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That's the end of purely tippy tappy football Arsenal and Barcelona turned over heavily. You need more than good football you need guts and determination, the ability to stay in a game, tactical nous both sides now have neither.Barcelona get away with it with the superstars they have but they have had major problems in their side for years defensively. Arsenal, you have a manager covering for a board that doesn't want to spend the money needed.He has lost what influence he had over the players to change things. He has three or four very good players mixed in with a lot of average ones they are continually found wanting tactically in the big games they chase and chase games like they have no brain. Flimsy weak minded players with a manager who is the same he has run his course unfortunately. The squad he inherited when he first started had a backbone that he added to this inflated his true ability and he's lived off it ever since. At least Barcelona for a time were a fantastic team that though they had weaknesses nobody to get at them because of the players further forward. Barcelona dominated and won things what have Arsenal truly achieved if you take away the period where the squad still had the mentality that George Graham built?-very little.
Makes me laugh Wenger slagging his players offHe bought them, he prepared them, he picked the teamTime to look in the mirror And our fans want DF out after a couple of poor results
Arsenals players just aren't good enough, it's a simple as that. How many of their 11 would get in the Bayern side?
Great players can make a useless manager look good. A great manager can't make useless players look good.
Quote from: roversdude on February 16, 2017, 08:34:34 amMakes me laugh Wenger slagging his players offHe bought them, he prepared them, he picked the teamTime to look in the mirror And our fans want DF out after a couple of poor resultsNot sure I've seen anyone calling for him to go after a couple of poor results
It should almost start... ancient Chinese proverb saysLove it Gazlaz
The Arsenal TV videos have been getting the piss taken out of them for years on social media.
Add ManU and Chelsea among others to that list.Great when you are top of the pile and bragging in the pub or at work. Not so great when they slip.These super clubs have had far more success than any lower league fan could dream of. They didn't moan when teams like Wolves in the 60s slumped or the demise of Leeds,Forest and lately Liverpool. Had these teams not slipped there would have been no room at the top for those now moaning.Football is cyclical to an extent. Enjoy the highs and ride out the lows, just never expect or demand success to be permanent.
I worked with a bloke in his 50s in Leeds who supported Chelsea and had for years for no apparent reason.He saw an occasional game. I don't class him as a fan even though he would come in gloating after a win. What did he ever contribute to Chelsea or even football?I also worked with Man U fans and one even went to the odd game when he didn't watch Bradford City.I've spent more on programmes than most of them have on gate money.Not fans in my book.
Quote from: idler on February 16, 2017, 04:38:18 pmAdd ManU and Chelsea among others to that list.Great when you are top of the pile and bragging in the pub or at work. Not so great when they slip.These super clubs have had far more success than any lower league fan could dream of. They didn't moan when teams like Wolves in the 60s slumped or the demise of Leeds,Forest and lately Liverpool. Had these teams not slipped there would have been no room at the top for those now moaning.Football is cyclical to an extent. Enjoy the highs and ride out the lows, just never expect or demand success to be permanent.I've worked in London for years and I think Arsenal are the worst by a mile. Chelsea fans are nothing like Arsenals, there's not as many of them for a start. Man U are in there with Madrid, absolute global monsters, very different to Arsenal again.