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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on March 24, 2024, 05:59:28 pm
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After getting over the line with our third league win on the trot impressively against Forest Green Rovers we need to attempt a harder task playing Crawley away who are also on three successive wins in the League and sit top of the current six game form league to our second. so a very tough ask.
They have one of the leagues top marksmen in Orsi who scored his sixteenth league goal which saw them move into the play off positions with an impressive 3-1 win at Tranmere yesterday.
Their home form is a bit hit or miss winning 10 games losing 7 and only drawing 1 but have scored 31 times in the process similar to our own form but more goals at home in a season we the supporters don't think that memorable up to press.
This game really could be a season changer for us combined with the Wrexham game next up at home, win both and the bet is we will get giddy on here, and start to look up rather than down.
Another six days rest might see us have choices to make who actually plays, and might come down to us having choices on tactical grounds, and interesting discussions on here who would be preferred. Grant and Cliff at last look like they are getting a tune out of the playing staff, who are looking much more a team with confidence and competitive spirit than just a couple of months ago and a team us the supporters hoped for at the start of the season.
So what do you think? is utopia around the corner? can we get the win that will get us noticed? It is our biggest test of character as well as ability we have had for some time, I know the players would love to bring the points home, are we good enough is the big question? I think we can be, can we be consistent? I hope so but not so sure, please have your say
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They have a very average home record. In fact, they are on joint points total as the most average home record in this league, us. Only goal difference makes them at 11th very slightly better than the average, us at 12th in the home points total in League Two. In their 19 home league games they have only managed three clean sheets - against Sutton, Forest Green and Bradford City. They are on a decent run of form overall though so I suspect this will be a tough game.
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Only 238 away tickets left out of 1,345 so the boys will have some great vocal support.
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Only change I’d make is maybe start with Max and bring on Joe later
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Only change I’d make is maybe start with Max and bring on later
Id second that.
Been very impressed by max in the short tine he has been here. Wins absolutley everything due to the fact he times every jump to perfection and thats what shows to me he is a class above.
If we sign him for next season i think joe will be his back up.
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Only 238 away tickets left out of 1,345 so the boys will have some great vocal support.
That’s astonishing considering the distance to travel and the stage of the season. Let’s hope all those travelling are rewarded with a good performance and three very valuable points. COYR
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Only 238 away tickets left out of 1,345 so the boys will have some great vocal support.
That’s amazing!
I think Grant eluded to the fact that if he could bring some success then ‘the place’ (Eco Power) will get bouncing and the fans come out in force. Possibly one of the reasons he came back.
After a little success recently I’m sure this turnout will be hugely appreciated and a source of great encouragement to continue the upward trend to all the management and playing staff.
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After getting over the line with our third league win on the trot impressively against Forest Green Rovers we need to attempt a harder task playing Crawley away who are also on three successive wins in the League and sit top of the current six game form league to our second. so a very tough ask.
They have one of the leagues top marksmen in Orsi who scored his sixteenth league goal which saw them move into the play off positions with an impressive 3-1 win at Tranmere yesterday.
Their home form is a bit hit or miss winning 10 games losing 7 and only drawing 1 but have scored 31 times in the process similar to our own form but more goals at home in a season we the supporters don't think that memorable up to press.
This game really could be a season changer for us combined with the Wrexham game next up at home, win both and the bet is we will get giddy on here, and start to look up rather than down.
Another six days rest might see us have choices to make who actually plays, and might come down to us having choices on tactical grounds, and interesting discussions on here who would be preferred. Grant and Cliff at last look like they are getting a tune out of the playing staff, who are looking much more a team with confidence and competitive spirit than just a couple of months ago and a team us the supporters hoped for at the start of the season.
So what do you think? is utopia around the corner? can we get the win that will get us noticed? It is our biggest test of character as well as ability we have had for some time, I know the players would love to bring the points home, are we good enough is the big question? I think we can be, can we be consistent? I hope so but not so sure, please have your say
Brian, just a point of order mate, We are the only L2 team currently on a run of three successive wins.
Crawley have won three of their last four matches, a run which includes a draw.
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Last time i watched us play at Crawley we mullered them 5 nil with Richie Wellens running the show. It's hard to believe that was 9 years ago. We have never lost there as far as i am aware. I don't think they are as good as the form table suggests and I am confident that our current line up will have far too much for them. Rovers to win 3 - 1.
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Are Crawley as good as their last few games suggest.
I suppose it could depend on where in the league the teams that they beat are positioned.
That is something that is often used to justify or otherwise how good Rovers results are.
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Are Crawley as good as their last few games suggest.
I suppose it could depend on where in the league the teams that they beat are positioned.
That is something that is often used to justify or otherwise how good Rovers results are.
They have beaten, Forest Green, Wimbledon, Accrington, Harrogate, Notts County and Tranmere, drawn with Stockport and lost to Morecambe. Prior to the recent run they drew with Walsall and lost to Crewe and Morecambe.
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Feels similar to the task we had at Walsall in which we got outsmarted. In general play, there was little to separate the teams, but at key moments we lost our concentration and succumbed.
Our win on Saturdqy was a bit tame at times for a home game but, an ideal performance for an away tie.
There probably won't be much in it but we will need to be at our best to dent their recent confidence and keep them at arms length.
Yes, I would prefer Biamou to start too who's a bit more flexible than Ironside in his all-round play and is capable of scoring from anywhere.
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How far have we come as a squad that we can consider dropping Ironside, who's been one of the best signings of the past few seasons! It's great to have such strength in depth, and agree with others that Biamou is worth a start on recent performances, although Joe never puts a foot wrong imo.
Fancy feeling positive about the Rovers, who knew eh!!
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Just been informed SOLD OUT great following ( sorry sold out on seating ) possibly few left standing
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Focus is very much on our next game and rightly so, but what makes it even more interesting is that it’s quickly followed by our home game against Wrexham.
Now, I’ve only just noticed that Wrexham play Mansfield on Friday and that could well have a bearing on our Tuesday game.
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Only change I’d make is maybe start with Max and bring on Joe later
No, no, no!
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Only change I’d make is maybe start with Max and bring on later
Id second that.
Been very impressed by max in the short tine he has been here. Wins absolutley everything due to the fact he times every jump to perfection and thats what shows to me he is a class above.
If we sign him for next season i think joe will be his back up.
No, no, no, no!
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How far have we come as a squad that we can consider dropping Ironside, who's been one of the best signings of the past few seasons! It's great to have such strength in depth, and agree with others that Biamou is worth a start on recent performances, although Joe never puts a foot wrong imo.
Fancy feeling positive about the Rovers, who knew eh!!
No, no, no, no, no!
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How far have we come as a squad that we can consider dropping Ironside, who's been one of the best signings of the past few seasons! It's great to have such strength in depth, and agree with others that Biamou is worth a start on recent performances, although Joe never puts a foot wrong imo.
Fancy feeling positive about the Rovers, who knew eh!!
No, no, no, no, no!
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
Seriously though, most people seem to think it's a tight one this, with 2 excellent centre forwards to pick from, yet you are emphatic in your choice of Joe to start.
Reasons?
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I would start Joe every time if he is 100% fit.
Bring on Max last 20 mins maybe.
Ironside is a war horse and has been outstanding for us almost every match.
Just my opinion.
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How far have we come as a squad that we can consider dropping Ironside, who's been one of the best signings of the past few seasons! It's great to have such strength in depth, and agree with others that Biamou is worth a start on recent performances, although Joe never puts a foot wrong imo.
Fancy feeling positive about the Rovers, who knew eh!!
No, no, no, no, no!
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
Seriously though, most people seem to think it's a tight one this, with 2 excellent centre forwards to pick from, yet you are emphatic in your choice of Joe to start.
Reasons?
1. Joe’s scored 14 league goals for us this season. He’s frequently shared MOM with Owen Bailey on this forum throughout the course of a tough season.
2. With eight games left of the season, Joe has the chance to reach twenty league goals for Rovers, a feat not emulated since Marquis achieved the same feat. Would you deny him the minutes to reach that figure given the blood & sweat he has given the cause since last August?
3. He missed a good chance on Saturday when the ball broke to Hak’s in midfield & he romped towards goal with Joe in close attendance. Adelukan slipped him in but a last ditch tackle from behind was enough to see Joe’s effort end up in the arms of their keeper. That ‘miss’ will be haunting him (I watched him as the players came to the touch line during a stop in play. He spoke to Hak’s who offered his hand & a pat on the shoulder for Joe). Joe was substituted shortly after by the indomitable Biamou.
Give the lad the opportunity to ‘get back on that horse’ & consign that ‘miss’ to history.
4. He has a good head of hair.
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How far have we come as a squad that we can consider dropping Ironside, who's been one of the best signings of the past few seasons! It's great to have such strength in depth, and agree with others that Biamou is worth a start on recent performances, although Joe never puts a foot wrong imo.
Fancy feeling positive about the Rovers, who knew eh!!
No, no, no, no, no!
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
Seriously though, most people seem to think it's a tight one this, with 2 excellent centre forwards to pick from, yet you are emphatic in your choice of Joe to start.
Reasons?
1. Joe’s scored 14 league goals for us this season. He’s frequently shared MOM with Owen Bailey on this forum throughout the course of a tough season.
2. With eight games left of the season, Joe has the chance to reach twenty league goals for Rovers, a feat not emulated since Marquis achieved the same feat. Would you deny him the minutes to reach that figure given the blood & sweat he has given the cause since last August?
3. He missed a good chance on Saturday when the ball broke to Hak’s in midfield & he romped towards goal with Joe in close attendance. Adelukan slipped him in but a last ditch tackle from behind was enough to see Joe’s effort end up in the arms of their keeper. That ‘miss’ will be haunting him (I watched him as the players came to the touch line during a stop in play. He spoke to Hak’s who offered his hand & a pat on the shoulder for Joe). Joe was substituted shortly after by the indomitable Biamou.
Give the lad the opportunity to ‘get back on that horse’ & consign that ‘miss’ to history.
4. He has a good head of hair.
I preferred his hair long. It really took his plucky and heroic persona to the next level.
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How far have we come as a squad that we can consider dropping Ironside, who's been one of the best signings of the past few seasons! It's great to have such strength in depth, and agree with others that Biamou is worth a start on recent performances, although Joe never puts a foot wrong imo.
Fancy feeling positive about the Rovers, who knew eh!!
No, no, no, no, no!
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
Seriously though, most people seem to think it's a tight one this, with 2 excellent centre forwards to pick from, yet you are emphatic in your choice of Joe to start.
Reasons?
1. Joe’s scored 14 league goals for us this season. He’s frequently shared MOM with Owen Bailey on this forum throughout the course of a tough season.
2. With eight games left of the season, Joe has the chance to reach twenty league goals for Rovers, a feat not emulated since Marquis achieved the same feat. Would you deny him the minutes to reach that figure given the blood & sweat he has given the cause since last August?
3. He missed a good chance on Saturday when the ball broke to Hak’s in midfield & he romped towards goal with Joe in close attendance. Adelukan slipped him in but a last ditch tackle from behind was enough to see Joe’s effort end up in the arms of their keeper. That ‘miss’ will be haunting him (I watched him as the players came to the touch line during a stop in play. He spoke to Hak’s who offered his hand & a pat on the shoulder for Joe). Joe was substituted shortly after by the indomitable Biamou.
Give the lad the opportunity to ‘get back on that horse’ & consign that ‘miss’ to history.
4. He has a good head of hair.
The first two points are meaningless for me. We should be picking the team that gives us the best chance of winning the game, not the opportunity for players to get personal accolades. Ironside has been great for us this season but Biamou has looked more effective in his showings in the last few games so I’d have no issue with him starting on Friday.
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No issues with the last two points then. Phew.
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On the subject of away tickets there were five and a half thousand at their match versus Wrexham (for obvious reasons) and the other two big crowds which were over 4000 were v Wimbledon and Gillingham. Geography explains this.
From what I recall the “Away” end would hold around 1000 since the overall capacity is probably only five and a half thousand. So, when there is demand, they presumably open up other parts of the ground to visiting fans. The average crowd is 3327, so despite their relative success they don’t command a great following.
So you might assume that they are releasing away tickets based on “home” sales. Following past policy you might then conclude that the limit on sales is upwardly flexible.
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They have the £2 offer on for home fans as well of course, so their home turnout will probably be well above average on Friday you'd imagine.
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This from Crawley X tweets
DONCASTER MATCH SOLD OUT
The last remaining seats for this Friday's clash are now sold out!
We can't thank you enough for your incredible support, and we can't wait to see you at a sold-out Broadfield Stadium on Friday.
The away North Terrace as a capacity of 1600 it says in the guide part of stand can be used for home fans depending on the away following. Small amount of seats are available in the East stand for away supporters.
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COYR.
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Capacity 6.134
So probably around 5.800 to 5.900 there tomorrow if Crawley sell the tickets we retuned allowing for segregation in the north stand standing area.
3.327 is their ave attendance this season.
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Looking forward to this now. Maybe see some of you down there.
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Just on way to catch coach at Carcroft.
Massive game this one ( aren’t they all )
3 points today and we really can start believing in the impossible.
Come on Rovers let’s keep this going for as long as possible. :)
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Just on way to catch coach at Carcroft.
Massive game this one ( aren’t they all )
3 points today and we really can start believing in the impossible.
Come on Rovers let’s keep this going for as long as possible. :)
I've just sorted us some snap (tight Yorkshire bloke thing) and will be setting off in about 45 minutes.
Even though our numbers aren't that great today I'm really looking forward to this.
Hopefully the Viking raid will return up North with 3 points
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Just on way to catch coach at Carcroft.
Massive game this one ( aren’t they all )
3 points today and we really can start believing in the impossible.
Come on Rovers let’s keep this going for as long as possible. :)
I've just sorted us some snap (tight Yorkshire bloke thing) and will be setting off in about 45 minutes.
Even though our numbers aren't that great today I'm really looking forward to this.
Hopefully the Viking raid will return up North with 3 points
Safe journey lads and bring home the bacon! Enjoy!
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Will be setting off at 11ish from my spot in south London. Buzzing for this. Another localish one for me where I drag my mates along who haven’t seen a win with me in about 10 years yet they keep coming for some reason! Got a feeling today might be that day to break that barren run.
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After a nice cup of tea to get our breath back.
Phew!
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Brilliant performance and result today. Much has been made at times of the away form, and the form/league position of our opponents at the time we've played them this season. We've made good strides on that in recent weeks. Beaten some decent/in-form teams home and away, including the form side in the division today, with 10 men. Well in Rovers.
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Never seen a half of football like that... Brilliant entertainment
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Only three teams in the league with four wins in a row just now, Arsenal, Lincoln and Rovers.
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Only three teams in the league with four wins in a row just now, Arsenal, Lincoln and Rovers.
Arsenal of the North return
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We made Crawley look very ordinary.
Should have won 4-1
We missed 2 sitters before clinching it in the 98th min.
They missed one but it was a brilliant save by LT
Fantastic performance and massive statement today.
Richard Wood was a colossus today m.o.m without question imo
But everyone played well.
Can the impossible actually happen.
We are 8 points behind 7th place Gillingham with 2 games in hand.
We also play them last game of the season.
A shootout for the play offs at Priestfield on 27th April?
Well it’s still on while we keep winning.
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Plenty of other teams also have a game or two in hand over Gillingham too Camps.
If they were to win them it makes it harder for us to go past them.
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Plenty of other teams also have a game in hand over Gillingham too Camps.
If they were to win them it makes it harder for us to go past them.
They do hound but we are the team with the momentum.
That’s what is so important and could be the deciding factor.
Yes it’s still a massive ask to win the last 7 or even 6 wins and a draw which might be enough.
But while it’s still on then I am going to keep the belief.
There is more than enough belief in this team right now & GM isn’t going to let them take their foot off the gas
100% he isn’t
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I was really impressed with Sterry today. He doesn’t get many plaudits.
He looks quite quick as well, he must be back up to full fitness.
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I see the Crawley commentary team were doing the usual trick, calling it a bad day at the office for their team. Christ on a bike! why can't any of these pundits call it like it was, Rovers won that game with doggedness, determination, a will not to lose the game, and with 10 men, for god's sake you'd think they could see what's in front of their eyes and give Rovers some credit for making Crawley look ordinary, and restricting them to very few chances. Well done lads and Grant & Cliff you deserve all the plaudits you get
for that battling performance.
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Just on way to catch coach at Carcroft.
Massive game this one ( aren’t they all )
3 points today and we really can start believing in the impossible.
Come on Rovers let’s keep this going for as long as possible. :)
I've just sorted us some snap (tight Yorkshire bloke thing) and will be setting off in about 45 minutes.
Even though our numbers aren't that great today I'm really looking forward to this.
Hopefully the Viking raid will return up North with 3 points
Safe journey lads and bring home the bacon! Enjoy!
That's being optimistic DVR, expecting Nudga to bring some bacon back from his snap :lol:
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As always with these darn sarf trips, we have a stopover in the capital, and boy does the ale in the hotel bar taste good tonight.. :-)
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I see the Crawley commentary team were doing the usual trick, calling it a bad day at the office for their team. Christ on a bike! why can't any of these pundits call it like it was, Rovers won that game with doggedness, determination, a will not to lose the game, and with 10 men, for god's sake you'd think they could see what's in front of their eyes and give Rovers some credit for making Crawley look ordinary, and restricting them to very few chances. Well done lads and Grant & Cliff you deserve all the plaudits you get
for that battling performance.
Agree totally and the Co commentator just couldn't finish any sentence without saying .... but really we should be 1_0 up
Neatly forgetting we (Rovers) had the Moly shot which their Keeper kept out
He also at one point said we've had 2 great chances and should be 2 up totally failing to think if the shot that LTL saved had gone in the second chance would not have occurred
However the save was made and then if they scored when Wood blocked then that would have been 1 0
They both couldn't count and as it happened neither counted
God he was appalling
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Nice summary from the Crawley manager yesterday.
https://x.com/realeflsocial/status/1773820823444357259?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
“If my auntie had wheels, she’d be a shopping trolley.”
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Biltcliffe FFS ..keep him off our commentaries on I Follow !
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Nice summary from the Crawley manager yesterday.
https://x.com/realeflsocial/status/1773820823444357259?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
“If my auntie had wheels, she’d be a shopping trolley.”
"Don't keep it 0-0. Go and score"
Genius management.
Reminds me of a team talk from our Sunday League manager years ago.
"Come on lads, gather round. I've been thinking about tactics.
"Nah, your lot in defence, TACKLE yer man and get the ball. Then gi it to one o' midfielders.
"Midfielders, gerrit art to' wingers. Your wingers, get round full back and ger a cross in. An your two up front, gerron end or it an bang it in back o' net."
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Biltcliffe FFS ..keep him off our commentaries on I Follow !
I'm glad it wasn't just me. His style is one of hyperbole - every late tackle has to be described as bone-crunching, awful or the worst thing seen since Stalin was around. Every foul could be a red card in Tom's commentary. He was playing to a radio audience and hyping it up, forgetting many of us were listening to him while watching on iFollow video. He also got so much wrong. I used to like Tom's commentary, but since he became more of a Radio DeeDah man, he's slipped into some awful habits.
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Biltcliffe FFS ..keep him off our commentaries on I Follow !
I'm glad it wasn't just me. His style is one of hyperbole - every late tackle has to be described as bone-crunching, awful or the worst thing seen since Stalin was around. Every foul could be a red card in Tom's commentary. He was playing to a radio audience and hyping it up, forgetting many of us were listening to him while watching on iFollow video. He also got so much wrong. I used to like Tom's commentary, but since he became more of a Radio DeeDah man, he's slipped into some awful habits.
I mentioned this in a post yesterday and at another away game I watched on iFollow recently.
He is very controversial and gets so many things wrong.
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Nice summary from the Crawley manager yesterday.
https://x.com/realeflsocial/status/1773820823444357259?s=46&t=NW2HQZbSZTCyeJVxHL-jUg
“If my auntie had wheels, she’d be a shopping trolley.”
He spoke a lot of sense there.
Making sure his players didn’t sit back and wait for something to happpen, but making them understand that we were good quality opponents and were likely to score a goal ourselves.
Good too that he acknowledged our quality.
Many managers just look for excuses.