for imposing the tier systems, which means that the City of Westminster Council would have had to agree that Downing Street fell under the jurisdiction of this legislation. Don’t ask me about the detail, because I am not au fait with it.Westminster city council have so far refused to comment .So there may be a cop out for all this.Damage done though.
This is the major problem now for the country after what Johnson is currently doing.How can anyone ask Axholme or CDH or anyone else to follow any rules or guidelines when we know the people who run the country don't?We can say what we would do and why we would do it. We can point out data and trends. But asking people to follow rules the Prime Minister of the country and his entourage wont - how can you really?
Quote from: wilts rover on December 08, 2021, 03:35:07 pmThis is the major problem now for the country after what Johnson is currently doing.How can anyone ask Axholme or CDH or anyone else to follow any rules or guidelines when we know the people who run the country don't?We can say what we would do and why we would do it. We can point out data and trends. But asking people to follow rules the Prime Minister of the country and his entourage wont - how can you really?I'm not saying i won't be sensible and careful, but i won't be sat at home for three months.
Quote from: normal rules on December 08, 2021, 03:28:59 pmDon’t shoot the messenger here, but legal experts on covid legislation are suggesting that there is a loophole in the 1984 legislation that was used as the basis for imposing the tier systems, which means that the City of Westminster Council would have had to agree that Downing Street fell under the jurisdiction of this legislation. Don’t ask me about the detail, because I am not au fait with it.Westminster city council have so far refused to comment .So there may be a cop out for all this.Damage done though. 2000 cases of Covid rule breaking have gone through the Westminster courts and no-one has ever yet used that defence. Lets see if they try it now.Also over 2000 gone/going through Sheffield Court I learnt today.
Xmas parties aside, the daily coronavirus figures have been published. And it’s not good news.A further 51,342 new Covid cases have been confirmed across the UK, up from 45,691 yesterday and 48,374 for the same day last week.There have also been 161 deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported across the UK.It means there have been 339,861 new cases in the last seven days, an 11.3% rise on the previous seven-day period.New restrictions are coming.
Quote from: normal rules on December 08, 2021, 04:47:44 pmXmas parties aside, the daily coronavirus figures have been published. And it’s not good news.A further 51,342 new Covid cases have been confirmed across the UK, up from 45,691 yesterday and 48,374 for the same day last week.There have also been 161 deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported across the UK.It means there have been 339,861 new cases in the last seven days, an 11.3% rise on the previous seven-day period.New restrictions are coming. it is yet to be seen if hospitalisations are going up, in my area they give gone down in 3 weeks from 79 in hospital to 22 so it's not all bad as more people will have had there boosters
Leaked minuted from yesterday’s SAGE meeting suggest ministers must urgently Consider restrictions.I can’t see the govt ignoring this advice.
Quote from: bpoolrover on December 08, 2021, 04:49:53 pmQuote from: normal rules on December 08, 2021, 04:47:44 pmXmas parties aside, the daily coronavirus figures have been published. And it’s not good news.A further 51,342 new Covid cases have been confirmed across the UK, up from 45,691 yesterday and 48,374 for the same day last week.There have also been 161 deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported across the UK.It means there have been 339,861 new cases in the last seven days, an 11.3% rise on the previous seven-day period.New restrictions are coming. it is yet to be seen if hospitalisations are going up, in my area they give gone down in 3 weeks from 79 in hospital to 22 so it's not all bad as more people will have had there boosters Nationally, hospitalisations are still flatlining at about 750/day, thankfully. My best guess though is that they'll be rising sharply by this time next week. And given that trends in deaths have all the the epidemic remarkably well tracked trends in hospitalisations a week before, I'd expect some grim deaths data over Xmas week.