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Wolfie, people in our age group will only have to worry about if mobility scooters will still be tax free by the time they sort things out. The first motor company to abandon EV's and move to a workable Hydrogen platform will corner the market, and I would not be surprised if some sort of scrubber that can be fitted to diesel cars and remove the pollutants is not on the market before very long.
Quote from: selby on November 19, 2020, 10:00:03 am Wolfie, people in our age group will only have to worry about if mobility scooters will still be tax free by the time they sort things out. The first motor company to abandon EV's and move to a workable Hydrogen platform will corner the market, and I would not be surprised if some sort of scrubber that can be fitted to diesel cars and remove the pollutants is not on the market before very long. Diesel already has a DPF fitted to do that, the trouble is when it eventually blocks because people do short runs all the time and not giving it time to do a regen, it causes a whole host of problems
Quote from: Filo on November 19, 2020, 10:30:58 amQuote from: selby on November 19, 2020, 10:00:03 am Wolfie, people in our age group will only have to worry about if mobility scooters will still be tax free by the time they sort things out. The first motor company to abandon EV's and move to a workable Hydrogen platform will corner the market, and I would not be surprised if some sort of scrubber that can be fitted to diesel cars and remove the pollutants is not on the market before very long. Diesel already has a DPF fitted to do that, the trouble is when it eventually blocks because people do short runs all the time and not giving it time to do a regen, it causes a whole host of problemsGuilty. A short run down the motorway is enough to get everything up to temperature to burn any gunk off though. Never had a real problem with it.
Quote from: River Don on November 19, 2020, 10:41:11 amQuote from: Filo on November 19, 2020, 10:30:58 amQuote from: selby on November 19, 2020, 10:00:03 am Wolfie, people in our age group will only have to worry about if mobility scooters will still be tax free by the time they sort things out. The first motor company to abandon EV's and move to a workable Hydrogen platform will corner the market, and I would not be surprised if some sort of scrubber that can be fitted to diesel cars and remove the pollutants is not on the market before very long. Diesel already has a DPF fitted to do that, the trouble is when it eventually blocks because people do short runs all the time and not giving it time to do a regen, it causes a whole host of problemsGuilty. A short run down the motorway is enough to get everything up to temperature to burn any gunk off though. Never had a real problem with it. Now I’m back with a Diesel, I shall be using only Shell Vpower, nearest one to me is Glews Garage at Goole, like you say a short blast down the motorway helps keep the engine in good condition. I like the premium fuels and believe in them, the X3 I just got rid of was petrol and only had Tesco Momentum 99 octane
Bloomberg New Energy Finance 2020 looks at the prospect for the change to electric for the finance community.It includes the following about the international progress; "Electric vehicles (EVs) reach upfront price parity with Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles before 2025, spurring faster adoption thereafter". What that means is that the Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) is obsolete from that point.Anyone owning a ICE vehicle going forward will pay additional taxation over and above that for electric.Road pricing per mile is likely, tapered to impacts on the environment. Running costs are 10x higher per mile for ICE compared to electric.With battery costs reducing at 18% per year, the pace of change is getting faster.ICE is simply not competitive on economic grounds beyond the point at which upfront costs converge.
AL,It is because driving a petrol/diesel vehicle imposes costs on others, via pollution impacts.You will still be able to choose, but increasingly one option will cost more than the other, to reflect the policy objective.As battery cost is the principal element in upfront cost, as these reduce it will become a no brainer.When you talk about convenience and practicality, keep in mind an ICE has about 2000 parts, an EV much less (20 or so, model dependent). What does that mean for maintenance costs?
Petrol stations out of business, mechanics out of business, motor car parts out of business, it will have a huge impact on the UK workforce while Country’s like China continue to churn out shit into the atmosphere
Quote from: Filo on November 19, 2020, 04:02:14 pmPetrol stations out of business, mechanics out of business, motor car parts out of business, it will have a huge impact on the UK workforce while Country’s like China continue to churn out shit into the atmosphereand caravan and mobile home manufacturers and sellers
The range of EVs is a major issue for me. I travel in excess of 40k miles a year (over half of that being work mileage) with regular single one way journeys of around 250 miles and round trips of 300 miles at times. Attending the Keepmoat is around 200 mile round trip and most away games are far more than that. What concerns me is being able to find an EV charging point at a convenient location on the route and it not in use already, along with the time spent waiting for it to charge. No doubt charging points on motorway services will offer a recharge at a much higher cost than Elsewhere as they do with fuel, but with fuel you can plan to avoid them by filling up before long motorway journeys.