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Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 01:48:40 pmNo-one is forcing you to be vaccinated. Just that, if you insist that your own personal freedom to choose means you refuse to take simple steps to protect society as a whole, there should be consequences on your ability to engage in the benefits of that society.I am happy to take simple steps, if they make sense to me and the evidence is there to support their effectiveness. Masks is a no no due to both reasons and vaccines no, because they only give protection to the person jabbed, not the rest of society. NHS staff ARE being forced to have a vaccine however and in many European countries where sheep leaders follow sheep leaders they are.
No-one is forcing you to be vaccinated. Just that, if you insist that your own personal freedom to choose means you refuse to take simple steps to protect society as a whole, there should be consequences on your ability to engage in the benefits of that society.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 30, 2022, 02:03:42 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 01:48:40 pmNo-one is forcing you to be vaccinated. Just that, if you insist that your own personal freedom to choose means you refuse to take simple steps to protect society as a whole, there should be consequences on your ability to engage in the benefits of that society.I am happy to take simple steps, if they make sense to me and the evidence is there to support their effectiveness. Masks is a no no due to both reasons and vaccines no, because they only give protection to the person jabbed, not the rest of society. NHS staff ARE being forced to have a vaccine however and in many European countries where sheep leaders follow sheep leaders they are. The person jabbed and then infected will have a lower viral load due to the jab, thats one reason why jabbed people are less likely to die if infected. Having a lower viral load reduces the chances of infecting others
How many f**king times?Vaccines DO significantly reduce the spread of infections. Who is feeding this bullshit into your heads?
Christ it's like talking to a f**king wall.Here we go for the 20th time.1) vaccines reduce the rate of infection by about a half. If you're not infected, by f**king definition you cannot infect others. Duh!2) Even in people who do get infected, the vaccine reduces the duration of the infection and the viral load, both of which reduce the infectiousness of the infected person.Who the f**k is telling you otherwise? Where do you get this absolute certainty in totally wrong information?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 02:56:59 pmChrist it's like talking to a f**king wall.Here we go for the 20th time.1) vaccines reduce the rate of infection by about a half. If you're not infected, by f**king definition you cannot infect others. Duh!2) Even in people who do get infected, the vaccine reduces the duration of the infection and the viral load, both of which reduce the infectiousness of the infected person.Who the f**k is telling you otherwise? Where do you get this absolute certainty in totally wrong information?The don't reduce transmission by half nor reduce the infectiousness so i suggest you stop listening to the MSM or NHS.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 30, 2022, 03:03:40 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 02:56:59 pmChrist it's like talking to a f**king wall.Here we go for the 20th time.1) vaccines reduce the rate of infection by about a half. If you're not infected, by f**king definition you cannot infect others. Duh!2) Even in people who do get infected, the vaccine reduces the duration of the infection and the viral load, both of which reduce the infectiousness of the infected person.Who the f**k is telling you otherwise? Where do you get this absolute certainty in totally wrong information?The don't reduce transmission by half nor reduce the infectiousness so i suggest you stop listening to the MSM or NHS.Yes quite right. Let's stop listening to expert scientific advise given through the media or medical experts from the NHS. Instead let's listen to random blokes with no expertise distributing rumours through social media.Billy I agree with every thing you've written on the last couple of pages or so. Done with much less anger and frustration than I managed. But some people are simply beyond hope sadly.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 30, 2022, 03:03:40 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 02:56:59 pmChrist it's like talking to a f**king wall.Here we go for the 20th time.1) vaccines reduce the rate of infection by about a half. If you're not infected, by f**king definition you cannot infect others. Duh!2) Even in people who do get infected, the vaccine reduces the duration of the infection and the viral load, both of which reduce the infectiousness of the infected person.Who the f**k is telling you otherwise? Where do you get this absolute certainty in totally wrong information?The don't reduce transmission by half nor reduce the infectiousness so i suggest you stop listening to the MSM or NHS.Yes quite right. Let's stop listening to expert scientific advise given through the media or medical experts from the NHS. Instead let's listen to random blokes with no expertise distributing rumours through social media.Some people are simply beyond hope sadly.
Please post a sourced quote from a reputable scientist that says Covid vaccines are ineffective.
Please tell me where you do get your 'nonsense' from then. Have you a sourced quote from a reputable scientist that says "There is little difference in transmisson between jabbed and unjabbed" as you claim?
There a plenty of scientists out there warning against this vaccine that aren't funded by financially interested parties, but you have to look outside of Google, YouTube and Facebook, as they're are censoring this information.If you're only going to take, and I will use your guys favourite buzz word "The Science" from one side, then that is not science is it.And it's not hard to find! all it takes is a search on freedom platforms and you can find it.
God f**king help us. This is what three decades of bothsidesism leads us to. People with zero understanding of how science works lecturing us on their right to choose the opinion they most prefer.
So "There is little difference in transmisson between jabbed and unjabbed" is your own opinion based on your own expertise then CDH?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 08:02:44 pmGod f**king help us. This is what three decades of bothsidesism leads us to. People with zero understanding of how science works lecturing us on their right to choose the opinion they most prefer.I am actually a qualified scientist from the University of Lincoln. Left in 2008. Zero understanding of science?
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 30, 2022, 08:11:01 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 30, 2022, 08:02:44 pmGod f**king help us. This is what three decades of bothsidesism leads us to. People with zero understanding of how science works lecturing us on their right to choose the opinion they most prefer.I am actually a qualified scientist from the University of Lincoln. Left in 2008. Zero understanding of science?What a waste
There a plenty of scientists out there warning against this vaccine that aren't funded by financially interested parties, but you have to look outside of Google, YouTube and Facebook, as they're are censoring this information.If you're only going to take, and I will use your guys favourite buzz word "The Science" from one side, then that is not science is it.And it's not hard to find! all it takes is a search on freedom platforms and you can find it.