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Until recent years that's always been true LDR. It always used to be said that 'Hard cases make bad law'. But we've seen several instances of public emotion driving political action more lately. I'm not making any political point here either. It's true of all major parties. But reactive legislation, clearly driven by public emotion and the seeking after votes is unlikely to lead to happy long term outcomes.BobG
So has Carrie Antoinette been fined £10k for organising the cake do in Downing St?Only fair because others were fined for organising events and gatherings at the time.Anyone smelling a rat with this Met enquiry yet?
Perhaps the other 48% will try to overturn that.
I wonder what percentage of the country will trust The Durham Constabulary when they don't give Keir Starmer a fixed penalty fine?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 20, 2022, 05:37:32 pmI wonder what percentage of the country will trust The Durham Constabulary when they don't give Keir Starmer a fixed penalty fine?There is no way Starmer is getting fined. His resignation would put the heat back on Johnson.
Quote from: River Don on May 20, 2022, 07:06:22 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 20, 2022, 05:37:32 pmI wonder what percentage of the country will trust The Durham Constabulary when they don't give Keir Starmer a fixed penalty fine?There is no way Starmer is getting fined. His resignation would put the heat back on Johnson.Of course he isn't, and he knows it. He's used it to come over all decent and moral and honest but the only people he's convinced are those who didn't need convincing in the first place. Put it this way, supposing (hypothetically speaking because it won't happen) he was told he had broken the law but was not going to be fined. Why won't he be decent and moral enough to resign then?
According to a Yougov poll, 52% of the public don't trust The Met investigation.
A bloke who has built his entire reputation on upholding the law can't hold on if he's broken the law.As I understand it, unless he is issued with a fine then he hasn't broken the law.
Have I missed this Sajid Javids brother is Deputy assistant Commisioner at the Met.!!! Is Dick still in charge or is this chap acting as boss at the mo? Obvioualy no conspiracy theories can come from this?
Quote from: River Don on May 20, 2022, 08:22:55 pmA bloke who has built his entire reputation on upholding the law can't hold on if he's broken the law.As I understand it, unless he is issued with a fine then he hasn't broken the law.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/05/10/sir-keir-starmer-will-not-resign-beergate-broke-rules-isnt-fined/
So you're not classing breaking the rules and breaking the law as the same thing?
Sue Gray and Boris Johnson had private meeting to discuss handling of partygate report, Sky News understands:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1527726289527898113'impartial investigation'
Murdoch's top political journalist confirms this is correct:Everyone in Britain still acts as if this was a normal government. Instead it is a project of deliberate destruction, of laws, of institutions, of anything that stands in the way of a PM who just doesn’t want to be held to accounthttps://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1527729072398278657But Keir Starmer had a beer with his dinner.
Quote from: wilts rover on May 20, 2022, 09:03:00 pmSue Gray and Boris Johnson had private meeting to discuss handling of partygate report, Sky News understands:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1527726289527898113'impartial investigation'I thought the report was mostly finished ages ago? Reviewing the outcome seems entirely appropriate to me, as long as the full report is published.