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Title: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: The Red Baron on April 15, 2019, 04:44:53 pm
Sunderland AFC (First Team) v Doncaster Rovers FC (First Team)
Football League 1   
Referee: Woolmer, Andy
Assistant Referee: McGrath, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Dwyer, Mark
Fourth Official: Backhouse, Anthony

Not happy with that!
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: RedJ on April 15, 2019, 04:46:01 pm
Oh Christ.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: drfchound on April 15, 2019, 10:38:17 pm
Well, it will be on the telly so at least everyone else will see how crap he is.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: Donnywolf on April 16, 2019, 07:49:06 am
Hell fire

I think he has the worst 2 Points totals since records began

Last time v Scunny he had 41 people give him NIL - and the time before v Rochdale it was over 30 people whi gave him NIL
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: The Red Baron on April 17, 2019, 01:24:43 pm
Well, it will be on the telly so at least everyone else will see how crap he is.

I suppose it is possible he'll be on his best behaviour. Personally I'm surprised a top flight referee wasn't appointed.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: bobbymax on April 19, 2019, 07:23:33 pm
Utter tool who chickened out of every major decision if it didn't favour the home side.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: Champagne Super Rovers on April 19, 2019, 07:32:34 pm
Absolute joke.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: Darren on April 19, 2019, 07:36:07 pm
Utter *anker
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: Donnywolf on April 19, 2019, 08:10:07 pm
NIL ... So he was as bad as us
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: drfchound on April 19, 2019, 08:13:14 pm
One of the most inept ref performances I have ever seen.
My blood pressure is just coming  down to somewhere near normal.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: RoversAlias on April 19, 2019, 08:43:21 pm
Doesn't even deserve the zero. Garbage.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: glosterred on April 19, 2019, 09:51:18 pm
Effing useless, poor from the first minute to the last


COYR
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: idler on April 19, 2019, 10:21:10 pm
An absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: RobTheRover on April 20, 2019, 01:25:32 am
Worst ref in the league, by far. I've never seen him officiate a game where I thought he didn't get at least 2 key decisions wrong. He just bottles all the big decisions in the final third and gives soft free kicks in the middle third.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: The Red Baron on April 20, 2019, 01:54:24 am
Worst ref in the league, by far. I've never seen him officiate a game where I thought he didn't get at least 2 key decisions wrong. He just bottles all the big decisions in the final third and gives soft free kicks in the middle third.

He makes Boyeson, Salisbury senior and Haines look like decent referees. He's awful and for once I agree with Neil Warnock - refereeing standards have never been lower. They need to get rid of Mike Riley as head of referees, put someone like Martin Atkinson or Mark Clattenburg in charge, and give them the power to sack bad referees.

One thing I'd do is to encourage ex-players to become referees. It works well with cricket umpires. It would be good to have someone who understands football refereeing a game with a degree of empathy. They'd probably be a lot fitter than the likes of Woolmer who was way behind play when Marquis was fouled on the edge of the box. Of course, Sunderland went up the other end and scored.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 20, 2019, 08:03:25 am
If there was a minus points category, I’d vote in that. Zero it has to be. Needs demoting to tiddlywinks or something.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: drfchound on April 20, 2019, 08:16:51 am
Worst ref in the league, by far. I've never seen him officiate a game where I thought he didn't get at least 2 key decisions wrong. He just bottles all the big decisions in the final third and gives soft free kicks in the middle third.

He makes Boyeson, Salisbury senior and Haines look like decent referees. He's awful and for once I agree with Neil Warnock - refereeing standards have never been lower. They need to get rid of Mike Riley as head of referees, put someone like Martin Atkinson or Mark Clattenburg in charge, and give them the power to sack bad referees.

One thing I'd do is to encourage ex-players to become referees. It works well with cricket umpires. It would be good to have someone who understands football refereeing a game with a degree of empathy. They'd probably be a lot fitter than the likes of Woolmer who was way behind play when Marquis was fouled on the edge of the box. Of course, Sunderland went up the other end and scored.






.......and on that last point, despite people saying the refs are not at fault for a poor team display, they do have a big impact on the outcome of games.
Had he given that free kick early on, Sunderland wouldn’t have gone up and scored as they did.
So the game starts differently.

Also If he had given the pen on Butler and we had scored to make it 2-1 with 20 minutes to play then we may have gone on to get a point.

Conjecture?
Obviously yes but poor officials do influence the way games turn out.
Title: Re: Sunderland v Rovers - 19/4/19- Andy Woolmer
Post by: Donnywolf on April 20, 2019, 04:07:59 pm
... and not just for the two Teams involved either. SAFC justifiably won yesterday as we were poor but as you say give the Marquis foul and it would have altered the game even if we shot over the Bar

Give the Butler Pen and if we score who knows 2 - 1 with 20 to go. Squeaky bum time for them and maybe an unlikely draw but it happens

So all other Teams are affected too - Barnsley and Pompey especially. SAFC now right on BFC tail thanks to those extra 2 points. Wonder what Tyke reckons. We still go on about the Dunk tackle and the Charlton abandonment and how our Season(s) were subsequently affected. So that could be what others will think - even though they are not playing their own "fate" is still altered. I realise this happens each week at every kind of ground but it needs sorting

Yesterday 2 keepers caught Balls in similar situations outside the area - one got a straight Red the other (Owl) got a yellow - NO CONSISTENCY.

The only time you see some kind of consistency is when Player takes shirt off and 99.9 % of them are awarded a Yellow Card - all other offences vary Ref to Ref and often vary within a Game by the Ref on duty

It stinks and should be fixed