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silent majority

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Re: Budget talks
« Reply #180 on May 05, 2018, 06:32:35 pm by silent majority »
Didn't Bramall agree with the experiment initially?

No

But as a major shareholder he could have stopped it.

The Chairman at the time was JR. Do you not now know how boards of companies work?

That's what you wrote Martin, insinuating Ryan had the where-with-all to do as he pleased, which plainly is not the case.

Try reading it without any insinuation. It was a statement of fact.



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silent majority

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Re: Budget talks
« Reply #181 on May 05, 2018, 06:35:09 pm by silent majority »
Didn't Bramall agree with the experiment initially?

No

But as a major shareholder he could have stopped it.

The Chairman at the time was JR. Do you not now know how boards of companies work?

So whilst John Ryan was chairman with 33% were Terry Bramhall and Dick Watson not directors with 33% each?
A simple yes or no will do.

I don't know where you're going with this but are you mixing up directors and shareholders? But the simple answer would be no.

Cantley Rover

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« Reply #182 on May 05, 2018, 08:43:30 pm by Cantley Rover »
Didn't Bramall agree with the experiment initially?

No

But as a major shareholder he could have stopped it.

The Chairman at the time was JR. Do you not now know how boards of companies work?

So whilst John Ryan was chairman with 33% were Terry Bramhall and Dick Watson not directors with 33% each?
A simple yes or no will do.

I don't know where you're going with this but are you mixing up directors and shareholders? But the simple answer would be no.

So Bramhall and Watson were not board members?

Wild Rover

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« Reply #183 on May 06, 2018, 09:00:22 am by Wild Rover »
Didn't Bramall agree with the experiment initially?

No

But as a major shareholder he could have stopped it.

The Chairman at the time was JR. Do you not now know how boards of companies work?

That's what you wrote Martin, insinuating Ryan had the where-with-all to do as he pleased, which plainly is not the case.

Try reading it without any insinuation. It was a statement of fact.
I have Martin, still reads the same ( blame firmly at Ryans door) Dick Watson and Terry Bramall WERE directors of "Patienceform" ( DRFC ) from Nov 2006 until jan 2012 and could therefore have gone against the experiment, bearing in mind how boardrooms work. they obviously did not.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #184 on May 06, 2018, 09:07:04 am by Glyn_Wigley »
Didn't Bramall agree with the experiment initially?

No

But as a major shareholder he could have stopped it.

The Chairman at the time was JR. Do you not now know how boards of companies work?

That's what you wrote Martin, insinuating Ryan had the where-with-all to do as he pleased, which plainly is not the case.

Try reading it without any insinuation. It was a statement of fact.
I have Martin, still reads the same ( blame firmly at Ryans door) Dick Watson and Terry Bramall WERE directors of "Patienceform" ( DRFC ) from Nov 2006 until jan 2012 and could therefore have gone against the experiment, bearing in mind how boardrooms work. they obviously did not.

Could it be they were just following the advice of a 'football man'?

Wild Rover

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« Reply #185 on May 06, 2018, 09:16:19 am by Wild Rover »
Yes Glynn it could. But when Martin was asked earlier if TB / DW were in favour of the experiment his one word answer was an emphatic NO.

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« Reply #186 on May 06, 2018, 09:39:04 am by DRNaith »
Yes Glynn it could. But when Martin was asked earlier if TB / DW were in favour of the experiment his one word answer was an emphatic NO.

The question was only asked about one of them.

Wild Rover

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« Reply #187 on May 06, 2018, 11:26:33 am by Wild Rover »
Ok I rephrase to avoid confusion , was TB in favour. End result emphatic NO .

vaya

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« Reply #188 on May 06, 2018, 11:30:10 am by vaya »
Great thread this.

Really capturing the zeitgeist of 2018.

silent majority

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« Reply #189 on May 06, 2018, 11:50:18 am by silent majority »
Ok I rephrase to avoid confusion , was TB in favour. End result emphatic NO .

Why was it an emphatic no? It was a straight forward answer to a question.

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« Reply #190 on May 06, 2018, 11:54:25 am by dickos1 »
Like one of mine and hounds threads this !

Lifelong supporter

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« Reply #191 on May 06, 2018, 11:55:48 am by Lifelong supporter »
My understanding was that the 'experiment' resulted from a conversation between Willie McKay, Dick Watson and Mickey Walker, and then Ryan went along with it.
All the smoke and mirrors statement about how companies work and who the chairman was at the time is just nonsense.
Does SM seriously believe that David Blunt currently dictates the policy at the club?   

silent majority

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« Reply #192 on May 06, 2018, 11:57:50 am by silent majority »
This is going to be my last word on this subject as its been done to death on this forum over the years.

At that moment in time all footballing decisions were made by John. I sat in a meeting with him very shortly after the decision was made and he described how he'd come to that decision and why. He spelt out his reasons and his ambition for that push to the Premiership, he even mentioned expanding the Keepmoat to accommodate it he was that convinced it would work.


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« Reply #193 on May 06, 2018, 12:06:59 pm by redbrez »
Sadly,and badly miss john Ryan', enthusiasm .

Wild Rover

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« Reply #194 on May 06, 2018, 12:23:23 pm by Wild Rover »
Ok I rephrase to avoid confusion , was TB in favour. End result emphatic NO .

Why was it an emphatic no? It was a straight forward answer to a question.


It was emphatic because it was a one word answer. With a one word answer there can be no ambiguity, therefore emphatic.

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« Reply #195 on May 06, 2018, 01:44:07 pm by northern soul »
To be honest it's a similar thing to what wolves have just done, except there was done on a much bigger scale. You could say we were ahead of the curve. ;-)

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« Reply #196 on May 06, 2018, 04:32:31 pm by Rovers Return »
Ok I rephrase to avoid confusion , was TB in favour. End result emphatic NO .

Why was it an emphatic no? It was a straight forward answer to a question.


It was emphatic because it was a one word answer. With a one word answer there can be no ambiguity, therefore emphatic.

Maybe, just maybe the answer to the question was a simple no. Why do the school girls on here have to find some sort of fictitious meaning behind a simple answer. Old fishermen’s wives or school girls you decide.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #197 on May 06, 2018, 04:58:41 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Ok I rephrase to avoid confusion , was TB in favour. End result emphatic NO .

Why was it an emphatic no? It was a straight forward answer to a question.


It was emphatic because it was a one word answer. With a one word answer there can be no ambiguity, therefore emphatic.

When used as an adjective relating to a word or syllable, such as the word 'no', it doesn't mean that.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/emphatic

Wild Rover

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« Reply #198 on May 06, 2018, 06:58:56 pm by Wild Rover »
So.....no in the context here-in you reckon is an adjective,

drfchound

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« Reply #199 on May 06, 2018, 08:14:43 pm by drfchound »
Conjugate the verb, conjugate the verb.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #200 on May 06, 2018, 11:13:35 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I bet Silent  Majority really appreciates Mr Wriggley's contribution to this thread. Not only did he first mention 'The Experiment' he then (as per usual) proceeded to divert the subject by trying to make out the argument wasn't grammatically correct!

A bit sad really.
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Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #201 on May 07, 2018, 09:04:50 am by Glyn_Wigley »
So.....no in the context here-in you reckon is an adjective,

'Emphatic' is the adjective. Surely you knew that?

Wild Rover

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« Reply #202 on May 07, 2018, 09:22:03 am by Wild Rover »
What you are really saying is that the word (NO) as used by SM in his post is not emphatic ( as in clear , precise, no frills etc ). No is considered to be ( correct me if I am wrong) a WORD SENTENCE, as it does not fall into any other catergory ( verb, adverb, noun etc etc), and surely a word sentence can be emphatic. ( again correctme if I am wrong).

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« Reply #203 on May 07, 2018, 10:01:59 am by drfchound »
Like one of mine and hounds threads this !





No it isn't.  ;)

Brian Young

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« Reply #204 on May 07, 2018, 11:19:21 am by Brian Young »
Anyway back on ranch. Does having a small squad again next season to include what ever our loan players in this , give enough flexibility throughout the squad particularly when our track record of playing catch up , for not having a fully fit squad at the start of a season .

Cantley Rover

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« Reply #205 on May 07, 2018, 03:03:20 pm by Cantley Rover »
In a word NO

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #206 on May 07, 2018, 03:29:44 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Seeing as we have a bigger Development Squad, I reckon they'll be looking to use that next season and it's a case of a slightly smaller senior squad.

Ian Lawlor
Marko Marosi
Louis Jones

Danny Andrew
Andy Butler
Joe Wright
Niall Mason
Matty Blair
Tyler Garratt
Mitchell Lund

Danny Amos
Shane Blaney

Luke McCullough
Ben Whiteman
Tommy Rowe
Issam Ben Khemis
Will Longbottom
Alfie Beestin
James Coppinger
Cody Prior
Morgan James
Jacob Fletcher

Alex Kiwomya
Liam Mandeville
John Marquis
Alfie May
James Morris

Probably add two experienced defenders, the young defender we had on trial, experienced midfielder or two and a striker minimum.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #207 on May 07, 2018, 03:54:46 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
What you are really saying is that the word (NO) as used by SM in his post is not emphatic ( as in clear , precise, no frills etc ). No is considered to be ( correct me if I am wrong) a WORD SENTENCE, as it does not fall into any other catergory ( verb, adverb, noun etc etc), and surely a word sentence can be emphatic. ( again correctme if I am wrong).

The use of the adjective 'emphatic', when related to a word or syllable (such as the word 'no') refers to the stress or emphasis placed upon it, not to its clarity, precision or conciseness.

PS 'No' falls into lots of categories, including the noun and adverb categories. SM used it in the exclamation category.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/no
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Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #208 on May 07, 2018, 03:56:11 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
In a word NO

The perfect example of a written emphatic 'no'.

selby

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« Reply #209 on May 07, 2018, 03:59:55 pm by selby »
  Cannon from Rochdale would be my top midfield target, he could eventually replace Copps, and I have said before McGahey also from Rochdale, both out of contract and would give us cover for quite a few positions in midfield and defence.
   Both a good age, are recognised to already able to play well at league 1 level, and are still improving and therefore have a resale value.
   The two big strong strikers  who played against us for Bristol Rovers and kicked us off the park, and the similar player at Wimbledon,one of them two would do me as a striking partner for Marquis and I understand both are out of contract.

 

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