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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: raggytash on July 11, 2018, 06:52:38 pm
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What’s going off here??? Nearly every 1st team member as gone, and from what I can gather are close to folding.... disgrace if that happens
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Go to many of their games, do you?
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Go to many of their games, do you?
Do you ?
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Go to many of their games, do you?
Do you ?
No, but then I'm not the one ranting about it being a disgrace.
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The ladies game has grown, and moved on, unfortunately they have been left behind.
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The ladies game has grown, and moved on, unfortunately they have been left behind.
No the ladies game is now a play thing for rich clubs and the corrupt FA
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Go to many of their games, do you?
What you on about? It's not good is it !!!
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great shame for the Belles, but its all about money now and they can`t compete.
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Go to many of their games, do you?
I’ve not been to a Belles game in years but I’m concerned about what’s going on. Should I not be allowed to be?
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Go to many of their games, do you?
I’ve not been to a Belles game in years but I’m concerned about what’s going on. Should I not be allowed to be?
I don't want anything bad to happen to the Belles either, I never said I did. I'm getting fed up of the OP using the Belles for yet another rant about something being a 'disgrace' when I'd be very surprised if he gives a f**k for them at all.
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I think you're being overly critical of the OP, Glyn.
I read the post as it being a disgrace if the Belles were to fold, and I certainly empathise with that. And that would be a disgrace that the FA has manipulated the women's game to suit the big money men's teams at the expense of the pioneering women's sides.
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I think you're being overly critical of the OP, Glyn.
I read the post as it being a disgrace if the Belles were to fold, and I certainly empathise with that. And that would be a disgrace that the FA has manipulated the women's game to suit the big money men's teams at the expense of the pioneering women's sides.
Possibly, but the pattern of his posting is well established. I was only surprised he hasn't already used it as a stick to beat the Board with.
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A big problem has been that the women's game is getting more popular and the FA have egotistically decided it is primarily down to their changes. Whilst the changes may have some effect, there are other factors more important.
The Belles are being challenged over recent times with a series of effects from the FA's determined plan. This season showed how they can rise above that and I'm sure they will again. Keep the club ethos, keep the identity that's steeped in history, fight, and good will come.
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Mystery over... Belles have just announced they’re taking voluntary relegation and dropping to the National League (third tier).
Completely understandable in circumstances, but a crying shame
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What happened to them joining Club Doncaster?
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Dons were next.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Dons were next.
Based on what?
Confirmed you are a WUM.
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Mystery over... Belles have just announced they’re taking voluntary relegation and dropping to the National League (third tier).
Completely understandable in circumstances, but a crying shame
It really is awful, this. The FA has just ruined one of the greatest clubs in women's football history. It makes me quite angry and I hate that we can't really do anything about it.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Dons were next.
Based on what?
Confirmed you are a WUM.
Based on the fact (oops wrong word) that they seem to be perennial strugglers and hardly anybody in Doncaster watches them.
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back to the Belles, the league management will be glad to get rid of them so they can promote Crystal Palace.
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What is happening to the belles is a fxxxing disgrace. Once the best team in England Stuffed up and relegated They should be part of club doncaster Isn’t that what it’s about making doncaster somewhere to be proud of. The way the belles are being excluded is a travesty. We should all be angry and upset
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Now today the new Man Utd team announce their whole squad including two regular England internationals. We know this is the way it's been going in the women's game and the powers that be have got their wish.
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Mystery over... Belles have just announced they’re taking voluntary relegation and dropping to the National League (third tier).
Completely understandable in circumstances, but a crying shame
It really is awful, this. The FA has just ruined one of the greatest clubs in women's football history. It makes me quite angry and I hate that we can't really do anything about it.
Disgusted can i please have a refund on all those golden goals tickets i purchased :rolleyes:
remember they are the equivalent to the Notts County of womens football (oldest club)
perhaps we can have a documentary about their demize like the Dons
must be some womens activist website could sponsor the originalis womens football team
mums net etc -- dont ask dont get
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raffytash, you should have known Glyn_Wigley would destroy any intelligent comments in this thread. I think he is trying to drive everyone else off. He shows what a joke the VSC has become.
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The Belles have been a great ambassador for Doncaster in women's football. Whether or not we have been to the games they have raised the profile of Doncaster and women's football. The current situation is not doing either any good. I would have thought that was stating the obvious, but obviously not to some.
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raffytash, you should have known Glyn_Wigley would destroy any intelligent comments in this thread.
raggytash has nothing to fear then
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I’ve no issue with anyone, but they clearly asked club Doncaster for help and guidance... theve got not where, Dons are running level through sponsorship etc, club Doncaster again doing nothing, it’s obvious through fergies actions and the signings so far and reluctance to buy grant, something is clearly not right... if club Doncaster are that good why not back the belles??? The dons are static like they were year 5 year ago..... rovers have gone nowhere , it’s about time the board tell the truth or put up, if not sell up...
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I think you're being overly critical of the OP, Glyn.
I read the post as it being a disgrace if the Belles were to fold, and I certainly empathise with that. And that would be a disgrace that the FA has manipulated the women's game to suit the big money men's teams at the expense of the pioneering women's sides.
Possibly, but the pattern of his posting is well established. I was only surprised he hasn't already used it as a stick to beat the Board with.
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You do realise that Club Doncaster can't force the Belles owners to sell to them don't you?
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Yes but they asked to be included in the club Doncaster set up and were palmed off, ask anyone at the dons there the same...
This board are a joke and until people wake up it’ll get worse.....
They’ve no intention of championship football whatsoever, if we had owners such as Fleetwood or Peterborough we’d be laughing, even Swann at scunny, so there was a five year plan for championship football??? Are you seriously kidding me??? It’s never happening and there’s less money.... for all those who disagree please show me where it’s gone??? Sooner this lot go the better....
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How can the Dons be the same when they ARE part of Club Doncaster?
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Hi raggy,
Hows your relationship with the Irish consortium these days? Did you ever get what you were promised?
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They've never asked to join Club Doncaster though have they? happy to be proven wrong but I don't remember that. As for the rest of the post, you've been posting the same shite for years so I'm not going to waste my time responding to that tripe.
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Do the people of Doncaster have no pride in either their men's or women's football teams as it's clear they are not prepared to fight for either and just accept the inevitable. The Belles have gone down, and I will not be surprised if Rovers do as well at the end of the season. Just follow the bookies and see where they put us. Top 6 you are a joke!
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SM the belles openly asked drfc and club Doncaster about merging but were told no, do you know how much they were charged for using the pitch???? It’s disgusting mate.
Do you know they wrote to kirkham asking him if hewas interested in helping or did or could he put them in touch with anyone who he knew who might be interested, they got a letter back with one word... no!! What a w**ker ..
It’s completely my opinion I think this board are passed there sell by date there’s no ambition or investment whatsoever there going to look very silly when there 5 year plan is nowhere near... so if there is ambition and investment why did Fergie go????
If some of the top earners went, and our average gate was well over what GB said was break even, and apparently our budgets bigger, where’s it going????? Grant wants to come but Baldwin pulled the plug after agreeing a fee???
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Hi raggy,
Hows your relationship with the Irish consortium these days? Did you ever get what you were promised?
how's that got any relevance to what he's saying ?
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Anyone got a list of names of people that want to takeover drfc and give us 3 million a year as it seems now that's what we need minimum 2 million to cover normal losses plus the extra million for players or maybe more, cause I don't see anyone asking or wanting to buy our club so maybe the people who want the board gone must know them.
For me it's simple until this board put the club in jeopardy I.e not paying bills and having embargoes put on us then they are ok to continue for me.
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Just my opinion mate and stating facts, it’s a shame some people don’t like facts.... I can’t remember the last time we made a signing were supporters think.... fk me we mean business!! It’s turning into the same old.... scrape the barrel and cut costs wherever possible.....
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Just my opinion mate and stating facts, it’s a shame some people don’t like facts.... I can’t remember the last time we made a signing were supporters think.... fk me we mean business!! It’s turning into the same old.... scrape the barrel and cut costs wherever possible.....
Think it was probably billy Sharp, incidentally when john ryan was still here
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....and off we go down the time tunnel.
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They've never asked to join Club Doncaster though have they? happy to be proven wrong but I don't remember that. As for the rest of the post, you've been posting the same shite for years so I'm not going to waste my time responding to that tripe.
Going from what I saw on the Lygo's Twitter a couple of month ago there was some talk, not sure if it was part of Club Doncaster or just a closer relationship.
And found this.
Doncaster Rovers Belles: WSL 2 champions discuss integration into Club Doncaster - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44195465 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44195465)
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What's wrong with the time tunnel? They were happy days having fought our way from oblivion into the Championship and John Ryan's face smiling at every victory.
What do we have to look forward to? Certainly League Two is more likely than the Championship based on the players we currently have.
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Hi raggy,
Hows your relationship with the Irish consortium these days? Did you ever get what you were promised?
how's that got any relevance to what he's saying ?
All the relevance in the world.
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Just my opinion mate and stating facts, it’s a shame some people don’t like facts.... I can’t remember the last time we made a signing were supporters think.... fk me we mean business!! It’s turning into the same old.... scrape the barrel and cut costs wherever possible.....
Think it was probably billy Sharp, incidentally when john ryan was still here
And who's money brought in Billy Sharp?
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Hi raggy,
Hows your relationship with the Irish consortium these days? Did you ever get what you were promised?
how's that got any relevance to what he's saying ?
All the relevance in the world.
can you elaborate ?
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At every meet-the-owners meeting the board will admit they are businessmen and not football fans. The only football fans we had were John Ryan and Dick Watson. Both have now gone, and naturally Dick's shares have gone to Andrew but that does not mean Andrew is as committed to the club or as much of as fan as his dad was.
So the board has lost the passion for football and we are left with the businessmen.
Sure we are unlikely to go into liquidation, but if the businessmen can still making money out of Rovers in League Two why should they care?
No doubt you will castigate my comments. I don't care because plenty of fans (loyal to DRFC and not the board, manager or players) out there will know I am right.
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Hi raggy,
Hows your relationship with the Irish consortium these days? Did you ever get what you were promised?
how's that got any relevance to what he's saying ?
All the relevance in the world.
can you elaborate ?
Look, if you don't get it you never will.
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Just my opinion mate and stating facts, it’s a shame some people don’t like facts.... I can’t remember the last time we made a signing were supporters think.... fk me we mean business!! It’s turning into the same old.... scrape the barrel and cut costs wherever possible.....
Think it was probably billy Sharp, incidentally when john ryan was still here
And who's money brought in Billy Sharp?
we both know.
But it wasn't like JR held a gun to every board members head and forced the signing of sharp was it?
it was a collective decision, helped along with the enthusiasm, leadership and ambition of JR.
Now we no longer have that, at the very best the club is just about treading water.
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Hi raggy,
Hows your relationship with the Irish consortium these days? Did you ever get what you were promised?
how's that got any relevance to what he's saying ?
All the relevance in the world.
can you elaborate ?
Look, if you don't get it you never will.
ah ok, thought you might bring more insight to that saga, but your not...
like I said that saga has no relevance to what's going on NOW.
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JR's passion is what got us where we were at the pinnacle of history in my life time. Who has the passion now to get us there again? Blunt, Watson, Bramall, Baldwin? I don't see it. All I see is pound signs ringing in their eyes.
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What's wrong with the time tunnel? They were happy days having fought our way from oblivion into the Championship and John Ryan's face smiling at every victory.
What do we have to look forward to? Certainly League Two is more likely than the Championship based on the players we currently have.
Zero chance of getting a bite out of me 'Michael', but feel free to keep having a go, obviously.
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Just my opinion mate and stating facts, it’s a shame some people don’t like facts.... I can’t remember the last time we made a signing were supporters think.... fk me we mean business!! It’s turning into the same old.... scrape the barrel and cut costs wherever possible.....
Think it was probably billy Sharp, incidentally when john ryan was still here
And who's money brought in Billy Sharp?
we both know.
But it wasn't like JR held a gun to every board members head and forced the signing of sharp was it?
it was a collective decision, helped along with the enthusiasm, leadership and ambition of JR.
Now we no longer have that, at the very best the club is just about treading water.
It's easy to be ambitious with other peoples money.
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JR's passion is what got us where we were at the pinnacle of history in my life time. Who has the passion now to get us there again? Blunt, Watson, Bramall, Baldwin? I don't see it. All I see is pound signs ringing in their eyes.
These are the £ signs as they keep parting with the money to keep us in our current and excellent health I take it?
Not sure what passion has to do with anything either, how many other clubs are led by passionate Chairmen? I doubt if there's any.
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Who's money is it? Is it not the fans that buy the kit, and the fans who pay for season tickets, and the fans that go to the matches? But are not expected to have any say because the board and VSC are always right.
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Who's money is it? Is it not the fans that buy the kit, and the fans who pay for season tickets, and the fans that go to the matches? But are not expected to have any say because the board and VSC are always right.
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I think you need some new material.
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Do you really belief that the club is financially supported only by the board and not the fans? You're crazy.
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Who's money is it? Is it not the fans that buy the kit, and the fans who pay for season tickets, and the fans that go to the matches? But are not expected to have any say because the board and VSC are always right.
The fans aren't plugging the £2m deficit that we operate under every year are they?
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
Good luck with that.
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So the club doesn't need the fans money. Fans take note.
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Do you really belief that the club is financially supported only by the board and not the fans? You're crazy.
Nope, that's not going to get a bite.
Maybe if you took a run up?
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Just my opinion mate and stating facts, it’s a shame some people don’t like facts.... I can’t remember the last time we made a signing were supporters think.... fk me we mean business!! It’s turning into the same old.... scrape the barrel and cut costs wherever possible.....
Think it was probably billy Sharp, incidentally when john ryan was still here
And who's money brought in Billy Sharp?
we both know.
But it wasn't like JR held a gun to every board members head and forced the signing of sharp was it?
it was a collective decision, helped along with the enthusiasm, leadership and ambition of JR.
Now we no longer have that, at the very best the club is just about treading water.
It's easy to be ambitious with other peoples money.
aye, who would have thought a chairman of a board to have ambition!
it was still a collective decision, that required ambition.
something we now sorely lack, this club HAS gone backwards since JR left.
there's no GENUINE ambition, drive or direction.
Just apparent apathy.
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SM, you are a deluded as Donald Trump.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
What message would they send? We want you to spend more money of yours on our club every year than the 2 million we unthankfully receive yearly.
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SM - it's worth remembering that John Ryan put a huge amount of his own money into the Rovers for years before the KM2 came on board, a far higher proportion of his personal fortune than anyone else has put in. His money just couldn't go far enough once we got to the top end of League One.
Why does it so often come to this though? It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone or Groundhog Day. On one side certain posters harking back to how amazing John Ryan was through tinted specs, and then certain others sniping about him in response. I think I'd rather read page after page about the budget...
Mind you I'm just as bad given my opening comment here.
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Who's money is it? Is it not the fans that buy the kit, and the fans who pay for season tickets, and the fans that go to the matches? But are not expected to have any say because the board and VSC are always right.
The fans aren't plugging the £2m deficit that we operate under every year are they?
So how come the vsc are sponsoring the youth team?
that speaks volumes.
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Ok let's look forward instead of the happy Championship days. The first 6 games we have are Southend, Wycombe, Burton, Shrewsbury, Portsmouth and Peterborough. I'll guess at 6 points max from those games and you can quote me.
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Ok let's look forward instead of the happy Championship days. The first 6 games we have are Southend, Wycombe, Burton, Shrewsbury, Portsmouth and Peterborough. I'll guess at 6 points max from those games and you can quote me.
Ta.
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SM - it's worth remembering that John Ryan put a huge amount of his own money into the Rovers for years before the KM2 came on board, a far higher proportion of his personal fortune than anyone else has put in. His money just couldn't go far enough once we got to the top end of League One.
Why does it so often come to this though? It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone or Groundhog Day. On one side certain posters harking back to how amazing John Ryan was through tinted specs, and then certain others sniping about him in response. I think I'd rather read page after page about the budget...
Mind you I'm just as bad given my opening comment here.
You'll have to forgive me, I can't see where I mentioned John Ryan at all.
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Fans won't spend more money at the club, they will spend less if they feel there is no sincere drive and ambition in the club backed up by players that are to the job. Fans can't be expected to go and watch us lose. If they need another 1,00 fans through the door to break even then don't bring in castoffs, drunks and addicts. We averaged a little over 8,000 at home last season I expect it will be nearer 7,000 next season if we don't get off to a better start than 6 points from 6 games.
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The first 6 games will set the tone for the season (even McCann has said that himself). Look again - Southend, Wycombe, Burton, Shrewsbury, Portsmouth and Peterborough .... Only Wycombe is a likely win.
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SM - it's worth remembering that John Ryan put a huge amount of his own money into the Rovers for years before the KM2 came on board, a far higher proportion of his personal fortune than anyone else has put in. His money just couldn't go far enough once we got to the top end of League One.
Why does it so often come to this though? It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone or Groundhog Day. On one side certain posters harking back to how amazing John Ryan was through tinted specs, and then certain others sniping about him in response. I think I'd rather read page after page about the budget...
Mind you I'm just as bad given my opening comment here.
You'll have to forgive me, I can't see where I mentioned John Ryan at all.
you did in a roundabout way. more thinly veiled criticism for him.
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SM - it's worth remembering that John Ryan put a huge amount of his own money into the Rovers for years before the KM2 came on board, a far higher proportion of his personal fortune than anyone else has put in. His money just couldn't go far enough once we got to the top end of League One.
Why does it so often come to this though? It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone or Groundhog Day. On one side certain posters harking back to how amazing John Ryan was through tinted specs, and then certain others sniping about him in response. I think I'd rather read page after page about the budget...
Mind you I'm just as bad given my opening comment here.
You'll have to forgive me, I can't see where I mentioned John Ryan at all.
you do in a roundabout way. more thinly veiled criticism for him.
I don't have to thinly veil anything. If I wish to be critical of the man I will do.
But you keep sucking up to him, it suits you.
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Fans won't spend more money at the club, they will spend less if they feel there is no sincere drive and ambition in the club backed up by players that are to the job. Fans can't be expected to go and watch us lose. If they need another 1,00 fans through the door to break even then don't bring in castoffs, drunks and addicts. We averaged a little over 8,000 at home last season I expect it will be nearer 7,000 next season if we don't get off to a better start than 6 points from 6 games.
Attendances you say....
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vaya, I am proud of you. You have progressed from 1 word in your last post to 3 in this one. Even a one year old can string together more than that.
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SM - it's worth remembering that John Ryan put a huge amount of his own money into the Rovers for years before the KM2 came on board, a far higher proportion of his personal fortune than anyone else has put in. His money just couldn't go far enough once we got to the top end of League One.
Why does it so often come to this though? It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone or Groundhog Day. On one side certain posters harking back to how amazing John Ryan was through tinted specs, and then certain others sniping about him in response. I think I'd rather read page after page about the budget...
Mind you I'm just as bad given my opening comment here.
You'll have to forgive me, I can't see where I mentioned John Ryan at all.
you do in a roundabout way. more thinly veiled criticism for him.
I don't have to thinly veil anything. If I wish to be critical of the man I will do.
But you keep sucking up to him, it suits you.
please, criticise away .....
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vaya, I am proud of you. You have progressed from 1 word in your last post to 3 in this one. Even a one year old can string together more than that.
Nope, still not going to work.
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6, wow you're improving.
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6, wow you're improving.
And you're just proving my point every time you reply.
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Michael Shaw you speak sense mate, remember half of the people on here are like the masons mate....
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At every meet-the-owners meeting the board will admit they are businessmen and not football fans. The only football fans we had were John Ryan and Dick Watson. Both have now gone, and naturally Dick's shares have gone to Andrew but that does not mean Andrew is as committed to the club or as much of as fan as his dad was.
So the board has lost the passion for football and we are left with the businessmen.
Sure we are unlikely to go into liquidation, but if the businessmen can still making money out of Rovers in League Two why should they care?
No doubt you will castigate my comments. I don't care because plenty of fans (loyal to DRFC and not the board, manager or players) out there will know I am right.
How much money are the businessmen making out of Rovers? I thought it was the other way round.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
There's the Doncaster Rovers Supporters' Group.
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Fans won't spend more money at the club, they will spend less if they feel there is no sincere drive and ambition in the club backed up by players that are to the job. Fans can't be expected to go and watch us lose. If they need another 1,00 fans through the door to break even then don't bring in castoffs, drunks and addicts. We averaged a little over 8,000 at home last season I expect it will be nearer 7,000 next season if we don't get off to a better start than 6 points from 6 games.
Attendances you say....
It isn't him, is it? :laugh:
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Fans won't spend more money at the club, they will spend less if they feel there is no sincere drive and ambition in the club backed up by players that are to the job. Fans can't be expected to go and watch us lose. If they need another 1,00 fans through the door to break even then don't bring in castoffs, drunks and addicts. We averaged a little over 8,000 at home last season I expect it will be nearer 7,000 next season if we don't get off to a better start than 6 points from 6 games.
Attendances you say....
It isn't him, is it? :laugh:
It's definitely somebody. Possibly a case for Saunders PI.
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I doubt if anyone interested in reading about Bellrs will get hear sonce there has been a huge diversio' on the thread but ..Belles decision is wise .They opt out of the FA strategy for the womens' game to clone that of the men .. heavy money from the big club names.
I hope Belles will become a Club Doncaster full member and run a Donny only Community club developing players from the Donny region only releasing them to the Premiership when ready.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
Off you go then.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
There's the Doncaster Rovers Supporters' Group.
Oh please...... Try and keep up to date.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
There's the Doncaster Rovers Supporters' Group.
Oh please...... Try and keep up to date.
I haven't been following them, but I thought they were next big thing among dissastisfied Rovers fans?
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You can't really judge how many points we will get out of them 6 games we might sign more players yet, you also don't no the quality of players the said 6 teams have made, wait till nearer time mate we might just do better than you think
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Fans won't spend more money at the club, they will spend less if they feel there is no sincere drive and ambition in the club backed up by players that are to the job. Fans can't be expected to go and watch us lose. If they need another 1,00 fans through the door to break even then don't bring in castoffs, drunks and addicts. We averaged a little over 8,000 at home last season I expect it will be nearer 7,000 next season if we don't get off to a better start than 6 points from 6 games.
The attendance last year was the best we've had at this level for many years. That's progress, and it's this board that have overseen that. That's a fact.
Whilst I understand your anxiety, that's part of being a footy fan and fine for you to express that, but let's keep it in perspective and not lump on the negative. We can see what comes :scarf:
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I see the village idiots are all out in force early this season.
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'Wow, the Belles thread is up to four pages, great to see so many people showing an interest in the future of women's football in the town'
*clicks into thread*
'Oh'.
'Oh dear'.
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They've never asked to join Club Doncaster though have they? happy to be proven wrong but I don't remember that. As for the rest of the post, you've been posting the same shite for years so I'm not going to waste my time responding to that tripe.
The Belles have been in conversation with Club Doncaster for over 18 months and, until A couple of months a go, still hadn’t had an answer either way.
The issue is that even if Club Doncaster made a decision and backed the Belles it’s tough to be in the league. The FA specifically stated to Belles that to be in the top tier you need to meet their criteria of X cash in the bank. No value in kind or other partnerships. Cold, hard cash.
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They've never asked to join Club Doncaster though have they? happy to be proven wrong but I don't remember that. As for the rest of the post, you've been posting the same shite for years so I'm not going to waste my time responding to that tripe.
The Belles have been in conversation with Club Doncaster for over 18 months and, until A couple of months a go, still hadn’t had an answer either way.
The issue is that even if Club Doncaster made a decision and backed the Belles it’s tough to be in the league. The FA specifically stated to Belles that to be in the top tier you need to meet their criteria of X cash in the bank. No value in kind or other partnerships. Cold, hard cash.
But at least being in Club Doncaster would help them not look at threat of going under or have to sell off their whole team. They'd surely be at least a second tier team under Club Doncaster.
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Yes but they asked to be included in the club Doncaster set up and were palmed off, ask anyone at the dons there the same...
This board are a joke and until people wake up it’ll get worse.....
They’ve no intention of championship football whatsoever, if we had owners such as Fleetwood or Peterborough we’d be laughing, even Swann at scunny, so there was a five year plan for championship football??? Are you seriously kidding me??? It’s never happening and there’s less money.... for all those who disagree please show me where it’s gone??? Sooner this lot go the better....
Nice one Raggtash, somebody informs us that the Board have virtually no control of the Belles, i.e. current owners won't sell,so you launch your usual purile attack on our Board 😂😂😂
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Yes but they asked to be included in the club Doncaster set up and were palmed off, ask anyone at the dons there the same...
This board are a joke and until people wake up it’ll get worse.....
They’ve no intention of championship football whatsoever, if we had owners such as Fleetwood or Peterborough we’d be laughing, even Swann at scunny, so there was a five year plan for championship football??? Are you seriously kidding me??? It’s never happening and there’s less money.... for all those who disagree please show me where it’s gone??? Sooner this lot go the better....
Nice one Raggtash, somebody informs us that the Board have virtually no control of the Belles, i.e. current owners won't sell,so you launch your usual purile attack on our Board 😂😂😂
Current owners won’t sell? I’ve just said that the Belles have been trying to get involved with Club Doncaster for 18 months or so...
Not attacking the Rovers board but just picking up your point saying Belles owners/board won’t sell which isn’t true.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
If i was to give you one bit of advise its don't bother.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
If i was to give you one bit of advise its don't bother.
I will counter this as it’s been stated more often than enough that this forum isn’t the VSC a fact you well know Wes, feel free to set up something you feel reflects the feeling of Rovers fans, like we’d did, hows that working out by the way?
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I'm not sure you're reading my post correctly DVR. My advise is based on the fact it's a proper slog, you'll end up hating the club and that certain areas of the club hold nothing but contempt for the idea of fan movements (Not the board, Gavin or anyone else at the highest order before anyone pipes up).
As was often stated at the time, the forum isn't the VSC but is where you'll find the bulk of its members, where its advertised and is used as it's mouthpiece. The effect of things posted on here, can and did have an effect on the perception of the VSC.
In terms of our short lived time with Rovers, it worked out perfectly well, it garnered a bigger membership than the VSC in less than a year, led to numerous actually successful crowdfunders (watch and learn John Ryan) and until it became clear we actually couldn't be arsed to put the time in it required, we successfully maintained the Black Bank (though I still think the club hold a fair bit of responsibility for its collapse though thats a story for another day). We never set out to do it in the long run, I barely got to games when it was going on due to work commitments and it eats away at any spare time you do have.
While I don't agree with Martin on most things, I certainly learnt to respect the effort it takes to do what he does.
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To be honest with the financial burden and little gain back I don’t blame the board for not taking it on..... that’s correct I don’t blame the board!! But I’m suprised some businesses haven’t jumped on it, the women’s game is flourishing and belles get 600-1000 which is better than most wsl1 teams. However the belles are charged stupid amounts for the use of the pitch and it’s no wonder there doomed..
But on the same narrative the lygos who said they’d do this and that have done fk all, so it’s a shame that money rules a once great club.
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I'm not sure you're reading my post correctly DVR. My advise is based on the fact it's a proper slog, you'll end up hating the club and that certain areas of the club hold nothing but contempt for the idea of fan movements (Not the board, Gavin or anyone else at the highest order before anyone pipes up).
As was often stated at the time, the forum isn't the VSC but is where you'll find the bulk of its members, where its advertised and is used as it's mouthpiece. The effect of things posted on here, can and did have an effect on the perception of the VSC.
In terms of our short lived time with Rovers, it worked out perfectly well, it garnered a bigger membership than the VSC in less than a year, led to numerous actually successful crowdfunders (watch and learn John Ryan) and until it became clear we actually couldn't be arsed to put the time in it required, we successfully maintained the Black Bank (though I still think the club hold a fair bit of responsibility for its collapse though thats a story for another day). We never set out to do it in the long run, I barely got to games when it was going on due to work commitments and it eats away at any spare time you do have.
While I don't agree with Martin on most things, I certainly learnt to respect the effort it takes to do what he does.
If I misread then apologies but I’m sure you can appreciate how tiresome some of the comments are. I also appreciate the interest garnered was significant but it didn’t last because that takes time and selfless work which doesn’t appear to be in the psychie of people today.
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To be honest with the financial burden and little gain back I don’t blame the board for not taking it on..... that’s correct I don’t blame the board!! But I’m suprised some businesses haven’t jumped on it, the women’s game is flourishing and belles get 600-1000 which is better than most wsl1 teams. However the belles are charged stupid amounts for the use of the pitch and it’s no wonder there doomed..
But on the same narrative the lygos who said they’d do this and that have done fk all, so it’s a shame that money rules a once great club.
How much are they charged to use the pitch?
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To be honest with the financial burden and little gain back I don’t blame the board for not taking it on..... that’s correct I don’t blame the board!! But I’m suprised some businesses haven’t jumped on it, the women’s game is flourishing and belles get 600-1000 which is better than most wsl1 teams. However the belles are charged stupid amounts for the use of the pitch and it’s no wonder there doomed..
But on the same narrative the lygos who said they’d do this and that have done fk all, so it’s a shame that money rules a once great club.
Done f**k all?
You have absolutely no idea how much out of their own back pocket they’ve put into the Belles just to keep it afloat from when they came in in 2013. We wouldn’t be having this conversation now if they hadn’t come in because the Belles had significant debts.
Faye Lygo has worked tirelessly to keep the club moving but with no outside interest in sponsorship and rising costs from the FA they can’t do any more.
Yes some of the bigger plans didn’t come off but that’s through no fault of the Lygo’s. If the FA would just let the game grow naturally even slightly, then the Belles would be fine. Rising demands from the FA have meant they had to prioritise things to stay sustainable.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
I think we had that once, they had no passion or ambition to keep going 😜
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I have decided I no longer wish to be a Moderator of the forum and so I have stepped down. Please do not direct questions regarding how this place is moderated to me anymore. I'm sick of the Politicol stuff and I'm sick of the squabbles, I just want to support Doncaster Rovers.
Thank you everyone
A feeling we'll all be familiar with
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Politicol
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I have decided I no longer wish to be a Moderator of the forum and so I have stepped down. Please do not direct questions regarding how this place is moderated to me anymore. I'm sick of the Politicol stuff and I'm sick of the squabbles, I just want to support Doncaster Rovers.
Thank you everyone
A feeling we'll all be familiar with
Good to see you still think of me Wes, the difference here though is I have never been an officer of the VSC, just a forum moderator, simple as that really. You on the other hand.........
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Have also never been an officer of the VSC. Pleased thats all been cleared up.
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Have also never been an officer of the VSC. Pleased thats all been cleared up.
You know full well what I mean, but for clarification DRSG, the group that fizzled out as the passion and ambition was'nt there
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I think if i was to sum it up it was always set to be a flash reaction. I think we'd all agree now that our biggest regret was formalising it which was a knee jerk to Bob G (remember him) using the 'if you don't like what the VSC does, start your own' and came about the time that the trust had tried and not got cut through with atmosphere and while we still had the reigns we did the job of fixing it. The momentum never got carried forward as our time began to waiver.
I stand by that I don't regret it, our legacy will remain in the Stadium for many years to come and with the Tifo, Surfers, Banners and Flags alongside we gifted some of the few fan organised moments in the Keepmoat. It's certainly bulked out my CV. I hope moderating this website has done the same for you.
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"Key skills - got called a Kitson by some scrote online" :laugh:
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I think if i was to sum it up it was always set to be a flash reaction. I think we'd all agree now that our biggest regret was formalising it which was a knee jerk to Bob G (remember him) using the 'if you don't like what the VSC does, start your own' and came about the time that the trust had tried and not got cut through with atmosphere and while we still had the reigns we did the job of fixing it. The momentum never got carried forward as our time began to waiver.
I stand by that I don't regret it, our legacy will remain in the Stadium for many years to come and with the Tifo, Surfers, Banners and Flags alongside we gifted some of the few fan organised moments in the Keepmoat. It's certainly bulked out my CV. I hope moderating this website has done the same for you.
At my age and position in life, I don't need to impress anyone with a CV, but thanks anyway
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Can we get back on point about the belles
It's a huge shame what's happening to the belles, I remember the plans they announced for the training facilities sounded great and the perfect direction for the club unfortunately the F.A needed to kill off our club to make it easier to add the club's that paid their way to the top
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I got a letter from the bank today to tell me that the weekly standing order that I’d set up years ago after an appeal by the Belles had been cancelled.
Not a big amount by any means, but thought it a bit odd that they’d go to the trouble to cancel it.
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I got a letter from the bank today to tell me that the weekly standing order that I’d set up years ago after an appeal by the Belles had been cancelled.
Not a big amount by any means, but thought it a bit odd that they’d go to the trouble to cancel it.
Very strange. A new company forming perhaps?
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Could be something as simple as them changing their bank account..?
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Now playing at Rossington Mains ground and first game of the season lost 0-9 to Blackburn. They've gone from winning Div 1 and should have been promoted to being a team that's gonna get shit on every week.
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I got a letter from the bank today to tell me that the weekly standing order that I’d set up years ago after an appeal by the Belles had been cancelled.
Not a big amount by any means, but thought it a bit odd that they’d go to the trouble to cancel it.
Very strange. A new company forming perhaps?
I’ve also been paying a small monthly sum to the Belles for years, and although I’ve not had a letter from my bank, I have had last month’s payment returned to my account.
And the direct debit appears to have been cancelled.
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I think we need a new fans alliance for DRFC where the fans have a voice instead of a site that just pedals the party line driven by the board.
What message would they send? We want you to spend more money of yours on our club every year than the 2 million we unthankfully receive yearly.
there club they own us