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Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 23, 2020, 07:42:15 amQuote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 03:26:01 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 22, 2020, 02:18:34 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 12:59:22 pmOver the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?Why can't councils use the funds they receive for unused school meals and keep at full profit?Because they are not allowed. Neither are schools. That's what yesterdys vote was about that the Tory's voted against - extending provision of a service.There is no left-over money anyway. Our school precept is decided by a number of criteria and the number of children on roll entitled to FSM is one of them. We then allocate the budget on that. It doesn't matter if the children eat the meals or not - or even leave - the money has been and gone before the year even starts. How have Doncaster managed it then?I have physically seen and been involved in the conversations to look at how much can be made out of FSM. As an example those on FSM will get an allowance each day. If that allowance is unused the allowance is removed from the account of the child. Where is that money going?Also for those that do pay how is it right that profit is added in some cases by 4 different entities before a child is charged?I am on the finance committee of our school and it is our task to agree the budget for this year. I have it here in front of meWe have two income lines, one is a lump sum allocated by the council based on numbers on roll (which takes into account FSM), the other is Pupil Premium which is based entirely on how many disadvantaged children (FSM) are on the roll.We have about 30 expenditure lines - by far the largest is staff costs. The Pupil Premium money, which has to be accounted for in detail, most of that gets spent on extra staff and resources - because these children require extra resources to 'catch up'.There is no money left. It doesn't matter whether the children have meals or not, the money is allocated already and its gone. The only 'extra' we can make is by hiring the facilities after hours, which ain't happening.How Doncaster and the other councils have managed to fund the holiday schemes I don't know - it certainly hasn't come from education budgets.
Quote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 03:26:01 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 22, 2020, 02:18:34 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 12:59:22 pmOver the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?Why can't councils use the funds they receive for unused school meals and keep at full profit?Because they are not allowed. Neither are schools. That's what yesterdys vote was about that the Tory's voted against - extending provision of a service.There is no left-over money anyway. Our school precept is decided by a number of criteria and the number of children on roll entitled to FSM is one of them. We then allocate the budget on that. It doesn't matter if the children eat the meals or not - or even leave - the money has been and gone before the year even starts. How have Doncaster managed it then?I have physically seen and been involved in the conversations to look at how much can be made out of FSM. As an example those on FSM will get an allowance each day. If that allowance is unused the allowance is removed from the account of the child. Where is that money going?Also for those that do pay how is it right that profit is added in some cases by 4 different entities before a child is charged?
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 22, 2020, 02:18:34 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 12:59:22 pmOver the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?Why can't councils use the funds they receive for unused school meals and keep at full profit?Because they are not allowed. Neither are schools. That's what yesterdys vote was about that the Tory's voted against - extending provision of a service.There is no left-over money anyway. Our school precept is decided by a number of criteria and the number of children on roll entitled to FSM is one of them. We then allocate the budget on that. It doesn't matter if the children eat the meals or not - or even leave - the money has been and gone before the year even starts.
Quote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 12:59:22 pmOver the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?Why can't councils use the funds they receive for unused school meals and keep at full profit?
Over the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?
What some folks on here seem to forget is that Rashford isn’t campaigning for FSM, period - ie which people should benefit or not in general. It’s about extending the existing scheme from term time to school holidays.. Do people in financial need suddenly become better off during the holidays.?
UKIP could have been been in power under PR, would it have been more accepted?
Billy, if the government do an about turn they will only take the money back off say local government to pay for it and say they have already given it to them for emergencies. And it will be distributed by vouchers.
Hancock is beyond belief. Right from the start of this crisis when he said the Govt had been discussing food deliveries to the shielded with supermarket bosses, he just lies instinctively when he's asked a question. They aren't even vital questions. And the lies are about matter that are easily, independently checked. It's a ridiculous approach, and frankly very unsettling.