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So how does this eugenically-produced paradise come about?Do you support compulsory neutering of people who might transmit certain genes, or enforced abortions of their potential offspring? If no, how does eugenics work in practice? if yes, are you still going to claim that you're not a fascist?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 03:16:39 pmSo how does this eugenically-produced paradise come about?Do you support compulsory neutering of people who might transmit certain genes, or enforced abortions of their potential offspring? If no, how does eugenics work in practice? if yes, are you still going to claim that you're not a fascist?A good start would be to cut out benefits to the ones who are generations into sponging their way through life with no intention of ever working and consider anti social behaviour a good way of life.
Right.So you don't actively stop people having kids who might become criminals. You just starve the kids who might become criminals.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 24, 2021, 03:38:14 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 03:16:39 pmSo how does this eugenically-produced paradise come about?Do you support compulsory neutering of people who might transmit certain genes, or enforced abortions of their potential offspring? If no, how does eugenics work in practice? if yes, are you still going to claim that you're not a fascist?I thought you were the great advocate of science. With research there will be ways to identify the traits.A good start would be to cut out benefits to the ones who are generations into sponging their way through life with no intention of ever working and consider anti social behaviour a good way of life.And just out of interest, how does that stop murderers and rapists? You were putting eugenics forward as a way to prevent future murderers or rapists being born.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 03:16:39 pmSo how does this eugenically-produced paradise come about?Do you support compulsory neutering of people who might transmit certain genes, or enforced abortions of their potential offspring? If no, how does eugenics work in practice? if yes, are you still going to claim that you're not a fascist?I thought you were the great advocate of science. With research there will be ways to identify the traits.A good start would be to cut out benefits to the ones who are generations into sponging their way through life with no intention of ever working and consider anti social behaviour a good way of life.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 03:49:42 pmRight.So you don't actively stop people having kids who might become criminals. You just starve the kids who might become criminals.You stop the potential 'parents' having handouts to fund having kids who will become another generation of the same.Are you lot honestly saying you do not see a problem when you walk around most town centres?There are legions of them, unemployable, anti social rabble. They don't pay any attention to any covid restrictions as it makes no difference to them, still sucking up benefits while normal are struggling to make ends meet. they roam around spitting, swearing, thieving, not to mention the drugs.Are you happy to be around this lot?
I'm changing my mind on eugenics for anti-social behaviour after seeing someone just drive at 60 along our 20mph limit residential street. I'd say sterilise anyone who might give birth to a person who would be genetically predisposed to buying a f**king Audi.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 07:19:14 pmI'm changing my mind on eugenics for anti-social behaviour after seeing someone just drive at 60 along our 20mph limit residential street. I'd say sterilise anyone who might give birth to a person who would be genetically predisposed to buying a f**king Audi.What about BMW?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 24, 2021, 08:29:00 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 07:19:14 pmI'm changing my mind on eugenics for anti-social behaviour after seeing someone just drive at 60 along our 20mph limit residential street. I'd say sterilise anyone who might give birth to a person who would be genetically predisposed to buying a f**king Audi.What about BMW?Suzuki?
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 24, 2021, 04:19:59 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 03:49:42 pmRight.So you don't actively stop people having kids who might become criminals. You just starve the kids who might become criminals.You stop the potential 'parents' having handouts to fund having kids who will become another generation of the same.Are you lot honestly saying you do not see a problem when you walk around most town centres?There are legions of them, unemployable, anti social rabble. They don't pay any attention to any covid restrictions as it makes no difference to them, still sucking up benefits while normal are struggling to make ends meet. they roam around spitting, swearing, thieving, not to mention the drugs.Are you happy to be around this lot?So you think those roaming the street are living the life of riley and can make ends meet? Poverty breeds poverty and those through no fault of there own will find themselves discriminated against both at school and by potential employers. If ones parents had parents that were poor then they may never get opportunity that is available to others.
Quote from: SydneyRover on March 24, 2021, 09:44:45 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 24, 2021, 04:19:59 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 24, 2021, 03:49:42 pmRight.So you don't actively stop people having kids who might become criminals. You just starve the kids who might become criminals.You stop the potential 'parents' having handouts to fund having kids who will become another generation of the same.Are you lot honestly saying you do not see a problem when you walk around most town centres?There are legions of them, unemployable, anti social rabble. They don't pay any attention to any covid restrictions as it makes no difference to them, still sucking up benefits while normal are struggling to make ends meet. they roam around spitting, swearing, thieving, not to mention the drugs.Are you happy to be around this lot?So you think those roaming the street are living the life of riley and can make ends meet? Poverty breeds poverty and those through no fault of there own will find themselves discriminated against both at school and by potential employers. If ones parents had parents that were poor then they may never get opportunity that is available to others.You really are a card aren't you? What do you know about the likes of what are plaguing the streets of England's town centres twelve thousand miles away?You reckon to be a champion of the underprivileged but come out with the most insulting slur on poorer people. Just because you come from a poorer less affluent family it does not follow that you automatically become an obnoxious, anti social, bone idle ne'er do well. I costs nothing for any parent of any back ground to instill in their children the difference between right and wrong and the values of good manners and decency. Not everyone can become a doctor or solicitor, but that doesn't mean you cannot work hard in whatever role you find and build a decent life for yourself.There too many out there who cannot be bothered to do this and choose the easier option.
addressing what I wrote would be a good starting place. I didn't expect anything rational and wasn't disappointed.
Quote from: SydneyRover on March 25, 2021, 09:01:36 amaddressing what I wrote would be a good starting place. I didn't expect anything rational and wasn't disappointed.I did address it. Just because some is poor it does not follow that you have to turn out to be antisocial, and as Idler correctly states just because you are from a wealthy background it doesn't mean you will be a decent person either. Like many you just want to use the poor as a weapon to bash the government, you don't care about them. At least i have the honesty to say what i really feel, whereas you pretend to feel sorry for people who you would probably cross the road to avoid. It's the same with BLM, Millwall get slagged off racism but i stand shoulder to shoulder with my fellow fans at the Den and don't give a shit what colour they are, we are all Wall, but how many of the middle class woke who virtue signal with the knee taking would actually speak to a black person other than when they are serving them in a shop or something?
Deep-seated insecurity? Do you mean like in the way the Labour party likes to sing about keeping the Red flag flying high?