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Title: Best player
Post by: roversdude on October 10, 2019, 05:55:54 pm
My little un has just asked me who the best player I’ve ever seen is overall
Followed by best player I’ve ever seen play for us, I was trying to think of one of the loanees we had from West Ham but I’m having a memory blank.
Love to hear others views
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: scawsby steve on October 10, 2019, 06:02:32 pm
Only us old 'uns can remember, but when we talk about Alick Jeffrey and Harry Gregg, we're talking world class.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: i_ateallthepies on October 10, 2019, 06:04:30 pm
Well, roversdude, I'm one of the few on here lucky enough to have enjoyed King Alick and Copps.  i love reading others recount their tales of Alick, I didn't see him for long enough unfortunately, I did see one of his infamous hatricks though and man, did he have a shot on him.
And whilst I don't doubt that had he not had the misfortune of his broken leg he would have risen higher than Copps has managed I can't help but say the skills I've been fortunate to watch Copps display makes him the best I have seen.  And, yes I watched Diuff but never got the thrill I get watching Copps.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Al4475 on October 10, 2019, 06:17:49 pm
Best overall in the flesh - cantona, Gascoigne and (gk bias) Peter schmeichel. Tho maldini, Zola and (here's the gk bias part 2) toldo (lucky enough to be around the Italy national squad based at our uni for euro 96) come close. Best for rovers - loved stock, Brevett, copps and (gk bias again) sulli. 
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: wilts rover on October 10, 2019, 06:21:54 pm
My favourite player will always be Peter Kitchen as I started watching Rovers in the early 70's but he best player is Ian Snodin.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: donnievic on October 10, 2019, 06:28:09 pm
Paul gascoigne for both lol
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: donnievic on October 10, 2019, 06:29:45 pm
My little un has just asked me who the best player I’ve ever seen is overall
Followed by best player I’ve ever seen play for us, I was trying to think of one of the loanees we had from West Ham but I’m having a memory blank.
Love to hear others views
john moncur or Williamson from West Ham
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 10, 2019, 07:08:55 pm
Danny Williamson.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Mark Lyall on October 10, 2019, 07:16:28 pm
Best in a Rovers shirt got to be Copps , having performed consistently for years and still turning in the performances that he does now , that man is a legend . Best ive seen play is  Kevin De Bruyne . His passing and vision is out of this world
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 10, 2019, 07:17:30 pm
Time plays tricks with memory but Kieron Brady. Wow.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 10, 2019, 07:19:09 pm
Copps, Wellens, Stock, McIndoe, Sharp in that order.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Muttley on October 10, 2019, 07:22:41 pm
Paul gascoigne for both lol

Gascoigne for the Rovers definitely!

Non-Rovers - Paolo di Canio when he was at Wednesday - things he could do with a ball was amazing

Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Rich_The_Conisbrough_Rover on October 10, 2019, 07:27:09 pm
Non Rovers - Cristiano Ronaldo

Rovers - Michael McIndoe / James Coppinger
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 10, 2019, 07:29:09 pm
Never once saw McIndoe have a bad game.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: donnievic on October 10, 2019, 07:32:12 pm
Time plays tricks with memory but Kieron Brady. Wow.
his goal at scunny wow
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Nudga on October 10, 2019, 07:32:30 pm
Kieran Brady, what a player he was.
That testimonial gazza played for Rovers in 89, he was a magician, a proper street footballer who played for fun.
Ronaldinho is one of the best I've ever seen.

Eddie Gormley was a bit Gazza esq if memory serves me right.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Barmby Rover on October 10, 2019, 07:41:13 pm
Alick for Rovers, Johnny Giles must be close though, very few midfielders had his ability for defence cutting passes.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: sheffield exile1 on October 10, 2019, 07:41:21 pm
Context- Division 4 Peter Kitchen, Conference desperate times - Steve Nicholl, back in the league MacIndoe, and of course Copps  for many a year. In between Mike Jeffrey, Colin Cramb, and possibly one of the best goals I was privilidged to watch, Darren Uttley's half way line Cardiff away....just so many memories...
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: IDM on October 10, 2019, 08:10:49 pm
At one point in time billy Bremner was one of the best players in Europe. By the time I saw him in a Rovers shirt he was past his best obviously.

I saw most of the first division players around 1988-1990 including the likes of John Barnes etc..

There are probably some outstanding players I have seen who I don’t remember seeing..

For Rovers I would say it’s between Copps and Young Snod..
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: elmsallrover on October 10, 2019, 08:15:53 pm
For me it as to be Messi for rovers Ian snodin, Wellens and kane
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 10, 2019, 08:56:09 pm
Billy Russell
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on October 10, 2019, 11:35:58 pm
I'm surprised no-one's mentioned El Hadj Diouf, even in passing. The lay-off he gave Billy Sharp for that goal was superb, and he was probably the only one of the 'experiment' who was a success.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: roversdude on October 11, 2019, 06:45:00 am
For what it’s worth after much thought my answer was Gazza overall. For Rovers I had to just throw a few in the mix Kitch, Ian Snodin, Steve Nicholl, McIndoe, Billy Sharpe and of course Copps
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: mushRTID on October 11, 2019, 06:51:49 am
Messi or Iniesta when I watched Barca.

Diouf or Wellens for us.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: idler on October 11, 2019, 07:29:05 am
King Alick for me but I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Tony Woodcock who was phemomanel for us in his loan spell.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: redarmy82 on October 11, 2019, 08:36:09 am
Diouf is by far the most talented player we've ever had.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Donnywolf on October 11, 2019, 08:36:54 am
King Alick for me but I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Tony Woodcock who was phemomanel for us in his loan spell.

Ha ha

Was reading this thread and got right to the bottom thinking nobody has mentioned Tony Woodcock and then bang there he was. Probably still best loan Player we ever had - went on to get 42 England Caps (I think)

Like to see Herbie get that many cos he was awesome as well
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: richtherover on October 11, 2019, 09:50:29 am
Best player I've seen in a Rovers shirt - Alick Jeffrey. Best player I've seen "represent" Rovers - George Best in John Nicholson's testimonial. Both just sublime talents.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: DRNaith on October 11, 2019, 11:24:40 am
Diouf is by far the most talented player we've ever had.
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I agree, best I've seen is El Haj Diouf
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: BradwellRover on October 11, 2019, 12:59:26 pm
For me the best DRFC player is Coppinger, although as above i’d give special mention to Steve Nicol, who was playing in a different dimension even though his legs had gone.

Best player, Gazza, totally amazing.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: chrisd_123 on October 11, 2019, 01:11:54 pm
Diouf is by far the most talented player we've ever had.

Agreed. In terms of talent Diouf is right up there. Was far too good for our side at the time. One bit of joy in a very joyless spell.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: southwestexile on October 11, 2019, 02:06:21 pm
Ronald de Boar in his prime could orchestrate a whole game. Saw him play against Wales (I know but they had some quality players in Hughes, Southall et al). De Boar outshone the whole Dutch team that day and they had some brilliant players.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: ravenrover on October 11, 2019, 02:53:06 pm
Has to be Alick for Rovers bit by far the most talented player I have ever seen live has to be George Best but I still detest MUtd
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: hamiltonrover on October 11, 2019, 06:47:42 pm
In 36 years, Herbie Kane between August and December last season is right up there. Others include Redfearn, Mike Jeffrey, Kieran Brady, Stock, Sharp, Andy Rhodes and of course Copps

Best ever in my time has to be Gazza


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Title: Re: Best player
Post by: mrfrostsdad on October 12, 2019, 08:07:26 am
I reckon it's almost impossible to compare sportsmen from one generation to an earlier one, especially football, because the game has changed so much. For that reason I would go with Ronaldo every day of the week.
Best Rovers player? Copps has done it for so long, I'd go with him. I did see Alick towards the end of his career, maybe 64ish, by which time he was slow and overweight. Still had a hell of a shot on him though
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Draytonian III on October 12, 2019, 11:36:38 am
Rovers - Ian Snodin , who if he had been fit all his career would have played for England and maybe even captained them .
Others - very difficult as I’ve seen loads of class players many of them past their best  Bremner ,Nichol, Southall,Newell 😉 but I did see Tony Currie and Chris Waddle in dee - dar land have superb matches.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Chris Black come back on October 12, 2019, 11:42:09 am
They are correctly:

Kieron Brady
Steve Nicol
Ronald de Boer
Billy Sharp
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: BiargeBob on October 12, 2019, 12:00:14 pm
King Alick for me, but Copps comes close.
 Mickie Elwis carried the team when he was here. All time favourite Tony Coleman.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on October 12, 2019, 12:46:09 pm
Ian Snodin is head and shoulders the best player we've had in my time. For those of you who are too young, imagine the passing of Brian Stock combined with the hardest tackling you've ever seen and leadership qualities to demand everyone else follows his lead.

And that was at 18 years old.

Best player I ever saw live. Gascoigne in Paul Malcolm's testimonial was utterly incredible. In a proper match, it would be Davor Suker in Euro96. A privilege to experience.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Nudga on October 12, 2019, 01:16:26 pm
Ian Snodin is head and shoulders the best player we've had in my time. For those of you who are too young, imagine the passing of Brian Stock combined with the hardest tackling you've ever seen and leadership qualities to demand everyone else follows his lead.

And that was at 18 years old.

Best player I ever saw live. Gascoigne in Paul Malcolm's testimonial was utterly incredible. In a proper match, it would be Davor Suker in Euro96. A privilege to experience.

BST, I've played against Ian Snodin and can vouch for the hardest tackle.
I have a nice stud shape scar on my right shin where Snods went through my shin pad.
It's the proudest scar I have.
He was around 35 at the time, I was in my early 20s and I was quite rapid.
Snods had no pace but I couldn't get near him because his reading of the game was out of this world.
He could make the ball do what ever he wanted and sprayed 40/50 yard missiles all over the pitch.

I used to love a battle and was a very aggressive player but again, Snods had this controlled aggression where I felt every single tackle, block or shoulder barge.

After the game I felt I'd been in a car accident, no exaggeration.

Not sure if he payed me lip service after the game but he thanked me for giving him a good work out and that I'd had a very good game.
He said he'd left Birmingham (I think) and was keeping himself fit in the hope he got a contract at Burnley.
The summer after, he was Donny manager.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Red wizard on October 12, 2019, 01:30:47 pm
They are correctly:

Kieron Brady
Steve Nicol
Ronald de Boer
Billy Sharp
I saw Brady when we had him on loan and I remember thinking how much better he was than anything I had seen before play for rovers. I was about 13 years old. Like some posters have pointed out you can't compare different generations as times have changed. Copps has to be the best anyone of us has seen for rovers. Pure class.
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: graingrover on October 13, 2019, 04:17:39 pm
Alick and Gregg ...agreed
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: OurAlfsLad on October 13, 2019, 10:52:41 pm
I have given this thread plenty of time so I could have a good read because Alick is the no.1 by far so I just wanted to read which others would be mentioned, being a big fan of Laurie sheffield and Rufus Brevit I was amazed by one player I thought was a class player for DRFC an d has not received a mention and that is Tony Coleman..... I sit back and take the abuse...
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: bradford exile on October 15, 2019, 10:09:46 am
For Rovers it has to be Alick, that little dip of the shoulders just before he was about to shoot, or the way he could go past a couple of defenders as if they weren't there. Closely (and very, very closely followed by copps) still the best hat trick from any player against Southend I can ever remember.

Other than Rovers it has to be Pele, saw him at Sheffield Weds in a friendly playing if I remember rightly for Santos in 1972.

Santos if I'm right were World Champions at the time

He was mesmerising that night,saw him send Springett and 20,000 on the kop the wrong way for the penalty.

Regards

Ray
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Pancho Regan on October 15, 2019, 01:10:49 pm
Ian Snodin is head and shoulders the best player we've had in my time. For those of you who are too young, imagine the passing of Brian Stock combined with the hardest tackling you've ever seen and leadership qualities to demand everyone else follows his lead.

And that was at 18 years old.

Best player I ever saw live. Gascoigne in Paul Malcolm's testimonial was utterly incredible. In a proper match, it would be Davor Suker in Euro96. A privilege to experience.

BST, I've played against Ian Snodin and can vouch for the hardest tackle.
I have a nice stud shape scar on my right shin where Snods went through my shin pad.
It's the proudest scar I have.
He was around 35 at the time, I was in my early 20s and I was quite rapid.
Snods had no pace but I couldn't get near him because his reading of the game was out of this world.
He could make the ball do what ever he wanted and sprayed 40/50 yard missiles all over the pitch.

I used to love a battle and was a very aggressive player but again, Snods had this controlled aggression where I felt every single tackle, block or shoulder barge.

After the game I felt I'd been in a car accident, no exaggeration.

Not sure if he payed me lip service after the game but he thanked me for giving him a good work out and that I'd had a very good game.
He said he'd left Birmingham (I think) and was keeping himself fit in the hope he got a contract at Burnley.
The summer after, he was Donny manager.

Excellent tale that Nudga, really enjoyed reading it!
Title: Re: Best player
Post by: Campsall rover on October 15, 2019, 02:05:44 pm
Ian Snodin is head and shoulders the best player we've had in my time. For those of you who are too young, imagine the passing of Brian Stock combined with the hardest tackling you've ever seen and leadership qualities to demand everyone else follows his lead.

And that was at 18 years old.

Best player I ever saw live. Gascoigne in Paul Malcolm's testimonial was utterly incredible. In a proper match, it would be Davor Suker in Euro96. A privilege to experience.
100% agree BST Ian Snodin is by far and away the best player i have seen play for Rovers. ( 1975 onwards for me. )  If it hadn’t been for injury I am sure he would have been an England full International.

Best player in an individual performance i have ever seen in a match i attended well that’s a difficult one.
3 players spring to mind Johan Cryuff ( Leeds v Barcelona ) Jimmy Johnstone ( Leeds v Celtic ) Eddie Gray ( Leeds v Burnley )
2 players who were consistently brilliant were Billy Bremner & Johnny Giles for Leeds.

But I think Gazza was the most talented English footballer of my time 1962/3 season through to the present time.
George Best the most talented UK footballer, although he never played very well against Leeds as Paul Reaney one of the most underrated full backs there has been, had George in his pocket.