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There is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league.
We have got to be very careful in L2 with the wrong choice of players we could easily become a Chesterfield
Quote from: Chris Black come back on January 16, 2022, 10:54:31 amThere is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league. Very harsh to suggest seaman has massively underachieved this season. Knoyle has already proven to be amongst the best players in league 2 and he was outstanding yesterday. Those players are all proven very good players for this level and would comfortably be amongst the best players in league 2
Quote from: dickos1 on January 16, 2022, 02:19:51 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 16, 2022, 10:54:31 amThere is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league. Very harsh to suggest seaman has massively underachieved this season. Knoyle has already proven to be amongst the best players in league 2 and he was outstanding yesterday. Those players are all proven very good players for this level and would comfortably be amongst the best players in league 2While that may be true on paper dickos the fact is losing is a habit the same as winning. Our players have forgotten how to win. That was proved in the Morecambe game and then not even looking remotely interested in the Fleetwood game. A must win game. We need to get a winning mentality back well before this season ends. Going into next season with the same losing mentality we have now will not get us far in league 2 or any league. Ability is one thing, the right mentality is another. Success only comes from having both. In fact the latter is probably more important.
Quote from: Campsall rover on January 16, 2022, 08:17:35 pmQuote from: dickos1 on January 16, 2022, 02:19:51 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 16, 2022, 10:54:31 amThere is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league. Very harsh to suggest seaman has massively underachieved this season. Knoyle has already proven to be amongst the best players in league 2 and he was outstanding yesterday. Those players are all proven very good players for this level and would comfortably be amongst the best players in league 2While that may be true on paper dickos the fact is losing is a habit the same as winning. Our players have forgotten how to win. That was proved in the Morecambe game and then not even looking remotely interested in the Fleetwood game. A must win game. We need to get a winning mentality back well before this season ends. Going into next season with the same losing mentality we have now will not get us far in league 2 or any league. Ability is one thing, the right mentality is another. Success only comes from having both. In fact the latter is probably more important. I imagine you wrote a post identical to this the last time we ended up in league 2 and I can vividly remember you saying we had more chance of leaving league 2 out the relegation door than we did winning promotion. We went on to achieve probably Our most comfortable promotion in our history. So rather than torturing yourself again by being so unreasonably negative why don%u2019t you try a different approach this time
Quote from: dickos1 on January 16, 2022, 02:19:51 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 16, 2022, 10:54:31 amThere is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league. Very harsh to suggest seaman has massively underachieved this season. Knoyle has already proven to be amongst the best players in league 2 and he was outstanding yesterday. Those players are all proven very good players for this level and would comfortably be amongst the best players in league 2While that may be true on paper dickos the fact is losing is a habit the same as winning. Our players have forgotten how to win. That was proved in the Morecambe game and then not even looking remotely interested in the Fleetwood game. A must win game. We need to get a winning mentality back well before this season ends. Going into next season with the same losing mentality we have now will not get us far in league 2 or any league. Ability is one thing, the right mentality is another. Success only comes from having both. In fact the latter is probably more important.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on January 16, 2022, 10:54:31 amThere is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league. Very harsh to suggest seaman has massively underachieved this season. Knoyle has already proven to be amongst the best players in league 2 and he was outstanding yesterday. Those players are all proven very good players for this level and would comfortably be amongst the best players in league 2
There is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league.
A different approach?Why? Will this change results on the pitch?Quick, someone give Uri Geller a call. His positive thinking techniques can ensure that our strikers can score more than 1 goal each in the second half of the season. If only we had the same resilience and determination as Derby.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 16, 2022, 08:26:04 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on January 16, 2022, 08:17:35 pmQuote from: dickos1 on January 16, 2022, 02:19:51 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 16, 2022, 10:54:31 amThere is some truth there but of those, Anderson and John are out of contract this summer and you would think the chances of them re-signing are low. Then Taylor and Fejiri will effectively have not played football for over a year, so who knows what state they will be in. We only know what we know and the only senior players contracted to be with us next season as it stands are Agard, Rowe, Taylor, Hiwula, Dodoo, Knoyle, Ro-Shaun, Seaman and Close. Nobody seems to know score with Fejiri, as to whether we have an option or not this summer. That is a group of players who Rowe aside, have massively underperformed in League One and on the basis of their performances this season, will struggle in League Two, whatever their past careers might suggest.It's a steep hill we have to climb this summer yet again, putting a squad together than can both shed the seemingly deeply ingrained mindset of being losers, to both winning and adapting to new colleagues and a new league. Very harsh to suggest seaman has massively underachieved this season. Knoyle has already proven to be amongst the best players in league 2 and he was outstanding yesterday. Those players are all proven very good players for this level and would comfortably be amongst the best players in league 2While that may be true on paper dickos the fact is losing is a habit the same as winning. Our players have forgotten how to win. That was proved in the Morecambe game and then not even looking remotely interested in the Fleetwood game. A must win game. We need to get a winning mentality back well before this season ends. Going into next season with the same losing mentality we have now will not get us far in league 2 or any league. Ability is one thing, the right mentality is another. Success only comes from having both. In fact the latter is probably more important. I imagine you wrote a post identical to this the last time we ended up in league 2 and I can vividly remember you saying we had more chance of leaving league 2 out the relegation door than we did winning promotion. We went on to achieve probably Our most comfortable promotion in our history. So rather than torturing yourself again by being so unreasonably negative why don%u2019t you try a different approach this timeOh dear, Dickos you are making things up. Show me the post where I said that. Now it seems you are getting back to your old ways. Trying to create a pointless argument. You carry on believing what you want. You will never accept what anyone else thinks.
Bit like me then. My thoughts exactly about GM and league 2.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on January 16, 2022, 09:35:59 pmBit like me then. My thoughts exactly about GM and league 2. Exactly but he proved them wrongSo hopefully GM will prove u wrong
Quote from: colincramb on January 15, 2022, 05:51:58 pmHow many of the current squad will stick around for league 2? I’m thinking particularly about our ‘better’ players/bigger earners. So;AndersonOlowuRoweBostockCloseBarlowBogleKnoyle??Ferji TaylorThere might be a few more I’ve forgot about because they’ve been out so long. But that’s 10 players there i’m not sure would be up for barrow away next year. Another big rebuild ahead by the looks of it.Anderson. Out of contractOlowu. ContractedRowe. ContractedBostock. Out of contractClose. ContractedBarlow. Out of contractBogle. Out of contractKnoyle?? ContractedFej. Out of contractTaylor. ContractedJohn. Out of contractWilliams Ro ContractedGardner. Out of contractDodoo. ContractedHiwula. ContractedJones. Out of contractAgard. ContractedRavenhill. ContractedSo there’s 10 contracted players
How many of the current squad will stick around for league 2? I’m thinking particularly about our ‘better’ players/bigger earners. So;AndersonOlowuRoweBostockCloseBarlowBogleKnoyle??Ferji TaylorThere might be a few more I’ve forgot about because they’ve been out so long. But that’s 10 players there i’m not sure would be up for barrow away next year. Another big rebuild ahead by the looks of it.