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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: DN3 Rover on February 16, 2017, 08:29:28 am
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There's a programme on BBC2 tonight about Russian thugs preparing for next years WC be a warning to anyone on here going next year just the usual BBC scare mongering, it will probably show the trouble at last years tournament where that Leeds fan from Donny Ado Williams got attacked by them Russian ultras in Lyon at the England v Russia game
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So just to be clear DN3, despite the violence by Russian ultras at last years Euros, you are confident that there will be no trouble at next years World Cup and any suggestion of it is just 'BBC propoganda'?
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Marseille not Lyon.
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Leeds fan from Donny Ado Williams got attacked by them Russian ultras in Lyon at the England v Russia game
His surname isn't Williams
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Propaganda?
Fun and games in Russia in 2007. Anyone in the Cosmos hotel will tell you.
As for Marseille? Worst trouble I've ever seen at football. Gangs of Russians in matching T shirts and MMA gloves attacking all and sundry - very very organised acts by large groups.
Saw 3 people kicked unconscious on the way to the ground and French police indiscriminate use of tear gas to move the crowd along (I was hit by a canister)
I thought nothing about going to South Africa when there were scare stories about what would happen at the world cup there but no way will I be revisiting Russia
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There's a programme on BBC2 tonight about Russian thugs preparing for next years WC be a warning to anyone on here going next year just the usual BBC scare mongering, it will probably show the trouble at last years tournament where that Leeds fan from Donny Ado Williams got attacked by them Russian ultras in Lyon at the England v Russia game
So even though the BBC will be reporting what you acknowledge actually did happen, it's scaremongering??
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Leeds fan from Donny Ado Williams got attacked by them Russian ultras in Lyon at the England v Russia game
His surname isn't Williams
Probably a Wild guess, every thing else sounds plausible ;)
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According to FIFA President he is not concerned about the possible problems there next World Cup.. Probably because he will be surrounded by security staff
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You've got to have a few wires loose or be uber-dedicated to go over there. Be plenty of trouble over there.
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I was out In Moscow for a Chelsea game against Cska Moscow about 8 9 or 10 years ago.
Was there for 3 nights before the game and on the piss with no real stress but day before game ,day of game and after game you had to a lot more street wise .
One thing I will say about Moscow is that it's the best city I have visited ever and when we flew out I actually said to myself that I had been somewhere.
The moscow underground stations that serve red square are just mind blowing .
As for any England fan thinking about going to Russia for the World Cup out there just take this onboard .
Russian lads were seen paying off the security to fcuk off who were outside the hotel ukerain where all the Chelsea lot were drinking at 02:00 in the morning after the cska v Chelsea game had been played.the hotel was then attacked by the Russians .
This was a few years ago when the Russians were still trying to find their feet on the FV front.today they have gone beyond and will take no prisoners
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It would hurt Russia far more if the England fans boycotted it completely.
They would lose millions.
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I think Oslo has it spot on. The Russians have up'd there game and even have women in training to attack other women going to the World Cup. Personally I hope both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 are a huge embarrassment to FIFA and hope they lose lots of money in the process!
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Qatar will be ok, they will lob that much dough at it that it won't be a failure. We should have been hosting the next tournament though not Russia. It's a joke.
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Qatar will be shocking, no entries on the pub finder app for that hell hole! There's only sand there to build sand castles, not really a football fans idea of "having a good time "
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Let's be clear, the prime purpose of the BBC is a propaganda machine of the state, or the status quo. Beyond that it does lots of good too, and sugar coating serves the prime purpose well.
There is a problem in Russia, especially if someone from outside is fancying a bit of macho fun and games. And their gangster system is less sophisicated or covert in some ways that ours, so easy to pick on. The BBC/state is keen on anything that can make them out to be the baddies and exploits this, magnifies the fear, the same as it likes to magnify the fear of things back home that challenge the status quo.
Both the Russian and Qatar WCs are questionable, as Brazil was, and even the whole concept of the WC as it's become.
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You been smoking something good there Bristol?
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As England fans we've already been to both countries, Russia and Qatar, and both were a massive disappointment. As PDS mentioned earlier when we were there in 2007 the Cosmos Hotel was the centre of quite a lot of attention, from prostitutes (never seen so many!) and the local Moscow hooligans who had access to all the bars and reception areas. Random attacks took place all over the city, in bars, the metro and streets. But Moscow is such a dour and miserable place, service in restaurants non-existent, travel very complicated and accommodation lacking in any kind of quality.
Qatar a different proposition altogether, although still as disappointing. It has one city of any note and the only place to get a drink is in the major tourist hotels, hardly setting itself up as an attractive destination for a football tournament.
The BBC are very good at doing pre-tournament hooligan stories, they've done it before all recent tournaments, Brazil, Ukraine/Poland and South Africa, and yet they turned out to be wonderful and well worth the effort, especially South Africa which will remain with me forever.
France, a modern western democracy, provided one of the poorest tournaments I've ever attended. Not just the hooliganism in Marseilles but the whole approach from the authorities was poor and sadly lacking. In every venue they resorted to firing off tear gas as a first and only solution to all their problems. Seeing the picture on TV last night of the riots against the Police throughout the Paris region didn't surprise me one bit.
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' Let's be clear, the prime purpose of the BBC is a propaganda machine of the state, or the status quo.'
how about some 'clear ' fact based evidence to support this statement.
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' Let's be clear, the prime purpose of the BBC is a propaganda machine of the state, or the status quo.'
how about some 'clear ' fact based evidence to support this statement.
Facts about propaganda :laugh:
Research pretty much any significant news story that centres around the establishment's interests and you can see what the BBC highlights and omits. This is especially prominent in breaking news. It's not that different in any country throughout history, it's normal. You can see it, or you can consume it, good luck :scarf:
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' Let's be clear, the prime purpose of the BBC is a propaganda machine of the state, or the status quo.'
how about some 'clear ' fact based evidence to support this statement.
Orgreave and associated events during 1984
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' Let's be clear, the prime purpose of the BBC is a propaganda machine of the state, or the status quo.'
how about some 'clear ' fact based evidence to support this statement.
Facts about propaganda :laugh:
Research pretty much any significant news story that centres around the establishment's interests and you can see what the BBC highlights and omits. This is especially prominent in breaking news. It's not that different in any country throughout history, it's normal. You can see it, or you can consume it, good luck :scarf:
Why do so many right-wingers claim the BB is biased to the left then..?
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There's a programme on BBC2 tonight about Russian thugs preparing for next years WC be a warning to anyone on here going next year just the usual BBC scare mongering, it will probably show the trouble at last years tournament where that Leeds fan from Donny Ado Williams got attacked by them Russian ultras in Lyon at the England v Russia game
Think I will watch this
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As for Moscow as a city should you get the chance to visit jump at it.
For me the best thing about the place was no fcuker spoke English
so you had to work it all out yourself.
And it's not as if you fall out of one pub into another ,no way as you had to put the ground work in.
When you walk round any normall European city your eyes are allways at street level,not in Moscow as there is just as much too see with the roof tops .
It's backwards for sure and that's the best thing about it ,you even put your life in the hands of your taxi as the one we was in from the airport to red square was sinking of petrol fumes and all of us were sick when we got out,not too mention the trance the driver was in and his blood shot red eyes.
If you want a great location for food and drink try the chesterfield boar house ,it's a taxi ride out to it but well worth the trip .
There was small old lady's basically fighting each other to keep the streets clean ,endnote if a leaf hit the floor it got swept up asap.
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Bbc will probably blame Donald Trump for Russian hooligans.
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Has anyone found a single syllable in the OP's post that has turned out to be accurate, truthful and worth reading?
BobG
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As for Moscow as a city should you get the chance to visit jump at it.
For me the best thing about the place was no fcuker spoke English
so you had to work it all out yourself.
And it's not as if you fall out of one pub into another ,no way as you had to put the ground work in.
When you walk round any normall European city your eyes are allways at street level,not in Moscow as there is just as much too see with the roof tops .
It's backwards for sure and that's the best thing about it ,you even put your life in the hands of your taxi as the one we was in from the airport to red square was sinking of petrol fumes and all of us were sick when we got out,not too mention the trance the driver was in and his blood shot red eyes.
If you want a great location for food and drink try the chesterfield boar house ,it's a taxi ride out to it but well worth the trip .
There was small old lady's basically fighting each other to keep the streets clean ,endnote if a leaf hit the floor it got swept up asap.
Agree with you. Moscovites are not the friendliest of people and like you say, very few of them speak English, but it is a city that I would recommend to those who like somewhere different and a bit mystical. Great architecture and the Metro stations including Ploschad Revolutsi are certainly worth taking note of. I went back in 2010 and the price of a pint was about £6 and it was an expensive city, so I don't know about nowadays. As SM said though, customer service is basically non existent.
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My sister in law is Russian. They are a very odd race.
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Did anyone watch it?
They basically have the equivalent of a youth development for becoming a hooligan for the club and instead of a contract offer you get the tattoo if you're good enough to fight for them.
Bit different to 10 lads in a pub getting legless and deciding to throw chairs.
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I watched it. Seemed to suggest Putin was clamping down on them and the head honchos would struggle to remain active for the World Cup
They certainly know their stuff though - referring to the English shitholes Luton and Leeds.
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The film were it showed you the youths going into the wood to fight is an old clip and you can see many more videos if you look online of this sort of thing they even used to have a league the footage was tame compared to others , the poles and Germans have been doing this as well to take it away from cities and towns so they don't get caught
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I watched it. Seemed to suggest Putin was clamping down on them and the head honchos would struggle to remain active for the World Cup
They certainly know their stuff though - referring to the English shitholes Luton and Leeds.
Putin funds it! State sponsored hooliganism. How many Russians got identified and arrested after the Euros? 0, nil, Zilch.
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Did you watch it? It stated some fellas were currently in prison for their part in the Marseille trouble.
There's also been legislation brought in to ban troublemakers.
Perhaps Putin is funding it - there's no evidence to say he is - but it's not really in his interests for the Russian World Cup to turn into the biggest MMA bout we've ever seen.
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I watched it. Seemed to suggest Putin was clamping down on them and the head honchos would struggle to remain active for the World Cup
They certainly know their stuff though - referring to the English shitholes Luton and Leeds.
Putin funds it! State sponsored hooliganism. How many Russians got identified and arrested after the Euros? 0, nil, Zilch.
Nonsense. The difference between the Russians and our fans is they really want a fight and our fans don't. Our fans are pussies that just want to throw a few bottles around trying to look hard.
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thank heavens for that then.
we certainly don't want Russian style hooliganism over here !
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Has anyone found a single syllable in the OP's post that has turned out to be accurate, truthful and worth reading?
BobG
Thanks for pointing that out Bob, posting off one of them I phones with predictive text sorry for that, just moved back to area after a messy split up from from misses, been a few years since a regular at a drfc been living south of leicester last 3 years, I'll need to get a laptop for future. Cheers for pointing it out Bob.
up the reds
Rod.
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There was an interview with a full mask wearing Russian lad who spoke very good English he basically said that today's English fans were garbage and in the bin along with the british and Western European cultures.
What he meant was that we have all gone soft and swung far too much over to the PC side of outlook and the Russian way of thinking is
far more patriotic.
When I see footage of England fans today I see what he means,as there is untold that are part of normall joe public in day to day life whilst in the U.K. ,but as soon they go abroad with England and after a few Stella's they start to act all billy big b*llocks and try to think they are back in the 1980s or early 1990s ,and that's as far as it goes
The police across Europe today are in more control of things but back in my time there was running battles with locals then the police would turn up and the running battles would turn into locals and police VI's England lads with Italy been worst county for this .
In Spain is was just the police v England lads as the Spanish police were the most brutal across Europe and did not fcuk about tbh.
If these Russian mobs had been at their peak during the 1980s early 1990s and whenever they played England it would have been pure carnage with body's laid out fall over from both sides.
Man to man the Russians would have been better I guess, if say 200 highly trained Russian non drinking nut job regiment turned up ,there would have far more than enough English lads to cope with that pissed up or not.
I was out in Berlin for the England friendly against Germany just before the euros in France,and there was one certain incident that happened out there that told me and I did warn any mates from donny going to the Russia v England to watch their backs.
As for going to Russia for the World Cup you have to allways think of worse case situations ,and that would be the totall lack of control the Russian police have or show with their own hooligans .just because your sat in your hotel bar having a drink don't mean your safe out there going on previous experience 10 years back.
Don't bother taking a flag out there as you be an idiot if you do and deserve whatever you get.
The Russians don't target certain England fans ,as them certain England fans are never out in force these days for obvious reasons.your problem is that the Russians will target ALL types of England fans when they strike,and in Moscow they will strike at most unlikely times as in the 24hour clock.
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I don't think there's anything particularly patriotic about indiscriminately beating up drunk foreigners.
And I'm not sure England fans have gone soft, they've probably just grown up or become more educated.
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Sadly on a number of occasions this season we've seen names and faces on the big screen of Rovers supporters who have been taken from us far to early and most recently a minutes applause on the 58th minute (also observed by the away fans) Then you see these arseholes latching on to football with the sole intent of knocking the living daylights out of anyone who happens to be in their way.
The reporter in the program was relieved that no-one was seriously injured or worse. Personally I was saddened that they all managed to get up and walk away
Thankfully I can just about remember attending matches where you could stand next to opposition fans and have proper good humoured banter but I can't really recall when it all started going tribal and pear shaped.
I believe it was Bill Shankley who said football wasn't about life or death, it was more important than that . How wrong can you be
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I think somebody should tell the Russians that the party they've been preparing for all these years ended about 20 years ago, and everybody's gone home.
I also think Rovers Return has a right to be miffed about the behaviour of the Russians seeing as he had both his young boys with him as the Russians invaded the square were everybody was enjoying a pre-match meal. They didn't pick on any England firm, nor did they seek out those England supporters who would quite gladly have taken them up on their offer. They picked off people in side streets, families sat around having something to eat. And at the end of the match they marched into the 'International' section, not the England end. If they had managed to get to the English you would have seen something completely different as the England following still has a certain element of supporter.
The pictures on the BBC last night showed the young England following, young lads who were probably at their first tournament, behaving naively and enjoying the day out in the main squre by the harbour. Innocents mostly.
Good on those tough Russiand though eh, Putins Russia must be a god forsaken place.
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The Daily star have announced that England fans are going to Russia with a so called 'super firm' to get revenge on the Russians. Then you read the story and realise just how made up it is. Apparently majority of the 3000 banning orders end just before the world cup.
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Suppose they'll be going to Russia to escape all these killer storms...
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The Daily star have announced that England fans are going to Russia with a so called 'super firm' to get revenge on the Russians. Then you read the story and realise just how made up it is. Apparently majority of the 3000 banning orders end just before the world cup.
How many of those banning orders are connected to England games and how many are to do with violence? Not many at all would be my answer.
For those who don't know, getting to England away games, officially, is virtually impossible if you have any type of record at all. All members of the official England members club are Police checked on application, any record of any sort means you won't be getting in. Failure to pick up your tickets means you get excluded, pick up any kind of Police warning and again you are kicked out of the club. You can do it independently if you wish but it does become so much harder.
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The Daily star have announced that England fans are going to Russia with a so called 'super firm' to get revenge on the Russians. Then you read the story and realise just how made up it is. Apparently majority of the 3000 banning orders end just before the world cup.
How many of those banning orders are connected to England games and how many are to do with violence? Not many at all would be my answer.
For those who don't know, getting to England away games, officially, is virtually impossible if you have any type of record at all. All members of the official England members club are Police checked on application, any record of any sort means you won't be getting in. Failure to pick up your tickets means you get excluded, pick up any kind of Police warning and again you are kicked out of the club. You can do it independently if you wish but it does become so much harder.
Yes but how many will just go to where England are playing with no intention of watching the game?
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Getting tickets for big tournaments is in fact easier than getting them from the travel club fifa put tickets up for sale 6/12 months before the tournament starts and you can even pick which team and games you want tickets for
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I got the knock for England club membership back in 1991 by the English fa cow praticia f smith.
Hence to say I never went on any England official tours but allways made my own plans to fly out.
As for match tickets that was no problem as I would allways ways use the local black market for a match ticket and it's never failed me yet.only problem was that we was allways In the home parts of the ground on England away days.
That 1-5 in Munich was something else as there was about 20 of us bang in middle of the home end which was behind the other goal to where all you England fans were.
Slovakia and Albania away was the most dangerous home ends we have been in as the home support was full of nut jobs on a mission.
Recall when I got pulled outside Charlio Belgium train station with no match ticket for the Germany game.was cuffed up and put into back of a van and thought I was on my way home .
Never carried a passport with me for obvious reasons and the Belgium police could not understand my Yorkshire accent as when they asked me for my second name I spelt it out to them and they write it down and passed it onto the policeman sat on a computer and they got the spelling completely wrong and the name they put into the data base came up clean so I was free to go.
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Plenty of people go to england games without tickets especially the euros and world cup finals looking for tickets on the black market and sometimes you drop on someone who sells there ticket for £10 or £20 more than face value instead of the normally £100
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Plenty of people go to england games without tickets especially the euros and world cup finals looking for tickets on the black market and sometimes you drop on someone who sells there ticket for £10 or £20 more than face value instead of the normally £100
There's a difference between going to a finals tournament than going to qualifying games along the way. And yes some people do pick up tickets for not much more than face value, and the English are very very good at it, but there's an awful lot who don't. During Germany 2006 there was an estimated 100,000 English present in most cities where England played, but only about 6 to 8,000 actually got in. And all tickets bought that way will be in the away end or neutral section, they certainly won't be in the official England end.
To suggest that getting tickets for big tournaments is easier through FIFA than the official travel club is stretching a point. If you want to see England and be in the England enc then the only way to get tickets is through the travel club.
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To get to the top end of the caps table for the travel club costs a fair whack. There's probably not much difference in cost between regularly totting up loyalty points by attending every qualifying game possible and paying black market prices at the time of the finals. But as you say, you just won't get in with the official fans if you do the latter.
When England were in Lisbon though, it looked like there was more England fans than Portugal fans - so you might end up surrounded by England fans anyway even if you do buy through unofficial channels.
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The travel club is at an all time low in terms of numbers though, so you won't have to be at the top end to ensure tickets for a finals. I haven't been at the top for a number of years and yet still get allocated tickets whenever I want them.
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Do you still go alot of games Martin?
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How many are in the travel club? I noticed Scotland away didn't even sell out the other year as general sale wasn't allowed?
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Do you still go alot of games Martin?
I tend not to do Wembley any more because it's usually full of tourists. I still do the odd one but it depends who the opposition are. I pick and choose my away games depending on location and whether Ive been there before or not and so far still do all the tournament finals. After we lost in Nice to Iceland I declared my England career over and done, as did a lot of others, but I rejoined and have done a few since.
Looking forward to Malta away and Scotland!
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Germany away will be a good one. The germans aren't taking it as seriously as we do so there'll be plenty of tickets. Looming forward to it, england coming to see me rather than the other way round
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But it's a friendly yet again. And so is France away. We're getting boring playing the same teams.
I'm sure you'll enjoy it though especially as it's in Dortmund. Had to give my ticket up as it clashes with something else.
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How many are in the travel club? I noticed Scotland away didn't even sell out the other year as general sale wasn't allowed?
General sale is never allowed for England away games, it's travel club or nothing. I need to check numbers of the travel club but it is low.
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About 3 years ago I read something that said over the next year watch out for anti-Russian propaganda, since then I've heard nothing but this. The hidden hand is at work World War III is coming. Have my doubts that Kim Jung Un's brother was murdered by the North Koreans.
I may get ridiculed for not towing the party line on this but who cares I am a Beast not a sheep.
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Basically, if somebody even offered me an all expenses paid trip to the World Cup for 2 weeks including spending money and a KGB security team I still wouldn't go
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Basically, if somebody even offered me an all expenses paid trip to the World Cup for 2 weeks including spending money and a KGB security team I still wouldn't go
I would have some of that for sure.
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I'd love to go watch England in a big tournament. Did plan on France last year but a combination of things ensured that was a no go!
It's certainly on my "to do" list though in the next 10 years. Definetly will be giving Russia a miss though,it'll be madness. Anybody with a brain should stay at home and watch it in a safer environment!
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Roll on USA 2026
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Qatar will be shocking, no entries on the pub finder app for that hell hole! There's only sand there to build sand castles, not really a football fans idea of "having a good time "
I take it you have been?? I live out here. everyone will be fine and well lubricated!!
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As England fans we've already been to both countries, Russia and Qatar, and both were a massive disappointment. As PDS mentioned earlier when we were there in 2007 the Cosmos Hotel was the centre of quite a lot of attention, from prostitutes (never seen so many!) and the local Moscow hooligans who had access to all the bars and reception areas. Random attacks took place all over the city, in bars, the metro and streets. But Moscow is such a dour and miserable place, service in restaurants non-existent, travel very complicated and accommodation lacking in any kind of quality.
Qatar a different proposition altogether, although still as disappointing. It has one city of any note and the only place to get a drink is in the major tourist hotels, hardly setting itself up as an attractive destination for a football tournament.
The BBC are very good at doing pre-tournament hooligan stories, they've done it before all recent tournaments, Brazil, Ukraine/Poland and South Africa, and yet they turned out to be wonderful and well worth the effort, especially South Africa which will remain with me forever.
France, a modern western democracy, provided one of the poorest tournaments I've ever attended. Not just the hooliganism in Marseilles but the whole approach from the authorities was poor and sadly lacking. In every venue they resorted to firing off tear gas as a first and only solution to all their problems. Seeing the picture on TV last night of the riots against the Police throughout the Paris region didn't surprise me one bit.
SM, To back up my other post. yes the bars are in hotels. But i tell you they knock the socks off any bar in Donny!!!Just be ready for the Chinese attention :whistle:
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Qatar will be shocking, no entries on the pub finder app for that hell hole! There's only sand there to build sand castles, not really a football fans idea of "having a good time "
I take it you have been?? I live out here. everyone will be fine and well lubricated!!
No I haven't been but I've had a lot of testimonies from people who have been along with manana in Bahrain. It's over ten pound a pint and the amount of rich Saudi men going over there to let there beards down by offering western men tens of thousands of pounds for sex is quite alarming!
I'm sure everyone would be fine but it's hardly a footballing pilgrimage is it, nor is it top of many westerners bucket list for places to visit before they die!
Plus, with the ever increasing likelihood that the tournament will be played in December, it's far from ideal is it!
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As England fans we've already been to both countries, Russia and Qatar, and both were a massive disappointment. As PDS mentioned earlier when we were there in 2007 the Cosmos Hotel was the centre of quite a lot of attention, from prostitutes (never seen so many!) and the local Moscow hooligans who had access to all the bars and reception areas. Random attacks took place all over the city, in bars, the metro and streets. But Moscow is such a dour and miserable place, service in restaurants non-existent, travel very complicated and accommodation lacking in any kind of quality.
Qatar a different proposition altogether, although still as disappointing. It has one city of any note and the only place to get a drink is in the major tourist hotels, hardly setting itself up as an attractive destination for a football tournament.
The BBC are very good at doing pre-tournament hooligan stories, they've done it before all recent tournaments, Brazil, Ukraine/Poland and South Africa, and yet they turned out to be wonderful and well worth the effort, especially South Africa which will remain with me forever.
France, a modern western democracy, provided one of the poorest tournaments I've ever attended. Not just the hooliganism in Marseilles but the whole approach from the authorities was poor and sadly lacking. In every venue they resorted to firing off tear gas as a first and only solution to all their problems. Seeing the picture on TV last night of the riots against the Police throughout the Paris region didn't surprise me one bit.
SM, To back up my other post. yes the bars are in hotels. But i tell you they knock the socks off any bar in Donny!!!Just be ready for the Chinese attention :whistle:
I can just see it now,
"Hey, fellas, lets go up to the mezzanine of this hotel and drink in that bar, hope they've got some good guest ales on and see what the local talent is like"!!!!!
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It's was piss easy to get free drinks whenever drinking in hotel bars especially if shit loads of england fans landed in same hotel aswell during the confusion and stress for the bar staff.
Recall one Chelsea champions league game in Brussels and we had all
just got into our hotel day before the game .must have been about 70 of us.
All checked and were sat down in the hotel bar having a couple of beers when the Fulham police all checked into the same hotel we was in.
As the Fulham old bill were all up in their rooms doing whatever Fulham old bill do in their rooms all the lads downstairs were drinking on two hotel bar rooms bar bill that was set up and left behind the bar.
Said two rooms were part of the Fulham police party that had just checked in.
We was all still sat downstairs on our 3rd or 4th bottles with no end of bowls of soup that went out as Fulham police walked throu and by us all all kitted out as Fulham olde bill.
The police could quite figure out why we was all laughing so much ,well not u till they Checked out in the morning.
" how many Stella's and what is all these bowls of soup all about as Iam sure we never had no soup at all Sargent"
all you need is a name and room number that match
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Qatar will be shocking, no entries on the pub finder app for that hell hole! There's only sand there to build sand castles, not really a football fans idea of "having a good time "
I take it you have been?? I live out here. everyone will be fine and well lubricated!!
No I haven't been but I've had a lot of testimonies from people who have been along with manana in Bahrain. It's over ten pound a pint and the amount of rich Saudi men going over there to let there beards down by offering western men tens of thousands of pounds for sex is quite alarming!
I'm sure everyone would be fine but it's hardly a footballing pilgrimage is it, nor is it top of many westerners bucket list for places to visit before they die!
Plus, with the ever increasing likelihood that the tournament will be played in December, it's far from ideal is it!
I have lived in Manama for the last 4 years!! never heard of or come across this!! 6 pound is the going rate for a pint of Stella, proportionate to most of Europe. Yes the Saudis escape here across the causeway to the bar at the end of the pier :). But never have i hear or come across the propositions you say, most are w**kered on their 1st beer and just want to fight each other!! (this in its self is piss funny to watch) I agree though with the temperature in July/August 50+ is normal, and not ideal.