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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Robbo on November 29, 2020, 03:23:40 pm
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Sorry but in my opinion we need a different option.
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How about that lad Okenabirhie?
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I think some of the criticism at Fej is over the top and not really fair. He’s not particularly well suited to the lone striker role but works hard, gives defences a difficult time and has chipped in with 6 goals this season already. He’s probably knackered given he’s been ploughing a lone furrow for 6 weeks, I’m not sure he’s even been subbed off at any stage since JJ got injured. He looked poor today but I think it’s more that he needs a rest rather than he’s not up to it.
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It would help if they gave him something to sniff at, I've not seen more than 4 chances in the season, other than his goals. He is being asked to run around as a lone striker, and due to this he is often way out of position when we do break.
The final ball in to the box when he is in position has never been anywhere near.
The one thing that hasn't been great from him, is his control - it often gets away from him.
He looked great in preseason, and against higher opposition in Blackburn.
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Think we need to get the wider players further toward they play really deep to protect the defence so no one ever gets near.He was poor today however if Lokilo sorted his crossing out he would have had a tap in.
Remember when we signed him Shrewsbury fans saying he just didn’t fit playing up top on his own which is why they let him go. Can see what they mean now
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Sorry but in my opinion we need a different option.
Yes the players need to remember he’s there to score not make up the numbers . Barely a single pass went in his direction today . If his confidence is low then the players by passing around him have contributed to it .
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Apart from the goal against Charlton does anyone really believe John Jules has been any better. He certainly wasn't today when he came on.
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Apart from the goal against Charlton does anyone really believe John Jules has been any better. He certainly wasn't today when he came on.
He never got the ball. How can you possibly criticise JJ’s cameo appearance today. Give the lad a break he has been out for weeks.
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Apart from the goal against Charlton does anyone really believe John Jules has been any better. He certainly wasn't today when he came on.
He never got the ball. How can you possibly criticise JJ’s cameo appearance today. Give the lad a break he has been out for weeks.
It's hilarious people thinking players will come back in at 100% after being out injured for over a month.
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I’ve only seen him play in the two FA Cup games against lower opposition and haven’t been impressed although his work rate is unquestioned. If we are to play a lone striker each game, I don’t think that he is going to fit that role and we need another option in January.
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John Jules was far better when he came on. He made intelligent moves off the defenders to give himself space to receive the ball and lay it off. Much as I want Fej to be a success, I thought he was awful today.
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I'll give him the benefit of doubt and say he needs a rest. Appreciate he has a thankless task but there are some basic things he can do better and one of those is keeping possession of the ball. I don't expect him to win everything but when he does get possession, work harder to keep it.
He can't be described as a handful at the moment so we do need someone who can make it harder for a back four.
Thought it was significant he dropped wide for JJ to take up a more central role.
Maybe dropping to the bench for a game or two will help him recharge and refocus.
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I really liked Fej but the more I see of him the worse he seems to get. TJJ is your typical top academy graduate, hard working, athletic and a clever runner.
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Just hope no one mentions Watters scored again
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Slow doesn’t anticipate sorry we need another centre forward Let’s hope JJ can do it not sure he can but we’ll wait and see.
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So what (Watters) Apart from it being good for him! We had the same wake when Alfie left us last season when he scored a few. I watched him, Blair and Williams yesterday and you wouldn't want any of them back.
With not having a development team this year, was always going to be difficult to give Watters the games he needs and with JJ and Tulloch signed up, he was never likely to get much of a chance so you can understand why DM was fair, and let him go.
We have to deal with the now and not linger on what might have been.
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I think some of the criticism at Fej is over the top and not really fair. He’s not particularly well suited to the lone striker role but works hard, gives defences a difficult time and has chipped in with 6 goals this season already. He’s probably knackered given he’s been ploughing a lone furrow for 6 weeks, I’m not sure he’s even been subbed off at any stage since JJ got injured. He looked poor today but I think it’s more that he needs a rest rather than he’s not up to it.
Not a hold up player at all, the way we play at the minute we need someone in the Ilk of Chris Brown
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You could start by making a bit more effort than you accuse him of lacking and SPELL his name correctly .
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So what (Watters) Apart from it being good for him! We had the same wake when Alfie left us last season when he scored a few. I watched him, Blair and Williams yesterday and you wouldn't want any of them back.
With not having a development team this year, was always going to be difficult to give Watters the games he needs and with JJ and Tulloch signed up, he was never likely to get much of a chance so you can understand why DM was fair, and let him go.
We have to deal with the now and not linger on what might have been.
You can’t compare how watters has done at Crawley to what May has done at Cheltenham
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He’s bang average for me... so slow to react to any balls played in or around him. Definitely need a better option moving forward
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I think another factor is knowing you're the only option up front and your playing 90 mins every week without respite means you have to pace yourself through games, avoid injury etc.
I don't think DM will be writing him off yet that's for sure.
Now he has back up, we might start to see better things.
I think it was also significant when right at the death Fejiri won an important header and Whiteman made a point of saying well done
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I’m not even sure he’s average at this level. There’s no doubting his effort but I’ve not seen him put any defence in any game this season under any pressure. Far to easy to mark out the game.
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The Carlisle Centre Forward look miles better than him, he’s had a run of games but hasn’t cut the mustard for me
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Sorry but in my opinion we need a different option.
He is OUR player just like Marquis was and HE drifted out of favour from time to time before sorting his game out , now look at him and it didn’t happen over night . He’s scored 6 so far and I’ll say it again he needs supply not criticism!!!
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I really liked Fej but the more I see of him the worse he seems to get. TJJ is your typical top academy graduate, hard working, athletic and a clever runner.
But Okenabirhie came out the same academy?
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To be fair he's isolated on his own up front and most of the time receives the ball on the halfway line with his back to goal, can't fault his effort.
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I think this criticism is totally unfair (my opinion) the guy runs his blood to water needs a bit of support up front, we’ve missed Taylor
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He struggles with high balls played to him with his back to goal, when he plays as a loan striker.
Perhaps it would help him if we played two upfront? Someone mentioned Brownie and I agree he would have fitted in perfectly.
He has to improve ,the team need a striker to play the roll of receiving the ball , shield it, laying it off and he is not doing it.
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He does seem a bit slow to react at times but i don't think it helps that we don't get the ball into the box quick enough. As a forward it must be frustrating to make a run ,wanting an early ball and nothing comes, then you're stood in a crowded penalty area trying to find some space
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He’s not strong enough, has no pace and can never find space in the box or make the correct runs.
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Okenabirhie has been poor for the last few games. He is clearly not a lone striker but he still hasn't done much. I thought he had a few half decent touches and passes after he moved wide to accommodate John-Jules late on. I'm not sure how much is down to him not getting service in the box, and how much of it is him actually not getting into those positions.
The Carlisle Centre Forward look miles better than him, he’s had a run of games but hasn’t cut the mustard for me
You must be joking. His shooting was terrible for most of the game and he didn't look like someone who had the intelligence required for a higher level.
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Okenabirhie has been poor for the last few games. He is clearly not a lone striker but he still hasn't done much. I thought he had a few half decent touches and passes after he moved wide to accommodate John-Jules late on. I'm not sure how much is down to him not getting service in the box, and how much of it is him actually not getting into those positions.
The Carlisle Centre Forward look miles better than him, he’s had a run of games but hasn’t cut the mustard for me
You must be joking. His shooting was terrible for most of the game and he didn't look like someone who had the intelligence required for a higher level.
He may have been referring to their 11 Omari Patrick. He was lively throughout and a handful at times, their biggest threat to be fair.
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Fej was poor again today, sadly he’s just not good enough.
I fail to see what he offers to be brutally honest.
He’s slow, his decision making is poor, he lacks strength, not a threat in the air.....
I hate to be negative but he shouldn’t be in this team.
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His reaction to passes played to him is a joke. Probably no wonder nobody passes to him. He sets off after the defenders booted the ball away
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I don’t think we can achieve our ambitions to challenge for promotion when we have Fej as our centre forward.
Harsh but true.
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I don’t think we can achieve our ambitions to challenge for promotion when we have Fej as our centre forward.
Harsh but true.
I agree with that. it's a shame but it's a waste of our no 9 position.
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Nobody has mentioned the fact that most of the time he can't control a ball when passed to him.
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So what (Watters) Apart from it being good for him! We had the same wake when Alfie left us last season when he scored a few. I watched him, Blair and Williams yesterday and you wouldn't want any of them back.
With not having a development team this year, was always going to be difficult to give Watters the games he needs and with JJ and Tulloch signed up, he was never likely to get much of a chance so you can understand why DM was fair, and let him go.
We have to deal with the now and not linger on what might have been.
You can’t compare how watters has done at Crawley to what May has done at Cheltenham
I didn't.
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I hope I'm not being unfair here because it must be difficult being up front and alone with your back to the goal most of the time, but his reactions remind me of Corporal Jones from Dad's Army, in that he always seems to react later than those around him. He also looks like he's running in treacle when he's chasing the ball. Maybe I'm over critical of him because I've thought exactly the same about several other players who have played up front since Marquis left.
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Just hope no one mentions Watters scored again
It was a goal like Okenbirhie’s last where it was right on the line.
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Im glad somebody brought Chris Brown up, as Fej is being asked to play that style - selfless running and holding the ball up - it just doesn't look his game, and its not for most strikers.
It is ridiculously hard work, and hardly any merit comes from it - you need to be seriously mentally strong, as well as obviously fit - and I think that has been a part to play also, he looks out of legs (wobbly legs) at stages.
As for goals, Chris didn't score that many per season, so Fej may end up on par if not better.
We need to play to his strengths, or find someone else. If we just put it in the box faster and with more accuracy we/he might stand half a chance.
Seems to late though looking through the posts and opinions, he has become this years fall guy.
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I hope I'm not being unfair here because it must be difficult being up front and alone with your back to the goal most of the time, but his reactions remind me of Corporal Jones from Dad's Army, in that he always seems to react later than those around him. He also looks like he's running in treacle when he's chasing the ball. Maybe I'm over critical of him because I've thought exactly the same about several other players who have played up front since Marquis left.
He just never seems like he's going to get to the ball, whether it's an aerial pass - which more often than not he'll get nowhere near - or a pass to feet - which more often than not the defender he's stood next to will beat him to.
He doesn't seem interested. At least when Marquis was playing horrendously, he still added something to the team being a bloody nuisance to the opposition defence. Fej may as well be sat watching with me 99% of the time he's on the pitch.
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He’s bang average for me... so slow to react to any balls played in or around him. Definitely need a better option moving forward
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Agreed, he doesn't anticipate anything played around him, making it hard for himself, he ends up chasing his marker who does anticipate it, & often concedes a foul. Really don't think he suits the lone striker role.
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Im glad somebody brought Chris Brown up, as Fej is being asked to play that style - selfless running and holding the ball up - it just doesn't look his game, and its not for most strikers.
It is ridiculously hard work, and hardly any merit comes from it - you need to be seriously mentally strong, as well as obviously fit - and I think that has been a part to play also, he looks out of legs (wobbly legs) at stages.
As for goals, Chris didn't score that many per season, so Fej may end up on par if not better.
We need to play to his strengths, or find someone else. If we just put it in the box faster and with more accuracy we/he might stand half a chance.
Seems to late though looking through the posts and opinions, he has become this years fall guy.
What are his strengths I’ve not seen any?
When he went out wide he was no better.
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In all honesty I've not seen enough of him to say - I would like to see him in the flesh, watching on the tv doesn't give you an appreciation of the game, just the snap shot of where the ball is.
In pre season, he was receiving through balls, and leaving players with his speed and power, and his finishing was excellent. That was against some decent teams, albeit preseason.
He finds space in the box well enough, but we do not pass to him fast enough, every time we have found him, with a first time early cross, he has scored (last FA cup game from Halliday cross, and last league game, again a great cross from Halliday.)
We have a group of players in the copps mould, they love to chop/cut back several times, or try intricate passing in the wrong places - by the time they realise they have not achieved anything, they revert to crossing it in, as a last gasp - when the box is full of players and no space.
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Im glad somebody brought Chris Brown up, as Fej is being asked to play that style - selfless running and holding the ball up - it just doesn't look his game, and its not for most strikers.
It is ridiculously hard work, and hardly any merit comes from it - you need to be seriously mentally strong, as well as obviously fit - and I think that has been a part to play also, he looks out of legs (wobbly legs) at stages.
As for goals, Chris didn't score that many per season, so Fej may end up on par if not better.
We need to play to his strengths, or find someone else. If we just put it in the box faster and with more accuracy we/he might stand half a chance.
Seems to late though looking through the posts and opinions, he has become this years fall guy.
There were two or three occasions today when Fej made good runs into the box and was in space but the ball across goal was played behind him.
That clearly isn’t his fault.
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Doesn’t excuse the fact his second touch is a slide tackle, hound! We either stop playing down the middle to him and change it to attacking purely down the flanks, or let someone else have a go. I thought JJ showed more in 20 minutes that Fej had shown the previous 70!
He simply has to do a lot better than what he’s shown over the last few games.
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Okenabirhie Is a quality player who needs to be played along side players who feed of scraps like him . John Jules coming back should provide the makings of great pairing . Sims IMO should be playing out wide and not through the middle as he needs space to run at defenders not dodging tackles from centre backs with murder in mind . Today we looked out of sorts and we only got success when coming in off the flanks with players lined up around the box taking shots .
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We’re not going to play with two strikers. At best the two wide players either side of the three behind him might push up more. We’re not going to have two strikers playing together.
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I agree, it has not been DM style, he seems to favour 1 up top.
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Fejiri’s record before joining us is nothing special, a short time at Arsenal youth, a host of non league clubs and a half decent stint at Shrewsbury, to me that suggests he’s not as good as some folk thinks he is. I would love to be proved wrong, but he’s had his chance since JJ has been injured and for me has failed to impress
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Of course he isn't Filo, but I guess neither are we as a club, if he was better than he is he'd probably be elsewhere. The thing for me is whether he can get better. Should not just write someone off as they may suddenly improve. On one hand there are some saying Fejiri isn't good enough (6 weeks ago it was why is a loanee playing over him), the other why did we let Watters go? Fine lines and difficult decisions, it may well just click for Fejiri soon.
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Like Marquis his best work is in the area twelve yards from goal in the penalty box. He is a 10 to 20 goals a season man and does his fair share of harrying the central defenders to create space for others and scores the knock ins, put the ball in that area as someone said quicker and he will score the scruffy knock ins.
If he has a weakness to me it is his aerial work which could be better both on crosses and for knock ons, as someone has said lots of coaching improvements to make, but please don't coach his runs in the box out of him, which are very good and other players should be picking out better and quicker.
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It’s simply madness to suggest playing 2 up top - we only have 2 ‘strikers’ at the Club! One game could see both wiped out with no back-up at all. Last season, we had 3 or 4 to pick from (including Watters) at times. As a Club, I don’t think we could afford 3 or 4 strikers on the books!
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Of course he isn't Filo, but I guess neither are we as a club, if he was better than he is he'd probably be elsewhere. The thing for me is whether he can get better. Should not just write someone off as they may suddenly improve. On one hand there are some saying Fejiri isn't good enough (6 weeks ago it was why is a loanee playing over him), the other why did we let Watters go? Fine lines and difficult decisions, it may well just click for Fejiri soon.
BFYP remember how long we persevered with the best striker in the division (on the training ground)?? I give you...... Lewis Guy.
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Fejiri’s record before joining us is nothing special, a short time at Arsenal youth, a host of non league clubs and a half decent stint at Shrewsbury, to me that suggests he’s not as good as some folk thinks he is. I would love to be proved wrong, but he’s had his chance since JJ has been injured and for me has failed to impress
I doubt we expect him to blow other teams out of the water week after week, he didn't cost us much to sign, but he had an excellent season at Shrewsbury in 2018/19, scoring 16 goals, so he isn't totally unproven either. His career goalscoring record is irrelevant to this discussion in my opinion because his scoring rate is actually the one thing he's doing well with at the moment.
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We would all like to see Feji doing well but he just doesn't have the skill to support his physique- He was easily managed by an average League 2 centre back at Carlisle, always second to the ball, and hasn't really troubled any team since Blackburn. He doesn't seem to have the ability to use his physical strength to mess centre backs around in the way that he needs to do to effectively lead our line. Really hope he comes good but at the moment a fit John Jules would play up front every game going forward in my opinion.
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We would all like to see Feji doing well but he just doesn't have the skill to support his physique- He was easily managed by an average League 2 centre back at Carlisle, always second to the ball, and hasn't really troubled any team since Blackburn. He doesn't seem to have the ability to use his physical strength to mess centre backs around in the way that he needs to do to effectively lead our line. Really hope he comes good but at the moment a fit John Jules would play up front every game going forward in my opinion.
Hayden one of the Carlisle centre backs was being tipped to go on to great things by the Radio Cumbria commentators. The Premier League was mentioned.
Some of the criticism Ferji is getting is ridiculous. If he doesn’t get decent service into the box what is he supposed to do? The ball needs to come in much quicker from both flanks.
His hold up play is work in progress and I do feel every one is comparing him to Marquis. Maybe some of the Marquis bashes will now realise just how good he actually was and how phenomenal his work rate was.
Ferji has a lot to live up to and is doing his best in a lone striker role which with 2 centre backs permanently up your behind is a thankless task.
Give the lad a break. He has scored 6 goals and if he continues at the goals per match rate for the whole season would get 20
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This forum requires a fall guy, that's the rules.
So far this season the critism has been mild. Its been a toss up between the left back position and whoever leads up front. The focus has now irmly shifted to Feji.
Let me say I wasn't impressed by him on Sunday. I would go so far as to say he had a stinker and unless he is as thick as a plank, he knows it, too. We can rip him to shreds all day long, but don't go thinking players don't look in on web forums now and then, so what will that achieve?
I'm prepared to be patient, give him a chance. Hopefully let him develop some confidence. No point in undermining him.
Unfortunately others won't. They need a victim on which to vent their collective spleens. So go on, give me an example of when dishing out dog's abuse ever improved a player.
I'm not expecting much in the way of recruitment in January. I doubt anyone is. If Whiteman leaves, maybe a replacement. But these are difficult times. We are where we are. It's unlikely we will see a proven 20-goals a season player beating down our door at the start of 2021.
Cut Feji a bit of slack. It won't make him less confident in a role that clearly doesn't suit his attributes.
It's up to Darren to get the most he can from the resources he already has. We can help in a small way by supporting his choices.
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We would all like to see Feji doing well but he just doesn't have the skill to support his physique- He was easily managed by an average League 2 centre back at Carlisle, always second to the ball, and hasn't really troubled any team since Blackburn. He doesn't seem to have the ability to use his physical strength to mess centre backs around in the way that he needs to do to effectively lead our line. Really hope he comes good but at the moment a fit John Jules would play up front every game going forward in my opinion.
Hayden one of the Carlisle centre backs was being tipped to go on to great things by the Radio Cumbria commentators. The Premier League was mentioned.
Some of the criticism Ferji is getting is ridiculous. If he doesn’t get decent service into the box what is he supposed to do? The ball needs to come in much quicker from both flanks.
His hold up play is work in progress and I do feel every one is comparing him to Marquis. Maybe some of the Marquis bashes will now realise just how good he actually was and how phenomenal his work rate was.
Ferji has a lot to live up to and is doing his best in a lone striker role which with 2 centre backs permanently up your behind is a thankless task.
Give the lad a break. He has scored 6 goals and if he continues at the goals per match rate for the whole season would get 20
Come on the commentary was farcical at times. The biased one thought they were playing Dagenham & Redbridge and thought it was only us who commited any fouls.
Of course he thought one of their players was premiership quality.
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We would all like to see Feji doing well but he just doesn't have the skill to support his physique- He was easily managed by an average League 2 centre back at Carlisle, always second to the ball, and hasn't really troubled any team since Blackburn. He doesn't seem to have the ability to use his physical strength to mess centre backs around in the way that he needs to do to effectively lead our line. Really hope he comes good but at the moment a fit John Jules would play up front every game going forward in my opinion.
Hayden one of the Carlisle centre backs was being tipped to go on to great things by the Radio Cumbria commentators. The Premier League was mentioned.
Some of the criticism Ferji is getting is ridiculous. If he doesn’t get decent service into the box what is he supposed to do? The ball needs to come in much quicker from both flanks.
His hold up play is work in progress and I do feel every one is comparing him to Marquis. Maybe some of the Marquis bashes will now realise just how good he actually was and how phenomenal his work rate was.
Ferji has a lot to live up to and is doing his best in a lone striker role which with 2 centre backs permanently up your behind is a thankless task.
Give the lad a break. He has scored 6 goals and if he continues at the goals per match rate for the whole season would get 20
Come on the commentary was farcical at times. The biased one thought they were playing Dagenham & Redbridge and thought it was only us who commited any fouls.
Of course he thought one of their players was premiership quality.
Sorry which commentators were you listening to? They were very complimentary towards Rovers and kept saying what a step up in class we were.
Thought they were very un biased in there commentary.
Did you here the Wigan ones. They thought they were premier league standard in the 2nd half. They didn’t seem to realise we completely switched off.
Any way now they are bottom of the League it is possible the penny may have dropped.
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I agree they were almost too complimentary, I found it odd to listen too. I am used to the away commentary barely mentioning us, but last night they spoke more about us, than the home team.
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The main Carlisle commentator was incredibly biased.
He kept saying things like “tell me why that was a foul” when the ref gave free kicks against CUFC.
He repeatedly said we had played a lucky pass etc.
It was the co commentator who was fair and kept saying what a well organised team we were.
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Hmmm yes he did, but I agreed with most of what he said? Quite a few were never fouls, the Amos running off the pitch being a good point. He was losing the foot race, and tried to get infant and lean back on their player, Amos got it wrong and fell over....we got the foul. I found them overly fair, and sympathised with them, you would be gutted if they went against us.
Its strange how we all see or hear things differently.
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Hmmm yes he did, but I agreed with most of what he said? Quite a few were never fouls, the Amos running off the pitch being a good point. He was losing the foot race, and tried to get infant and lean back on their player, Amos got it wrong and fell over....we got the foul. I found them overly fair, and sympathised with them, you would be gutted if they went against us.
Its strange how we all see or hear things differently.
Watch that Amos one again mate.
The Carlisle player grabbed hold of the arm of Amos and pulled him off balance, hence why he fell over.
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The commentary was atrocious, supremely biased and they clearly had little to no idea about us or our players as was evidenced multiple times. Calling us Dagenham & Redbridge, saying they'd "heard Whiteman is quite good", discussing Darren Moore as if he'd just joined us. That's before you get into the unbelievable bias on show at every foul or missed chance etc.
They even had Carlisle fans getting in touch to tell them how ridiculous some of the things they were saying were, like the claim that their defender was "Premier League quality".
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The commentary was atrocious, supremely biased and they clearly had little to no idea about us or our players as was evidenced multiple times. Calling us Dagenham & Redbridge, saying they'd "heard Whiteman is quite good", discussing Darren Moore as if he'd just joined us. That's before you get into the unbelievable bias on show at every foul or missed chance etc.
They even had Carlisle fans getting in touch to tell them how ridiculous some of the things they were saying were, like the claim that their defender was "Premier League quality".
Not the way I heard it Alias. It just shows how we all do see and hear things differently.
Think the ref was very good to us overall. A lot of 50/50 went our way. We have a win win win win record with him. Can we have him on Wednesday please. And his name is Oldham. Amazing.
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The commentary was atrocious, supremely biased and they clearly had little to no idea about us or our players as was evidenced multiple times. Calling us Dagenham & Redbridge, saying they'd "heard Whiteman is quite good", discussing Darren Moore as if he'd just joined us. That's before you get into the unbelievable bias on show at every foul or missed chance etc.
They even had Carlisle fans getting in touch to tell them how ridiculous some of the things they were saying were, like the claim that their defender was "Premier League quality".
The main guy spent most of the match calling Taylor Richards Taylor as if it was his surname. Ludicrous. And we pay this guy's salary!
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This forum requires a fall guy, that's the rules.
So far this season the critism has been mild. Its been a toss up between the left back position and whoever leads up front. The focus has now irmly shifted to Feji.
Let me say I wasn't impressed by him on Sunday. I would go so far as to say he had a stinker and unless he is as thick as a plank, he knows it, too. We can rip him to shreds all day long, but don't go thinking players don't look in on web forums now and then, so what will that achieve?
I'm prepared to be patient, give him a chance. Hopefully let him develop some confidence. No point in undermining him.
Unfortunately others won't. They need a victim on which to vent their collective spleens. So go on, give me an example of when dishing out dog's abuse ever improved a player.
I'm not expecting much in the way of recruitment in January. I doubt anyone is. If Whiteman leaves, maybe a replacement. But these are difficult times. We are where we are. It's unlikely we will see a proven 20-goals a season player beating down our door at the start of 2021.
Cut Feji a bit of slack. It won't make him less confident in a role that clearly doesn't suit his attributes.
It's up to Darren to get the most he can from the resources he already has. We can help in a small way by supporting his choices.
We have a squad is size and quality that should be challenging for the play offs. Aside from Tulloch and a keeper if Lumley disappears, we have a fit and ready squad now. With Joe Wright now seemingly our second choice right back, we might not even need the lad back from Maidstone. Challenge is to get these players performing at a consistently high level game in, game out.
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Hmmm yes he did, but I agreed with most of what he said? Quite a few were never fouls, the Amos running off the pitch being a good point. He was losing the foot race, and tried to get infant and lean back on their player, Amos got it wrong and fell over....we got the foul. I found them overly fair, and sympathised with them, you would be gutted if they went against us.
Its strange how we all see or hear things differently.
Watch that Amos one again mate.
The Carlisle player grabbed hold of the arm of Amos and pulled him off balance, hence why he fell over.
True - thats the one I pointed out earlier but thought it might have been James
Carlisle bloke ran after him and grabbed one arm with both hands and kept on pulling - and Commentator asked "why did he give that"
You are also right with the co commentator - as I think he was an injured or ex Player who knew his stuff
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This forum requires a fall guy, that's the rules.
So far this season the critism has been mild. Its been a toss up between the left back position and whoever leads up front. The focus has now irmly shifted to Feji.
Let me say I wasn't impressed by him on Sunday. I would go so far as to say he had a stinker and unless he is as thick as a plank, he knows it, too. We can rip him to shreds all day long, but don't go thinking players don't look in on web forums now and then, so what will that achieve?
I'm prepared to be patient, give him a chance. Hopefully let him develop some confidence. No point in undermining him.
Unfortunately others won't. They need a victim on which to vent their collective spleens. So go on, give me an example of when dishing out dog's abuse ever improved a player.
I'm not expecting much in the way of recruitment in January. I doubt anyone is. If Whiteman leaves, maybe a replacement. But these are difficult times. We are where we are. It's unlikely we will see a proven 20-goals a season player beating down our door at the start of 2021.
Cut Feji a bit of slack. It won't make him less confident in a role that clearly doesn't suit his attributes.
It's up to Darren to get the most he can from the resources he already has. We can help in a small way by supporting his choices.
Bob, what evidence do you have that players look in on web forums now and again? I asked a Rovers player about this a few years ago, and he said that they definitely don't, because of the dog's abuse they might see.
I agree with you that it's not nice for Fej to be getting all this stick, but with empty stadiums, I don't think he'll be aware of it.
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I can’t see anyone giving him dogs abuse on here, just honest opinion of his performances
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I can’t see anyone giving him dogs abuse on here, just honest opinion of his performances
Come on Filo.
Typically he has been described as not good enough, not interested, poor control, not a centre forward etc.
There is even the thread dedicated to how poor he allegedly is.
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I can’t see anyone giving him dogs abuse on here, just honest opinion of his performances
Come on Filo.
Typically he has been described as not good enough, not interested, poor control, not a centre forward etc.
There is even the thread dedicated to how poor he allegedly is.
All that is opinion, not abuse
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I can’t see anyone giving him dogs abuse on here, just honest opinion of his performances
Come on Filo.
Typically he has been described as not good enough, not interested, poor control, not a centre forward etc.
There is even the thread dedicated to how poor he allegedly is.
All that is opinion, not abuse
Mmmm, that in itself is a matter of opinion I guess.
I wonder what Fej would think if he read the comments.
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Deffo not abuse. Critical maybe but that is the subject of the thread.
Whilst we've dissected his performances and identified things he could do better, getting a new centre forward is not the answer, certainly not in the short term.
I don't think we've seen the best of him. We have seen better. Maybe now with having back up, he can maybe be given a breather, even if only mentally, and then step up a gear. As said previously, he's had to Plough a lone furrow for quite some time now.
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I think the manager may becoming to his rescue, reading between the lines of a recent article from Liam Hoden, which basically says he (DM) may well have to put JJ and Gomes straight into the front line due to players being fatigued. Never mentioned names, but it doesn’t take much working out who is being referred to, in JJ’s case. The other player, to maybe be rested, could well be young Smithy, who has had more than his fair share of football lately?
The article also quoted the manager in saying that’s whyCJ was taken out of the cup game, as he’s done a fair few 90 minute games (so, relief all round that he’s not injured).
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Bob, what evidence do you have that players look in on web forums now and again?
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Apart from the human nature angle and ego, a friend of mine played at the highest level and is currently managing, quite successfully. I will take his view on this subject above yours and mine. Believe me they do.
And then we have player's parents, and no doubt friends and former team mates. We only have to look to the posts by New Donny to confirm that.
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Sorry but in my opinion we need a different option.
Fejiri Okenabirhie .
IMO he is being isolated by playing just one forward up front and that says more about Darren Moore’s tactics and being unable to give him a partner to play along side , after all DM tracked him for over six months before we could sign him , so he can’t be that bad a player ?
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He isn’t a bad player. Full Stop.
DM would not have signed him if he wasn’t good enough.
Give him time. He has got 6 goals and he isn’t at his best yet. So how many will he get when he is.
Why oh why do some people have to have a scapegoat. Even Marquis got stick on here and some thought he wasn’t up to it. :zzz:
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He isn’t a bad player. Full Stop.
DM would not have signed him if he wasn’t good enough.
Give him time. He has got 6 goals and he isn’t at his best yet. So how many will he get when he is.
Why oh why do some people have to have a scapegoat. Even Marquis got stick on here and some thought he wasn’t up to it. :zzz:
I think you are being a bit naive if you think that if DM signs someone they must be good enough. No manager ever signs a player he doesn't think is good enough. Whether they actually turn out to be good enough is open to question. Let's face it we have signed some dross over the years but we only found that out over the fullness of time.
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It's not that bad though EFD, The Wendies say they have spent £350 million on dross, and Derby have spent more, how bad have their managers been?
There isn't a lot wrong with any of our squad at the moment, I think we have as strong a squad as we have had for some time, and given the average age and their limited experience of league football in some cases,I can only see us getting better over time, and I include Fej in that group as he adjusts to a different style of play to what he has been used to, and six goals is a very good return on the number of games he has played in.
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I didn't say it was bad at all. I was just trying to make the point that DM is not infallible. I hope Fej does come good but for me the jury is still very much out.