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Quote from: drfchound on May 24, 2022, 01:50:53 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on May 24, 2022, 12:56:35 pmAnd why would johnson lie about it if he had nothing to worry about? it wasn't a party apparentlyYou and your mates, sorry, Labour supporting co posters, had demanded the PM resign as soon as the news broke. Before an investigation began. Before the police got involved.But, but but, that was ok wasn’t it.post #6 this thread bp''Has to resign simple as that''post #7 this thread houndHas to resign simple as that you're welcome
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 24, 2022, 12:56:35 pmAnd why would johnson lie about it if he had nothing to worry about? it wasn't a party apparentlyYou and your mates, sorry, Labour supporting co posters, had demanded the PM resign as soon as the news broke. Before an investigation began. Before the police got involved.But, but but, that was ok wasn’t it.
And why would johnson lie about it if he had nothing to worry about? it wasn't a party apparently
Quote from: River Don on May 25, 2022, 12:28:34 pmSue Gray stopped investigating to let the police investigate which meant that neither of them investigated the party in the flat. What sort of logic is this? It smells of collusion.Sounds like a committee
Sue Gray stopped investigating to let the police investigate which meant that neither of them investigated the party in the flat. What sort of logic is this? It smells of collusion.
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 25, 2022, 12:35:29 pmQuote from: River Don on May 25, 2022, 12:28:34 pmSue Gray stopped investigating to let the police investigate which meant that neither of them investigated the party in the flat. What sort of logic is this? It smells of collusion.Sounds like a committeeInvestigations into beer starmer: 2Investigations into party flat: 0
He'll be fine today. The line will be:He really didn't think he was at any parties.He's appalled at what happened.He takes fully responsibility.Now let's move on.And about 30% of the electorate will be perfectly happy with that and accept that we have, for the first time in history, a PM that has broken the law and lied to Parliament. And that's how these things just get normalised and the foundations of democracy get undermined.
I've got a ton on Starmer getting a 6 month suspended sentence.
The report isn't particularly damning of the pm directly overall. Even the famed so called garden party has been found to have been a genuine work meeting which I think we can all believe as we could with Keir Starmer assuming the rumoured partying is untrue.But the real problem is not that, it's that he allowed the other staff to partake in these things. He should have had control of his whole office and he did not. Taking responsibility would be to resign not say sorry. I totally get that he feels like he didn't directly do much wrong as he probably didn't. But he's the leader in that place and should have control and then lied about it. He has no dignity.
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 25, 2022, 01:08:20 pmI've got a ton on Starmer getting a 6 month suspended sentence.I’ve got a ton of rubble on my front drive I’d like to put on Starmer. Literally.
Another bad day at the office lads?
Quote from: selby on May 25, 2022, 03:00:27 pm Another bad day at the office lads?You don't get it do you, you smug unpleasant man.Johnson staying in No10 is THE best outcome for Labour. He's now forever tainted by this.I want him gone, not for party advantage, but because we should never, evser accept and normalise having a morally bankrupt pathological liar leading the country.
We are quickly approaching the point of Britain being a nation of liars aren't we?We tell lies when we sign treatiesWe tell lies in the House of CommonsWe tell lies, by omission at least, when we report on current eventsWe tell lies when we seek to vilify someoneWe tell lies every time the press goes to printWe tell lies by misusing 96% of statistics....We tell lies to ourselves every single day by pretending to a world role that we do not and cannot have We tell lies by pretending we care about the mentally ill, the deprived, refugees and the NorthWe tell lies about the impact that Brexit will haveWe tell lies about the flow of money, where it comes from and where it goesThis country is fundamentally dishonest.BobG
I'm sure it's been said before but the line up of potential replacements for Johnson is as dark as it gets. That's not to say Johnson shouldn't go. As BST said, it's a line that has been crossed, and then there's his history confirming that this is not a one of gaff, not that it was one off. He's persistently taking the piss. This is what Tory voters and MPs are content with.
Word of the day is 'misken' (15th century): to refuse to recognise something by pretending it's not happening.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 25, 2022, 03:58:27 pmI'm sure it's been said before but the line up of potential replacements for Johnson is as dark as it gets. That's not to say Johnson shouldn't go. As BST said, it's a line that has been crossed, and then there's his history confirming that this is not a one of gaff, not that it was one off. He's persistently taking the piss. This is what Tory voters and MPs are content with.And none is as dark as Keir Starmer.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 25, 2022, 04:39:25 pmQuote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 25, 2022, 03:58:27 pmI'm sure it's been said before but the line up of potential replacements for Johnson is as dark as it gets. That's not to say Johnson shouldn't go. As BST said, it's a line that has been crossed, and then there's his history confirming that this is not a one of gaff, not that it was one off. He's persistently taking the piss. This is what Tory voters and MPs are content with.And none is as dark as Keir Starmer.Starmer is far from my favourite, but not in the same league of perversity as the Tories. You'd prefer Sunak and his ability to understand the ordinary person, his sharing of his vast vast wealth, his denial of his wife's hoarding as being relevant even if not invested in off shore pirate states? Or Truss and her cheesy lines? Or Mogg's Victorian capitalism? Or...?