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The slight uptick in cases is a worry, the question is what rate that growth continues or stops.Of course the 2 week half term in Doncaster starts this weekend so that should naturally help. I see the point on masks, does that need government to mandate it? We all have a choice and are aware of the facts so are all aware of the risks. Indeed how many of us will wear one at the game tomorrow?
Sorry you are right I was looking at the complete wrong thing
40,000+ infections a day7,000+ in hospital150 dying every dayIt's like it's normal. It's not normal.We've got to live with it. What does that even mean? Pretend it's not happening?
UK nurses do not qualify to be high tech, high pay workers apparently.What's your definition of this Sydney? How much extra would you pay a nurse?
Criticise before it and you're alarmist.Criticise during it and you're not patriotic.Criticise after it and it's all hindsight.When is the right time to be critical?
Quote from: River Don on October 16, 2021, 11:56:26 pmCriticise before it and you're alarmist.Criticise during it and you're not patriotic.Criticise after it and it's all hindsight.When is the right time to be critical? Posters are rebuked on the football forum for only posting negatives when stats suit their agenda but go quiet when they don't. This is EXACTLY the same thing occurring on here.
Wilts, why didn't you show this graph to us between April and June?
Im sure things are worrying for some people but I just called at asda [Stainy] and only me 'n mrs wolfie were wearing masksI estimate during the time from when we pulled up to when we left 100 people had gone in , or were in or came out .So that's 2% wearing masks [with accompanying sniggers and stares] when 40000 cases a day are racking up so do people still think "it" wont happen to them. Either way if another Lockdown comes will they feel any guilt whatsoever
Quote from: River Don on October 17, 2021, 12:34:53 am40,000+ infections a day7,000+ in hospital150 dying every dayIt's like it's normal. It's not normal.We've got to live with it. What does that even mean? Pretend it's not happening?We have to live with cancer, RD, and lots of other things that the scientists can't fathom.Most of us have had our jabs. What else can we do but live with it?
Quote from: scawsby steve on October 17, 2021, 02:49:03 amQuote from: River Don on October 17, 2021, 12:34:53 am40,000+ infections a day7,000+ in hospital150 dying every dayIt's like it's normal. It's not normal.We've got to live with it. What does that even mean? Pretend it's not happening?We have to live with cancer, RD, and lots of other things that the scientists can't fathom.Most of us have had our jabs. What else can we do but live with it?Surely it's about living with it effectively SS?Thankfully, due to medical advances, many people don't just live with cancer. They manage their lives and treatment effectively to create a quality of life.We still have a third of the population in this country who haven't been jabbed and are totally exposed to this rampant disease. That's over 20 million people or a population almost equivalent to that of Australia.So as a start, mandatory wearing of masks in public places, maintaining social distancing and working from home where possible are quick wins while we vaccinate millions more of our country men and women.Only then can we truly start 'living' with this darn thing.
Agree bpool but those things are less of a quick win aren't they. There's serious money at stake and lots of vested interests which tells you what the real agenda is.Having been to a couple of premier league games recently with 50k+ crowds there's no doubt in my mind that these are still super-spreader events. If I had my way they'd be having their capacities capped at 25% for the rest of this season.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on October 16, 2021, 10:41:54 pmWilts, why didn't you show this graph to us between April and June? Plenty of other posters did that BB, didn't need me to do it.Looking at the graph and the story of the current situation in hospital A&E's togther BB - what do you think of the situation on 17th October 2021?
Quote from: BigH on October 17, 2021, 03:50:42 pmAgree bpool but those things are less of a quick win aren't they. There's serious money at stake and lots of vested interests which tells you what the real agenda is.Having been to a couple of premier league games recently with 50k+ crowds there's no doubt in my mind that these are still super-spreader events. If I had my way they'd be having their capacities capped at 25% for the rest of this season. again maybe but with the pubs open everybody would just go there instead, the other countries have kept numbers down by keeping things closed, in Spain for example you can eat outside no problem as it's 25 degrees we don't have that option, at the minute the numbers are worrying but if this school holidays break gets the numbers down then things will look better hopefully
Quote from: BigH on October 17, 2021, 02:57:16 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 17, 2021, 02:49:03 amQuote from: River Don on October 17, 2021, 12:34:53 am40,000+ infections a day7,000+ in hospital150 dying every dayIt's like it's normal. It's not normal.We've got to live with it. What does that even mean? Pretend it's not happening?We have to live with cancer, RD, and lots of other things that the scientists can't fathom.Most of us have had our jabs. What else can we do but live with it?Surely it's about living with it effectively SS?Thankfully, due to medical advances, many people don't just live with cancer. They manage their lives and treatment effectively to create a quality of life.We still have a third of the population in this country who haven't been jabbed and are totally exposed to this rampant disease. That's over 20 million people or a population almost equivalent to that of Australia.So as a start, mandatory wearing of masks in public places, maintaining social distancing and working from home where possible are quick wins while we vaccinate millions more of our country men and women.Only then can we truly start 'living' with this darn thing.There's much of that post that I disagree with, BigH. I think that the medical advances in prevention and cures for cancer over the last 50 years have been inadequate when you consider the billions they've had from most of us in charity donations. I've lost many family members and close friends to this horrible disease, and there are more people dying of it now than ever.Regarding the millions still unvaccinated, many of them don't want it, and you can't make them have it.As far as masks and social distancing is concerned, do you want us to live with restrictions forever? If we do, you might as well say that the virus has beaten us.There's no way I'd ever wear a mask for 2 hours at the Rovers. Even if we ever have a good team again.
Quote from: wilts rover on October 17, 2021, 10:02:35 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on October 16, 2021, 10:41:54 pmWilts, why didn't you show this graph to us between April and June? Plenty of other posters did that BB, didn't need me to do it.Looking at the graph and the story of the current situation in hospital A&E's togther BB - what do you think of the situation on 17th October 2021?But, you see Wilts, if you were to tell the whole truth, for once, you'd admit you didn't want to comment on the graph between April and June because they didn't help your agenda, did they?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on October 16, 2021, 10:41:54 pmWilts, why didn't you show this graph to us between April and June? Plenty of other posters did that BB, didn't need me to do it.Looking at the graph and the story of the current situation in hospital A&E's togther BB - what do you think of the situation on 17th October 2021?