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Title: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: karldew on May 18, 2017, 09:23:59 pm
Just seen this on Stockys Facebook page and nice to see a few ex Rovers players on the list!

"Didn't think it would be as tough as it was to choose the following players, I have been fortunate to play with so many great footballers! I could of put two answers for every one!!

Of the footballers you've ever played with who was the:

Best Goalkeeper: Neil Sullivan
Best Defender: Kieran Trippier
Best Midfielder: Richie Wellens
Best Forward: Billy Sharp
Best Finisher: James Hayter
Best Overall Player: Gareth Bale
Best Left Foot: Warren Cummings
Best Right Foot: Charlie Austin
Best Captain: Ian Cox
Best Football Brain: Aaron Ramsey
Best at 5 A Side: Junior Stanislas
Best in the Air: Sam Vokes
Best Feet: Danny Ings
Most Talented: James Coppinger
Most Potential: Jermaine Defoe (2000/01)
Most Passionate: Ben Mee
Fittest: Paul Green
Quickest: Craig Bellamy
Strongest: Mark McCammon
Dirtiest: Dean Marney
Longest in the shower: Martin Woods
Loves a nutmeg: Kyle Bennett
Greediest: El Hadj Diouff"
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: drfchound on May 18, 2017, 09:31:16 pm
Very interesting.
Thanks for posting that, some of us who don't do Facebook would never have seen it.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: mushRTID on May 18, 2017, 09:33:15 pm
Had some quality players recently haven't we.

I'd have thought Heffs was a better finisher than Hayter though.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: LincsRover on May 18, 2017, 09:52:31 pm
Interesting - Gareth Bale best overall player but Copps most talented!! Feel privileged to have seen such a player at donny so long! And stocky wasn't half bad either!

 :rtid:
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: drfchound on May 18, 2017, 09:55:44 pm
Diouff had some fantastic ball skills, I remember watching some of the tricks he was doing at half time when he was a sub for Leeds in one of the games against them at the KMS.
To put Copps above him as the most talented is a great endorsement.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: donny dave on May 18, 2017, 10:02:39 pm
would love to see Stocky come back for the Hall of fame presentation he deserves.
One of my all time favs with Copps.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Lesonthewest on May 18, 2017, 10:21:44 pm
Terrific player & great fella, right up there with my all time favourite Rovers players. Believe he was Sean's first signing on loan when he took over, Huddersfield away I think. Brilliant to watch at times.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RedJ on May 18, 2017, 10:44:27 pm
Diouff had some fantastic ball skills, I remember watching some of the tricks he was doing at half time when he was a sub for Leeds in one of the games against them at the KMS.
To put Copps above him as the most talented is a great endorsement.

I don't remember Diouf playing against us, when was that?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: PDX_Rover on May 18, 2017, 11:37:16 pm
Great player but a hall of famer?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Jimmydee on May 19, 2017, 09:11:21 am
I liked Stocky untill he lamely passed back to the keeper at Blackpool
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Herman Hessian on May 19, 2017, 10:01:35 am
Just seen this on Stockys Facebook page and nice to see a few ex Rovers players on the list!

Longest in the shower: Martin Woods


i'm sure martin "big boy" woods is delighted to be thusly feted...
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: drfchound on May 19, 2017, 10:02:44 am
Diouff had some fantastic ball skills, I remember watching some of the tricks he was doing at half time when he was a sub for Leeds in one of the games against them at the KMS.
To put Copps above him as the most talented is a great endorsement.

I don't remember Diouf playing against us, when was that?




He was a sub for leeds, i think it was in the game where we won on pens.
I cant remember whether or not he came on for them but at half time he put on an exhibition of incredible skills with the ball.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Belle_Vue on May 19, 2017, 10:29:41 am
Interesting with Diuof, obviously his bad boy attitude didn't do him any favours. On one hand Pele named him as one of the best to be alive. On the other Gerrard named him as one of the worst he's played with
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RoversDave on May 19, 2017, 02:59:16 pm
Diouff had some fantastic ball skills, I remember watching some of the tricks he was doing at half time when he was a sub for Leeds in one of the games against them at the KMS.
To put Copps above him as the most talented is a great endorsement.

I don't remember Diouf playing against us, when was that?




He was a sub for leeds, i think it was in the game where we won on pens.
I cant remember whether or not he came on for them but at half time he put on an exhibition of incredible skills with the ball.

Just checked, he was a non playing sub for Leeds when they won 3-1 at the Keepmoat 27th August 2013 in the League Cup.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Drover on May 19, 2017, 04:15:23 pm
Diouff had some fantastic ball skills, I remember watching some of the tricks he was doing at half time when he was a sub for Leeds in one of the games against them at the KMS.
To put Copps above him as the most talented is a great endorsement.

I don't remember Diouf playing against us, when was that?




He was a sub for leeds, i think it was in the game where we won on pens.
I cant remember whether or not he came on for them but at half time he put on an exhibition of incredible skills with the ball.

Just checked, he was a non playing sub for Leeds when they won 3-1 at the Keepmoat 27th August 2013 in the League Cup.
Was that the one with a fracas in the tunnel?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: drfchound on May 19, 2017, 04:18:21 pm
Not sure about that but it was the game that Matt Smith bullied Rob Jones all evening.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: wilts rover on May 19, 2017, 04:24:55 pm
I am surprised at Stocky giving credit to Wellens, I thought they didn't get on?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: chrisd_123 on May 19, 2017, 04:28:46 pm
I suppose they don't need to get on to acknowledge that the other is/was a fantastic player.

Look at Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham. They detested each other at United but played well and respected each other as players.

I like to see things like this at times. Always interesting to see how players see it over fans etc.

Similar to the Copps/Bale thing, he's played with Billy Sharp but says James Hayter is the best finisher.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: NickDRFC on May 19, 2017, 04:45:26 pm
It doesn't really surprise me him saying that Hayter was a better finisher than say Sharp or Heffernan, I'm inclined to agree with him.

Sharp & Heffernan were fantastic at finding space/being in the right place at the right time, but I remember them missing a lot of chances, especially Sharp. Hayter never scored as many but I don't recall him missing chances like those two, partly because he didn't have their movement or knack of being in the right place at the right time, and partly because he was less selfish and more likely to drop deep.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: BobG on May 19, 2017, 11:49:06 pm
I'd put Stocky in the hall of fame Mark. Along with Stevie Lister he is one of the two the most graceful players I've ever seen in red and white. Stocky made that team tick right from the start. Once he got Wellens alongside him we had a midfield to drool over. Stocky's in my top five all time Rovers. So that's decided then :):):) Lol

BobG
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: no eyed deer on May 20, 2017, 05:06:48 am
If Jason Price can get in, Stock's a certainty.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on May 21, 2017, 03:05:47 am
I'd love to see Stock involved with us if he is any good at coaching. I think he went many years unappreciated he was just so efficient on the ball and he had a bit of everything. Wellens was a better player but didn't have the pace to make him succeed higher up. Green had the fitness but not the ability. Stock had a bit of all qualities Burnley got him after his peak we saw his best.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: idler on May 21, 2017, 07:11:16 am
I'm not sure you  get unappreciated from Sammy, I don't think I remember barely a bad word about him.
His only problem was injuries. Without those he would never have played for us.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: roversdude on May 21, 2017, 09:05:07 am
Tend to agree with Sammy although he has never received the bad mouthing he doesn't seem to get mentioned often
The entire team that won at Wembley should be in hall of fame by default
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RedJ on May 21, 2017, 03:32:33 pm
One person I'd love to see inducted into the hall of fame is James Hayter. There's no one greater...
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: balbyrover on May 21, 2017, 06:22:54 pm
Tend to agree with Sammy although he has never received the bad mouthing he doesn't seem to get mentioned often
The entire team that won at Wembley should be in hall of fame by default

Disagree,as great as that side was you can't go around putting every promotion winning team in the hall of fame.. Individuals for important goals or records potentially but not a full side.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on May 22, 2017, 03:16:43 am
Tend to agree with Sammy although he has never received the bad mouthing he doesn't seem to get mentioned often
The entire team that won at Wembley should be in hall of fame by default

He never really got any stick but he was so reliable we just took it as normal when he played well. Mark Wilson was another, maybe not as good as Stock but when he was in the side he was a tidy player and didn't waste the ball much. Spicer and Shiels were unlucky at that time both were decent players. Heffernan definitely was wasted under Sean.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RoversAlias on May 22, 2017, 02:04:17 pm
Aye Wilson (well known as one of my favourite players) got a lot of stick because of SOD's propensity for bringing him on late for a striker to sure things up, and because he did nothing fancy despite being an ex-Man Utd player people expected more. But Willo did a good job of the simple stuff you need to do in holding midfield, much like Keegan has done as his successor.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: drfchound on May 23, 2017, 04:04:56 pm
Funnily enough, i also thoght Wilson was a decent player but i remember that he got lots of stick from some of our supporters.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: chrisd_123 on May 23, 2017, 04:43:07 pm
Always remember Mark Wilson's performance at Hillsborough the night Elliott Ward scored 'that' goal. He was a very under appreciated player.

RoversAlias hit the nail on the head but I think Wilson probably suffered as he wasn't quite on the level of Stock and Wellens at that point. He was never a player to spray the passes around.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: balbyrover on May 23, 2017, 05:45:45 pm
Mark Wilson was not in the same league as Stock or Wellens to be honest. Them two,on their day were unplayable.

Wilson was a grafter and did the basics very well though and was a good player all round,players like him tend to go unnoticed at a lot of clubs to be honest .
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Drover on May 23, 2017, 08:11:30 pm
I have to admit,whenever I heard Wilson's name announced on the starting line-up,I used to groan,especially if it was due to the abscence of Stocky or Wellens,BUT,I also have to admit,it seemed,we more often than not,we would win those games!Or atleast get a better result than I expected.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Belle_Vue on May 23, 2017, 08:27:38 pm
Looking at his wiki stats we was the only club Willo ever made more than a few appearances for.
Also I cannot remember him joining us on loan whilst we were still at Belle Vue?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RedJ on May 23, 2017, 09:40:10 pm
I cannot understand why three different managers signed him (or is it four), or why we signed him for no apparent reason in his last spell then never played him.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 24, 2017, 08:48:06 am
Think Wilson was in the category of "local, reliable, pliable, good to have around squad".

Sprinkling of stardust having been raised at Man Utd around time of Class of '92 lot and got sold for over million quid once. Imagine those stories go down well in dressing room.

Definitely the modern day Lee Warren for me.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: BobG on May 24, 2017, 09:46:52 pm
I would always want to watch stocky and wellens, but Mark Wilson rarely let you down. A player you could rely on as well as being a steady chap with a conscience and some initiative. Can't ask for much more tbh for me.

BobG
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Mike_F on May 26, 2017, 09:09:10 am
Looking at his wiki stats we was the only club Willo ever made more than a few appearances for.
Also I cannot remember him joining us on loan whilst we were still at Belle Vue?

He joined us briefly when we were in the Conference and looked very poor at the time. IIRC he later said he thought his career was over and having been at Man Utd then sold to Boro for a million his mental state wasn't great when he turned out in non-league.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RoversAlias on May 26, 2017, 11:12:29 am
It was after we were out of the Conference but the rest of what you've said seems accurate. He played a few games on loan to us in 2004 in amongst several brief loan spells, then he went over to America and played in the MLS for a bit before signing for us permanently. I believe he is back in the States now coaching.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Mike_F on May 26, 2017, 11:41:21 am
Ah sorry, he must've said that about Division Three as it was called at the time.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: Branton Rover on May 26, 2017, 01:30:47 pm
Remember arguing when we beat Crystal Palace think 3-1 away & this bloke was saying afterwards "what did he play Wilson for". I responded saying "we've beaten Crystal Palace away from home & you're moaning about Mark Wilson" what a numpty
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: NickDRFC on May 26, 2017, 03:56:52 pm
John Ryan always hated Mark Wilson. Very vocally at games as well. I couldn't understand it as surely he must have signed off his contract.

As others have  alluded to, he was always a steady player but looked unfavourably upon by our fans because he didn't have the talent of Wellens, Stock, Green or latterly Oster
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: German Rover on May 26, 2017, 04:13:11 pm
Well JR knew bugger all about football anyway. That's what he employed people to do and he had the trust in them to do it. Sod was one of our most successful managers and he played him regularly. That'll do for me.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RedJ on May 26, 2017, 04:29:00 pm
Well JR knew bugger all about football anyway. That's what he employed people to do and he had the trust in them to do it. Sod was one of our most successful managers and he played him regularly. That'll do for me.

This same man also repeatedly randomly threw on a defender to go with five at the back time after time despite knowing full well it had cost us on numerous occasions.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: German Rover on May 26, 2017, 08:42:31 pm
Well JR knew bugger all about football anyway. That's what he employed people to do and he had the trust in them to do it. Sod was one of our most successful managers and he played him regularly. That'll do for me.

This same man also repeatedly randomly threw on a defender to go with five at the back time after time despite knowing full well it had cost us on numerous occasions.

And took us to our highest league finish since the 50s. But who's counting?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RedJ on May 26, 2017, 09:32:17 pm
Well JR knew bugger all about football anyway. That's what he employed people to do and he had the trust in them to do it. Sod was one of our most successful managers and he played him regularly. That'll do for me.

This same man also repeatedly randomly threw on a defender to go with five at the back time after time despite knowing full well it had cost us on numerous occasions.

And took us to our highest league finish since the 50s. But who's counting?

With the most expensive squad in our history, but yeah.
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: idler on May 26, 2017, 10:25:47 pm
So RedJ we give you the biggest budget we've ever had and you will do better?
Title: Re: Brian Stock "Who was the..."
Post by: RedJ on May 26, 2017, 11:07:29 pm
I think the fact that he'd been in football his whole life would probably give him a bit of an edge over someone whose experience ends at the local park. Doesn't exactly prove what I've said wrong though, does it?