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Ah, the power of the right wing media and people who are incapable of thinking for themselves! Tell me, those of you who voted Tory, why do you think a proven inveterate liar is a good leader of this country! Just one good, honest, reason - and knocking anyone in the opposition is NOT a good reason, that's pampering to what you read in the Mail etc! What credentials has Johnson got in your eyes?
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 17, 2020, 10:16:08 pmAh, the power of the right wing media and people who are incapable of thinking for themselves! Tell me, those of you who voted Tory, why do you think a proven inveterate liar is a good leader of this country! Just one good, honest, reason - and knocking anyone in the opposition is NOT a good reason, that's pampering to what you read in the Mail etc! What credentials has Johnson got in your eyes?The question is fair, the second point of your question is not. Look back to the last election and there was a choice between a few options and for many it is a choice of who was the least worst or who matched their Brexit or policy ideas.What I would say is I am far more likely to vote for a Labour party led by Kier Starmer than a Tory party led by Boris at this stage and there was the problem at the last election, Corbyn and the extremity of some policies chosen, they were not moderate enough for me. Pretending the opposition was not an issue is sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring the problem frankly.Let's see what policies the labour party come up with, if they are a little more to the centre than last time and not pushing Brexit they will have a very strong chance of winning.
Typical of the elitist so called educated lefties who see themselves as better than everyone else and insult people on age as well as intelligence and don't realise why they keep losing elections. The labour party became built in their own image, and like them became elitist and aloof and far from the party I knew, voted for and canvased for in my younger days. Now it just represents a party of losers, or is that elite losers. Starmer is not the problem it is his party members and supporters that is the problem. I thought the op was about the Doncaster Council when I read the heading.
Couple of points.1. Just because it was costed out doesn't mean you fundamentally have to agree with it - as has been debated on here many a time and around the time of the election.2. A a simple point there about the use of the media etc. The written press tends to be more right wing, we all agree that. Isn't that the job of left wing commentators to resolve and become attractive themselves? Indeed the labour party has managed to do so in the past under Blair etc.... On the social media side, you tend to see what you're interested in quite often, but the labour party has proven pretty good on that side.
Why do you think Boris will be gone in 12 monthsI think apart from a lot of things that were beyond his control he’s looked after the working people of the country in generalHis next big problem will be maintaining his election pledges and paying for all the borrowing without going back to austerity
Sir Robert DeVereux , the civil servant who has people working until 67 to get their pension is retiring at 61. He is the Secretary of the Department of works and pensions. He has a pension pot of £1.8m. a lump sum of £245,000 and a pension of £85,000 a year.I have no problem with people working hard for a good pension but that seems obscene especially retiring early after condemning other physical workers the right to receive their pension at 65. I’m sure that he’ll manage for six years until he receives his state pension though.☹️
Quote from: phil old leake on May 19, 2020, 08:57:14 amWhy do you think Boris will be gone in 12 monthsI think apart from a lot of things that were beyond his control he’s looked after the working people of the country in generalHis next big problem will be maintaining his election pledges and paying for all the borrowing without going back to austerity He is the invisible prime minister. OK he has been ill but how many times have we seen him? He gets slaughtered at pmq's and he has hardly handled the covid situation well has he? The public would possibly accept some of the things they have obviously done wrong but it seems that Cummings has issued a directive that nobody is to use the word sorry or offer any kind of apology or acceptance that they made mistakes. Opinion polls have also shown a marked drop in satisfaction ratings in the last 10 days.