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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #210 on May 23, 2019, 03:38:05 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Nice to see the ones who lecture us regularly on how unpleasant the Remainers are, refusing to take the bait of acting like hypocrites.



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Bentley Bullet

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #211 on May 23, 2019, 03:59:08 pm by Bentley Bullet »
It's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #212 on May 23, 2019, 04:08:36 pm by DonnyOsmond »
But surely you'd realise that maybe giving the Tories the control that you're taking from Europe isn't the best idea based on how they've handled leaving?

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #213 on May 23, 2019, 04:19:41 pm by MachoMadness »
I think most other remainers are outraged, too, BB. I think the sticking point for most is to do with foreign money being illegally funneled into British politics by far-right spivs harvesting our personal data (also illegally). I wouldn't say some remainers being a bit rude sometimes - after 3 years of being called sheep, liberal elite, middle class traitors who should be hanged, etc - compares to that, but different strokes and all that.

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« Reply #214 on May 23, 2019, 04:25:01 pm by Bentley Bullet »
But surely you'd realise that maybe giving the Tories the control that you're taking from Europe isn't the best idea based on how they've handled leaving?
Neither of the two major parties would be my choice. Maybe they won't be the country's choice either in the not too distant future.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #215 on May 23, 2019, 04:39:49 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.

BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.

Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.

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« Reply #216 on May 23, 2019, 04:43:52 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I don't blame them for being outraged, I can empathise with them, but that doesn't mean they would now vote remain.

I can honestly say I've been very smart, even by my standards, by voting Remain. I feel great in the knowledge that I'm gonna live forever, simply because I put my cross in the remain box!
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« Reply #217 on May 23, 2019, 04:51:42 pm by RedRover45 »
It's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.

BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.

Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.

In the interests of fairness BST, isn't it likely that marginally under a million of people who voted remain have also died since the vote ?

wilts rover

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« Reply #218 on May 23, 2019, 05:00:40 pm by wilts rover »
Polish bloke in the flats opposite me has got 3 Brexit Party photos in the window. Luckily the arrows are pointing the opposite way to the Polling Station.

Should i go ask him to take them down what with him being foreign and interfering in a British election?

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #219 on May 23, 2019, 05:05:57 pm by foxbat »
Mike Harding #FBPE‏ @HardingMike · 8h8 hours ago 


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3 yrs ago -17.4 mill voted Leave 16.1 mill voted Remain. The 16 mill have been abused, called "remoaners and traitors, queue jumpers and citizens of nowhere." The BBC have largely ignored them and the Tory Press have vilified them. The 17.4 mill are in meltdown. Stay strong.


RedRover45

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« Reply #220 on May 23, 2019, 05:15:08 pm by RedRover45 »
Mike Harding #FBPE‏ @HardingMike · 8h8 hours ago 


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3 yrs ago -17.4 mill voted Leave 16.1 mill voted Remain. The 16 mill have been abused, called "remoaners and traitors, queue jumpers and citizens of nowhere." The BBC have largely ignored them and the Tory Press have vilified them. The 17.4 mill are in meltdown. Stay strong.



Yes, but to be fair Mike Harding is from Lancashire which sort of negates the relevance.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #221 on May 23, 2019, 05:24:53 pm by DonnyOsmond »
I think most other remainers are outraged, too, BB. I think the sticking point for most is to do with foreign money being illegally funneled into British politics by far-right spivs harvesting our personal data (also illegally). I wouldn't say some remainers being a bit rude sometimes - after 3 years of being called sheep, liberal elite, middle class traitors who should be hanged, etc - compares to that, but different strokes and all that.

Very annoying watching something happen which all predictions point to us as a country being poorer and us as a region being even poorer. I don't want to see that. I also don't want to see Farage's mates make millions from shorting the pound while we all become poorer.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #222 on May 23, 2019, 05:49:50 pm by Bentley Bullet »
A mate of mine once said he was gonna buy me one of those folk guitarist/comedy song albums that were popular in the 70s.

 He said: "when I went to pay for it I couldn't get my card in".

"Thank f**k for that' I said. "Did you get me Jasper Carrott instead"?
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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #223 on May 23, 2019, 06:07:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.

BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.

Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.

In the interests of fairness BST, isn't it likely that marginally under a million of people who voted remain have also died since the vote ?

Actually no. The point is that the Leave voters were disproportionately represented by the older voters.


Not Now Kato

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« Reply #224 on May 23, 2019, 06:38:38 pm by Not Now Kato »
So it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.

If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.

And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.

Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?

Pancho, the only reason we're having this election is because Parliament has failed to deliver the mandate they were given by the people, that they promised to honour.

Parliament was not given a mandate by the people.  Parliament simply responded to a non-binding referendum.  That is not a mandate, it's not even the will of the people, it's not even a majority of the people who live on these sceptred isles; it's simply a desire to leave the EU by 17.4 million people who didn't have a united view of what kind of leave they were actually voting for, and don't have a united view of what kind of leave they want even now!
 
That the referendum offered a binary choice with no detail whatsoever as to what leave meant was stupid in the first place; those who fail to see that, see the damage that it has already caused the country, and see the damage that will continue to be caused when we leave are even dafter.
 

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« Reply #225 on May 23, 2019, 09:32:16 pm by scawsby steve »
So it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.

If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.

And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.

Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?

Pancho, the only reason we're having this election is because Parliament has failed to deliver the mandate they were given by the people, that they promised to honour.

Parliament was not given a mandate by the people.  Parliament simply responded to a non-binding referendum.  That is not a mandate, it's not even the will of the people, it's not even a majority of the people who live on these sceptred isles; it's simply a desire to leave the EU by 17.4 million people who didn't have a united view of what kind of leave they were actually voting for, and don't have a united view of what kind of leave they want even now!
 
That the referendum offered a binary choice with no detail whatsoever as to what leave meant was stupid in the first place; those who fail to see that, see the damage that it has already caused the country, and see the damage that will continue to be caused when we leave are even dafter.

Would you have said all this if Remain had won?

No, I thought not.

What is it about you lot that reminds me of Peterborough supporters?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #226 on May 23, 2019, 10:19:32 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
SS
For the 20th time.

Remain was a Thing. If we'd voted Remain that would have been a vote for a Thing. Clear and simple.

The vote for Leave was a vote for an undefined concept. It needed the detail fleshing out afterwards. It's now clear that there is no defined Leave Thing that commands a majority in the country or in Parliament. That's why we're in such a mess now.

Before you complain that this is just a Remoaner moaning (not that you would, because that would be insulting and you are better than that) and that all the Leave voters knew what they were voting for, don't listen to me. Listen to what Farage campaigned for in 2016 (Norway deal) and what he says now (that a Norway deal would be a betrayal). Listen to the Leave campaigners who said that leaving the Single Market would be insane in 2016 and are now saying that staying in the SM wouldn't be Brexit.

It's perverse to argue against those facts, but something tells me you will.

Not Now Kato

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« Reply #227 on May 23, 2019, 10:45:16 pm by Not Now Kato »
So it's Polling Day for possibly the most pointless election in my lifetime.

If we end up staying in the EU we will be largely represented by a bunch of Brexit Party MEP's who will constantly try to disrupt proceedings and make a mockery of the European Parliament.

And if we exit the EU then the whole thing will have been a waste of time and money anyway.

Where is the Monster Raving Loony Party when you need 'em?

Pancho, the only reason we're having this election is because Parliament has failed to deliver the mandate they were given by the people, that they promised to honour.

Parliament was not given a mandate by the people.  Parliament simply responded to a non-binding referendum.  That is not a mandate, it's not even the will of the people, it's not even a majority of the people who live on these sceptred isles; it's simply a desire to leave the EU by 17.4 million people who didn't have a united view of what kind of leave they were actually voting for, and don't have a united view of what kind of leave they want even now!
 
That the referendum offered a binary choice with no detail whatsoever as to what leave meant was stupid in the first place; those who fail to see that, see the damage that it has already caused the country, and see the damage that will continue to be caused when we leave are even dafter.

Would you have said all this if Remain had won?

No, I thought not.

What is it about you lot that reminds me of Peterborough supporters?

Did you understand what I wrote in my post SS?
 
No, I thought not.

What is it about Brexiters that reminds me of Leeds supporters?
 
Oh, and care to tell us which version of leave you thought you were voting for, and what you thought the implications of that version of leave would have for the country?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #228 on May 23, 2019, 11:53:41 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #229 on May 24, 2019, 07:26:12 am by DonnyOsmond »
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?

Nah, we're not all fat, middle aged, bald and racist x
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BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #230 on May 24, 2019, 08:11:54 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?

Nah, we're not all far, middle aged, bald and racist x

No. And I'm not racist either.

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #231 on May 24, 2019, 11:09:05 am by Axholme Lion »
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?

If the remainiacs had won the referendum it would have all been forgotten about by now.
BAD LOSERS.

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #232 on May 24, 2019, 11:11:28 am by Axholme Lion »
It's more than the 17.4 million honest Brits who are outraged, Billy lad, some of those who voted remain, like me, are honest enough to be outraged also.

BB. The polls indicate that for every one of you, there are a couple or three folk who voted Leave but have been equally outraged by they way in which they were misled. So if you want to play the numbers game like that, you're on thin ice.

Mind, I accept that if the 17.4m who voted Leave are ALL outraged, they must be REALLY outraged, given that a million of them are no longer with us.

In the interests of fairness BST, isn't it likely that marginally under a million of people who voted remain have also died since the vote ?

Actually no. The point is that the Leave voters were disproportionately represented by the older voters.



Proves what I thought that most of the young are thick.

MachoMadness

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Re: Brexit Party Leaflets
« Reply #233 on May 24, 2019, 11:54:08 am by MachoMadness »
Careful AL, I'm sure Scawsby will be on your case about repugnant ageism in a minute.

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« Reply #234 on May 24, 2019, 01:29:41 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?

If the remainiacs had won the referendum it would have all been forgotten about by now.
BAD LOSERS.

What, UKIP would have given up and gone home would they? :silly:

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #235 on May 24, 2019, 01:36:59 pm by Axholme Lion »
Surely it is Remainers who are like L**ds supporters, with their claims of losing unfairly in Europe?

If the remainiacs had won the referendum it would have all been forgotten about by now.
BAD LOSERS.

What, UKIP would have given up and gone home would they? :silly:

Maybe they would have accepted defeat with good grace and not threw all their toys out of the cot like a bunch of spoilt brats?

wilts rover

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« Reply #236 on May 24, 2019, 01:52:28 pm by wilts rover »
Fascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.

Labour - 26%
Brexit P - 22%
Cons - 22%
LD - 12%

12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.

Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776


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« Reply #237 on May 24, 2019, 01:58:26 pm by bpoolrover »
Fascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.

Labour - 26%
Brexit P - 22%
Cons - 22%
LD - 12%

12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.

Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776


the polls could all change when the tories get a new leader I can’t see them polling any lower than they would now

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #238 on May 24, 2019, 02:11:17 pm by Axholme Lion »
Fascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.

Labour - 26%
Brexit P - 22%
Cons - 22%
LD - 12%

12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.

Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776


the polls could all change when the tories get a new leader I can’t see them polling any lower than they would now

If the tories get a hard Brexit leader they will win the next GE.

wilts rover

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« Reply #239 on May 24, 2019, 02:20:35 pm by wilts rover »
Fascinating poll out today (no not the Survation one that shows Labour on a 5% lead with 33% of the vote) but the Opinium one.

Labour - 26%
Brexit P - 22%
Cons - 22%
LD - 12%

12% of the vote would get the Lib Dems 34 seats. 22% of the vote would get the Brexit Party 4 seats.

Dont get too excited about a revolution in British politics just yet.
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1131881294349131776


the polls could all change when the tories get a new leader I can’t see them polling any lower than they would now

If the tories get a hard Brexit leader they will win the next GE.

Lets hope we get to test that theory in the next couple of months...

 

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