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Quote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:29:42 pmQuote from: Filo on September 16, 2021, 01:23:07 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you?I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is entitled to disagree, but it is noticeable that your replies to certain posters are becoming more aggresiveNice answer, Filo, but that’s not what I asked.Oh, and do you consider yourself the man who decides acceptable levels of aggression on this forum?Not at all Belton, just my opinion, you were far better when you debated topics rather than just tell people to “f**k off”, just my opinion ofcourse
Quote from: Filo on September 16, 2021, 01:23:07 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you?I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is entitled to disagree, but it is noticeable that your replies to certain posters are becoming more aggresiveNice answer, Filo, but that’s not what I asked.Oh, and do you consider yourself the man who decides acceptable levels of aggression on this forum?
Quote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you?I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is entitled to disagree, but it is noticeable that your replies to certain posters are becoming more aggresive
I agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you?
Quote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you? Mirror mirror on the wall.....................
Quote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2021, 01:42:34 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you? Mirror mirror on the wall.....................Who’s the most bitter Brexshiter of them all?
Quote from: Filo on September 16, 2021, 01:05:20 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:00:47 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 16, 2021, 12:49:03 pmSo that's one person wanting people he disagrees with to go under a bus.And another one wanting a person he disagrees with to f**k off.Pleasant place, this has become.Billy. You made a song and dance about ‘blocking’ me a while ago. Now Whilst I know you never really ‘blocked’ me, some of your dwindling supporters might have believed you had some integrity left. Our Sydney even followed you. Now what are they going think?I think when you block someone, yet still comment on their posts, it makes you a super troll.No idea if he’s blocked you or not, but you do realise that any of your posts that have been quoted will be seen regardless?Precisely Filo. I've enjoyed not seeing a couple of people's posts directly in my feed in recent months. It's been like breathing cleaner air for months instead of dealing with a constant stream of abuse and provocation. I recommend it to anyone. But sometimes you can't help but see them when someone quotes them. And then you get reminded just how unpleasant some people are. For the record, the reason I put Belton on ignore was because he responded to a joke from me with "f**k off you toxic prick." I reckon when interactions have got to that point, it's best to draw a line under any further exchange. And that applies whether I really WAS a toxic prick in those interactions, or whether Belton incorrectly thought I was. Whatever the truth, best to not engage anymore.
Quote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:00:47 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 16, 2021, 12:49:03 pmSo that's one person wanting people he disagrees with to go under a bus.And another one wanting a person he disagrees with to f**k off.Pleasant place, this has become.Billy. You made a song and dance about ‘blocking’ me a while ago. Now Whilst I know you never really ‘blocked’ me, some of your dwindling supporters might have believed you had some integrity left. Our Sydney even followed you. Now what are they going think?I think when you block someone, yet still comment on their posts, it makes you a super troll.No idea if he’s blocked you or not, but you do realise that any of your posts that have been quoted will be seen regardless?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 16, 2021, 12:49:03 pmSo that's one person wanting people he disagrees with to go under a bus.And another one wanting a person he disagrees with to f**k off.Pleasant place, this has become.Billy. You made a song and dance about ‘blocking’ me a while ago. Now Whilst I know you never really ‘blocked’ me, some of your dwindling supporters might have believed you had some integrity left. Our Sydney even followed you. Now what are they going think?I think when you block someone, yet still comment on their posts, it makes you a super troll.
So that's one person wanting people he disagrees with to go under a bus.And another one wanting a person he disagrees with to f**k off.Pleasant place, this has become.
Quote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:47:10 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on September 16, 2021, 01:42:34 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you? Mirror mirror on the wall.....................Who’s the most bitter Brexshiter of them all? Fixed that for you.
Quote from: Filo on September 16, 2021, 01:32:55 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:29:42 pmQuote from: Filo on September 16, 2021, 01:23:07 pmQuote from: belton rover on September 16, 2021, 01:14:15 pmI agree that arrogant and abusive posters should f**k off. Don’t you?I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is entitled to disagree, but it is noticeable that your replies to certain posters are becoming more aggresiveNice answer, Filo, but that’s not what I asked.Oh, and do you consider yourself the man who decides acceptable levels of aggression on this forum?Not at all Belton, just my opinion, you were far better when you debated topics rather than just tell people to “f**k off”, just my opinion ofcourseI didn’t tell anyone to f**k off. I used the phrase in direct response to the poster you seem very concerned about, after he used it to describe all ‘Brexiters’ on this forum.What you have done since that is what many vocal anti government/Brexit poster on here does - use it to play some ridiculous moral high horse game.I am not going to speak for Bentley here, but what he did was use a play on words - on the bus/under the bus - it was a (quite funny) joke. EVERYONE knows that if they are completely honest about it.But what happens? Billy pipes up about how awful it is that people want to see others get killed under a bus!THAT is the fundamental thing that is wrong with this forum.
I’m noticing no different to my wallet or bank account content since brexit thank you.
I’m not arsed about being richer. Genuinely. I’m happy with my lot. More to life than just money. Providing I’ve enough to pay bills, which I have thankfully, and a bit left over for spends.then I’m happy. All this talk of brexit losses is fully expected by me.it took us decades to become financially shackled by the union. It will take decades for us to be fully beneficial by freeing ourselves of it. The benefits won’t be realised overnight. Probably not in my lifetime. But In time, I feel they will be. Other Eu states will look back in years to come, And see the UK as leaders in outing what is fast becoming a rogue empire, hell bent now on their own Army. History repeating itself. ? May be not this year, or this decade. But Ursula Von de shithouse is looking more and more like a sith baroness with every day that passes.
I “feel” this will be the case. I’m no expert on global economics, like some profess to be on here. A bit like marriage. You enter into a long term relationship with mortgages etc. Then it goes tits up. Divorce. Financial instability etc etc. It’s takes time to come out of the other side of this. A simplistic view I agree. And the EU divorce is an exponentially larger case of course. The principle is the same . It’s been done to death on here about the “democracy” of the EU. Unelected people with huge power.now wanting their own army.
Quote from: normal rules on September 17, 2021, 08:35:27 amI “feel” this will be the case. I’m no expert on global economics, like some profess to be on here. A bit like marriage. You enter into a long term relationship with mortgages etc. Then it goes tits up. Divorce. Financial instability etc etc. It’s takes time to come out of the other side of this. A simplistic view I agree. And the EU divorce is an exponentially larger case of course. The principle is the same . It’s been done to death on here about the “democracy” of the EU. Unelected people with huge power.now wanting their own army. It's been done to death on here, with links to 'how' the EU operate, and showing that every position is in fact elected. But some people STILL believe the lies and distortions put out by the likes of the Mail and Express! As to the EU wanting their own army, that's one person expressing her opinion, not the EU as a whole. You are aware that, to have their own army, the EU would have to pass a change to it's constitution and that one simple veto would prevent that happening don't you? Oh, I forgot, you won't get to read that in the Mail/Express.
Quote from: normal rules on September 16, 2021, 11:21:39 pmI’m noticing no different to my wallet or bank account content since brexit thank you. That's kind of the point. In normal times, the economy grows and we all, on average, get richer. We had growth throttled off by Austerity a decade ago, and just as it was feebly beginning to rise again, we voted for Brexit and economic growth collapsed again. So, allowing for inflation, we are barely any richer as a country than we were 11 years ago. We are standing still. While most of the developed world has got richer. You might not notice that because it is a slow process. But over 20 or 30 years you will.
The graph shows GDP by year hence GDP growth is reflected in the slope of the graph
I've said I think Brexit should be considered long term. Genuinely interested in the short term impact though. Maybe about to embarrass myself but that's fine as the forum is anonymous. Thought I'd take UK GDP from 1/1/16 to 1/1/20 https://www.statista.com/statistics/281744/gdp-of-the-united-kingdom/ (not much sign of a collapse in growth on this graph either btw ) and see how much bigger the economy would have been if we had had the same growth rate as Germany (selected as in the EU and a large, stable economy so not prone to wild changes which would skew the data). If same At 1st Jan Actual GDP as Germany Economic growth rates £m £m UK Germany2016 2,043,909 2,043,909 1.7 2.232017 2,079,113 2,089,488 1.7 2.62018 2,115,296 2,143,815 1.3 1.572019 2,141,792 2,177,473 1.4 0.562020 2,172,511 2,189,667 Lost GDP £ 17,155,603,926 Approx Population 66,650,000 Lost GDP per head £ 257.40 So therefore without Brexit, assuming the economy had grown at the same rate as Germany, as at 1/1/20 the economy would have been £17bn larger and we'd each individually, on average, be just over £250 per year better off. Happy to be corrected if my analysis is flawed as genuinely interested.