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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: wing commander on July 03, 2019, 09:31:25 am
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I hate times like this..In the old days Rovers was such a leaky ship that often you would know who was signing/becoming manager even before they did.Not now though..Even the bookies haven't got a clue
And whilst that's a good thing, as a fan it does drive you nuts.Right now everyday feels like we are missing out as other League one clubs continue to add to their ranks and we are sat in this limbo waiting for the process to be completed.
The squad or what's left of it are team bonding in La Mango with a game of five a side and even then Gavin Baldwin is probably in nets.All current transfer activity will have ground to a halt while we await the new manager to be appointed.
Hopefully plans are in place to really move with pace when he comes in.Right now we are probably not losing anything as the first week is mainly tests and fitness but from next week everyday will be a day we lose in preparation to other teams..
So for now we sit and wait,everbody will keeping checking in here to see if a new name or a titbit has been uncovered but so far not a clue..It sure is frustrating..
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
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WC, I very much empathise with your sentiments and you’ve hit the nail on the head for all supporters, like you and me, who only want the best for the club. Drive and ambition is not much to ask for and it’s not been in evidence much this summer.
However, reading SM’s post gives us all a much needed boost that our stated aim of challenging for promotion again this coming season is well and truly on. Thanks for that little snippet, Martin.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Can I ask SM, with regard to these potential new signings, will it be a case of the new manager simply ticking the box to say "Yes, I want these players that DRFC have agreed to sign", a bit like McCann with Crawford last year?
If in a fortnight we are sat here with a manager and 4/5 new signings, I think we'll all feel pretty good about things. Hopefully a benefit of having the set-up where GB/higher ups deal with player contracts once said players have been identified by the management staff.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Good to hear. I think if a new manager is confirmed this week, then we should be okay. I did fear the worst with the original statement the club put out, but now the dust has settled, things don't look too bad.
If things did roll on for another week, for whatever reason, then you'd have to be a little concerned.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
So are potential candidates being flown out to la manga for interviews ??
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Good to hear. I think if a new manager is confirmed this week, then we should be okay. I did fear the worst with the original statement the club put out, but now the dust has settled, things don't look too bad.
If things did roll on for another week, for whatever reason, then you'd have to be a little concerned.
I did say things should be confirmed within a week, I didn't mean within this week.
Interviews are being arranged, but will most likely take place next Monday, a 2nd interview will more than likely take place on Tuesday and if everything's OK will be confirmed Tuesday afternoon.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
So are potential candidates being flown out to la manga for interviews ??
No.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Good to hear. I think if a new manager is confirmed this week, then we should be okay. I did fear the worst with the original statement the club put out, but now the dust has settled, things don't look too bad.
If things did roll on for another week, for whatever reason, then you'd have to be a little concerned.
I did say things should be confirmed within a week, I didn't mean within this week.
Interviews are being arranged, but will most likely take place next Monday, a 2nd interview will more than likely take place on Tuesday and if everything's OK will be confirmed Tuesday afternoon.
Thanks for clarifying.
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Hard to see any player hanging about to sign for us if he gets an offer from elsewhere,
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Can I ask SM, with regard to these potential new signings, will it be a case of the new manager simply ticking the box to say "Yes, I want these players that DRFC have agreed to sign", a bit like McCann with Crawford last year?
If in a fortnight we are sat here with a manager and 4/5 new signings, I think we'll all feel pretty good about things. Hopefully a benefit of having the set-up where GB/higher ups deal with player contracts once said players have been identified by the management staff.
I can't honestly answer that one, but I'd be amazed if the new manager declined those on offer.
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Thanks SM.. That's as good a update as we could have expected..My op was mainly just about how frustrating it is and not a pop at how the clubs going about it..Which is the right way..
Like what has been said neither the fans,players or the club wanted to be in this situation but it is what it is so best foot forward and all that..Next week is when things start to turn...
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
So are potential candidates being flown out to la manga for interviews ??
No.
Why is gavin out in la manga now and not interviewing this week... why wait until next week. Surly we should be getting on with things and not letting another week pass by.
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Thanks SM.. That's as good a update as we could have expected..My op was mainly just about how frustrating it is and not a pop at how the clubs going about it..Which is the right way..
Like what has been said neither the fans,players or the club wanted to be in this situation but it is what it is so best foot forward and all that..Next week is when things start to turn...
That's my job done then WC!
To be fair, GB sounded very upbeat, and the lengths they have gone to have been extremely thorough, and I mean really thorough, to ensure our next manager will drive us forward.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
So are potential candidates being flown out to la manga for interviews ??
No.
Why is gavin out in la manga now and not interviewing this week... why wait until next week. Surly we should be getting on with things and not letting another week pass by.
They are getting on with things, that's the whole point. You underestimate just how much preparation goes into selecting the right candidates for interview.
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Going through candidates bins to check their liking for curries and special brew? ;)
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All good news
And I suppose even within the interview they could discuss the players with the candidate
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So let's draw the threads together here. Baldwin is in La Manga. Candidates are not being flown out to La Manga. Which logically means that either a) the interview process hasn't started b) there won't be an open interview process as such (candidates have been approached more directly lets say).*
* or c) they've done it on skype which I find unlikely.
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Interviews start Monday, Martin just said
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OK. I missed that. Back of my head was Liam Hoden who said a few days ago that the board had already drawn up their shortlist and interviews were happening in the coming days. Either they had or something changed.
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Or Liam is using a bit of Journalist license which I suspect is closer to the truth..
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Yes he must have been. As of yesterday the club were still on the 'long list'.
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Hard to see any player hanging about to sign for us if he gets an offer from elsewhere,
This is the main issue for me. Players have agreed to sign but they don’t know exactly when that will be, or even that it is definitely happening. Shouldnt be an issue if we get the new manager within a week, but if it takes longer there’s more chance either of a player’s head being turned or them getting twitchy and getting their agents to tout them out.
Don’t see any reason to worry or complain right now though - lets see how the next couple of weeks pan out.
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Don’t forget we are mostly expecting Marquis to be sold to allow him to fulfil his aim to play in the championship, and there is expected to be interest in Whiteman too.
Yet neither has left the club nor are there stories in the media of impending departure, are there?
So if there is no urgency with any movement of our two most saleable players, it shows to me that there is plenty of time for player movements over the coming week and that we aren’t (necessarily) missing out by waiting for the new manager.?
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There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. .
is this left over from GMs list or are gavin and the board now picking players?
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The key point is to have no further slippages isn't it? The clock is ticking and thus some urgency over the next week is key.
But I'd rather wait an extra week to get it right, even if it does make us impatient.
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The appropriate words in SM's op were "if all goes to plan". Let's hope it all goes well.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Can I ask SM, with regard to these potential new signings, will it be a case of the new manager simply ticking the box to say "Yes, I want these players that DRFC have agreed to sign", a bit like McCann with Crawford last year?
If in a fortnight we are sat here with a manager and 4/5 new signings, I think we'll all feel pretty good about things. Hopefully a benefit of having the set-up where GB/higher ups deal with player contracts once said players have been identified by the management staff.
I can't honestly answer that one, but I'd be amazed if the new manager declined those on offer.
That's a really encouraging post Martin, as it suggests that the players on offer are very good.
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The only thing is if the new man doesn't play 4-3-3, he might require different positions being filled.
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Are these potential signings permanent or on loan
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Yep, I understand, but it will be all done and dusted within the week if everything goes according to plan.
Gavin is finding it easier to get things done whilst out there, with the added benefit that the players have responded positively to him being there as a symbol of all being in this together, no separation of management and players.
There is a list of players that have agreed to join the club, but it still makes sense to hold off until the new man is appointed. This time next week will look completely different. Have faith.
Are these potential signings permanent or on loan
A bit of both.
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I hope that the new manager isn’t going to play 4-3-3, although it worked for goals scored I feel GM didn’t have a plan B when things weren’t going to plan. Wycombe being a good example, I think we literally played the same formation every game no matter the opposition strengths and weaknesses.
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Agreed to a point, Fal, and that point is when we lost Whiteman and Kane and he still tried to play 4-3-3 (Luton?) and came unstuck, massively. Then, he switched to different systems, with some success.
He then swapped back - was it at Sunderland? - and we looked awful.
If there was one criticism of GM last season, it was his inflexible approach, but he got us to 6th, so you can't grumble. The thing that bugs me, is, with a little bit more thought, we could have been much nearer to the top 5 than what we ended up being.
Next season will be totally different, due to the 'culling' that we've had and a number of teams have strengthened in the meantime (Coventry, Fleetwood, Peterborough).
The new manager will have his work cut out, so we need to give him every encouragement and support.
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GM wasn't the sort to out do tactically that i could see he was more lets be positive and blow the opposition away (something i quite liked). We got out done tactically a few times but Charlton at home in the playoffs comes to mind. If our new manager can keep that attacking positivity and add a bit of tactical knowhow we'll do very well
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On Marquis, don’t rule out one unlikely but feasible scenario - he stays with us this season so he can run down his contract and then (as is quite common now) make a huge amount of money with his next move as there will be no transfer fee.
Clearly he would need to make a success of this season and put off playing in Championship, but he would be in charge of his own destiny. It could be that what is on offer wage wise from potential buyers now (his agent will know the score) and the club(s) itself are not what he wants.
Just as good for him to sit tight until January or next May when he can make a stack as a contract free player.
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On Marquis, don’t rule out one unlikely but feasible scenario - he stays with us this season so he can run down his contract and then (as is quite common now) make a huge amount of money with his next move as there will be no transfer fee.
Clearly he would need to make a success of this season and put off playing in Championship, but he would be in charge of his own destiny. It could be that what is on offer wage wise from potential buyers now (his agent will know the score) and the club(s) itself are not what he wants.
Just as good for him to sit tight until January or next May when he can make a stack as a contract free player.
........and possibly add a further twenty goals to his CV total.
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Pretty much saying the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K70fxNF3qTk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K70fxNF3qTk&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-gavin-baldwin-reveals-timeline-for-appointment-of-new-manager-412004 (https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-gavin-baldwin-reveals-timeline-for-appointment-of-new-manager-412004)
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I don’t want to bash to hoard or process but couldn’t interviews have taken place this week? I’ll make any bet that we don’t have a manager by at least late next week.
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I don’t want to bash to hoard or process but couldn’t interviews have taken place this week? I’ll make any bet that we don’t have a manager by at least late next week.
Depending on what day late next week you mean I’ll take that bet
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I don’t want to bash to hoard or process but couldn’t interviews have taken place this week? I’ll make any bet that we don’t have a manager by at least late next week.
Simpler question, why don’t you believe what GB has put out in the press today, which is virtually the same as SM said on here earlier too.?
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I must admit I'm feeling happier with the situation today than I've felt over the last few days.
Onwards and upwards.
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I don’t want to bash to hoard or process but couldn’t interviews have taken place this week? I’ll make any bet that we don’t have a manager by at least late next week.
We may have, but not officially announce it just to tease you!
There may be fine detail to be sorted before an official announcement can be made. We must be prepared for that. If it's announced earlier then great!
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Martin are you able to comment on the calibre of applicants. Were the board surprised at the interest
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One black, one Asian, one Irish man, one Scotsman, one woman, one gay, just to keep everyone happy! Chris Coleman didn't apply!
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Martin are you able to comment on the calibre of applicants. Were the board surprised at the interest
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We didn't go into individual details but the club are delighted with the quality and the number of applicants. And as I mentioned yesterday they've sought some excellent advice from people within the game. It sounds good.
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Cheers SM
DBR hope we learnt our lesson with Irishmen lol
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Been avoiding the forum last few days as I didn't want to depress myself (far too emotionally involved, but, you know!)
SM's post has cheered me right up.
UTR.
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I don’t want to bash to hoard or process but couldn’t interviews have taken place this week? I’ll make any bet that we don’t have a manager by at least late next week.
Depending on what day late next week you mean I’ll take that bet
Thursday
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I don’t want to bash to hoard or process but couldn’t interviews have taken place this week? I’ll make any bet that we don’t have a manager by at least late next week.
Depending on what day late next week you mean I’ll take that bet
Thursday
So how much do you with to bet