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Quote from: Campsall rover on January 09, 2020, 01:41:18 pmPersonally I would rather wait until the summer and sign the players DM wants, rather than sign someone now just to make up the numbers. It’s quality not quantity we need in the summer.We have plenty of young players knocking on the door in Jones, Amos, Blaney, Greaves, Gomes, Watters etc. Plus the option of another few loanees to replace existing ones assuming we don’t keep any of the existing ones.We need to sign Deing if possible or another quality keeper if he is not made available by QPR. Another 2/3 permanent signings in the summer required.No drastic transfer activity is required. Couple of loanees now will do nicely thankyou. I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about. We are 2 points outside the play offs with 1/2 games in hand. That has been achieved with disruptions to our season and injuries to key players. That is the reality of the situation. From where i am sat it’s a very positive situation.Why can’t we sign players Moore wants now? Do you really think he’s targeted nobody for this window? The squad was wafer thin a month ago, since then we’ve lost 3 players and you’re suggesting we don’t need players?Moore has even stated himself we need bodies, you predicted earlier this season we could finish top two and now you’re resigning yourself to a midtable finish, because that is all we can hope for with no additions
Personally I would rather wait until the summer and sign the players DM wants, rather than sign someone now just to make up the numbers. It’s quality not quantity we need in the summer.We have plenty of young players knocking on the door in Jones, Amos, Blaney, Greaves, Gomes, Watters etc. Plus the option of another few loanees to replace existing ones assuming we don’t keep any of the existing ones.We need to sign Deing if possible or another quality keeper if he is not made available by QPR. Another 2/3 permanent signings in the summer required.No drastic transfer activity is required. Couple of loanees now will do nicely thankyou. I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about. We are 2 points outside the play offs with 1/2 games in hand. That has been achieved with disruptions to our season and injuries to key players. That is the reality of the situation. From where i am sat it’s a very positive situation.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2020, 04:53:44 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on January 09, 2020, 01:41:18 pmPersonally I would rather wait until the summer and sign the players DM wants, rather than sign someone now just to make up the numbers. It’s quality not quantity we need in the summer.We have plenty of young players knocking on the door in Jones, Amos, Blaney, Greaves, Gomes, Watters etc. Plus the option of another few loanees to replace existing ones assuming we don’t keep any of the existing ones.We need to sign Deing if possible or another quality keeper if he is not made available by QPR. Another 2/3 permanent signings in the summer required.No drastic transfer activity is required. Couple of loanees now will do nicely thankyou. I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about. We are 2 points outside the play offs with 1/2 games in hand. That has been achieved with disruptions to our season and injuries to key players. That is the reality of the situation. From where i am sat it’s a very positive situation.Why can’t we sign players Moore wants now? Do you really think he’s targeted nobody for this window? The squad was wafer thin a month ago, since then we’ve lost 3 players and you’re suggesting we don’t need players?Moore has even stated himself we need bodies, you predicted earlier this season we could finish top two and now you’re resigning yourself to a midtable finish, because that is all we can hope for with no additions Has no one noticed that the club has stagnated since we dropped out of the Championship because it nearly lost its backers their hard earned cash . John Ryan’s dream had been realised and it was NOT sustainable and the club fell to L2 before it stopped leaking money . Apart from Dickov who was sacked , every manager has left for money reasons and DM took the job knowing that he would have to keep a very tight grip on what the club spends , hence the loans . We are low supported club and they do not see this changing any time soon . 6-8k attendances isn’t going buy a 500k player or pay 10-15k week wages. And it would need this sort of changes to attract the players DM would like . DM isn’t getting the recognition he deserves for building a team with spirit if not absolute talent. Stop trying to second guess what will happen when history has already told us that we will get the left overs that no one else wants .
I don’t really get the relevance of the talk of panic buying. It couldn’t be any clearer that we’re not going to panic buy. Quite the opposite. I think the confusion stems from the fact that we’ve clearly had time to plan, the targets have been identified, but there’s no evident sign of progress. Portsmouth identified John Marquis, our top scorer who we wanted to keep. Cheltenham identified Alfie May, a player that was under contract and formed part of our matchday squad nearly all season. They struck the deals when they wanted the players and made their respective progress. It may be that we’ve identified players that clubs want to keep, in fact I hope we have, but we don’t seem to have got anything in place. It’s not like the need to strengthen has come as a sudden surprise.
That’s not the point Jonathon was making. He’s talking about clubs targeting players and then going to get them. As lots have gone on to do already this window. It’s a surprise we haven’t done any business after the poor recruitment in the summer. At the moment it’s 0 in and 3 out. From a squad that was already remarkably lightweight
We have a better manager than Portsmouth, and credit must go to the club for that. The failure of the Portsmouth manager to make the best use of a very good striker is not the point that I was intending to make. Darren Moore has identified his own targets. The next step is to get them through the door.
I am 99% sure that by midnight on 31/01/20 we will have 2 new players.I am 75% sure both will be loanees from the premier league. DM knows we need at least 2 in. He is not stupid. Think he is waiting to see what Norwich are going to do first of all. I also think we have first option on Hirst at Leicester due to Steve Beaglehole’s relationship with Rovers and DM.So it might be one or other of those two and someone else, probably a midfielder. Hey you never know we might get 3 in. But we will get someone, that is a given as far as i am concerned. It will happen.Anyway Rovers will be under instruction from the Doncaster and Bassetlaw health authority to make sure there are signings. DRI simply would not be able to cope with all the high blood pressure victims in casualty on 1st Feb if there are no newcomers to the squad.
You’ve not quite understood. Moore takes his time to find the right player. Portsmouth moved quickly and got the guy they wanted or thought they wanted. Perhaps they would have been well served to spend a bit more time trying to understand what they were buying, because it clearly hasn’t worked out well for them so far. Moving quickly is not always as straightforward as it might appear to the impatient.
Quote from: silent majority on January 09, 2020, 04:48:35 pmQuote from: selby on January 09, 2020, 03:41:22 pm In the summer the news on here was that the club were making a stance on the amount of money paid to agents for doing a deal. The word was that we are willing to pay a player more money, but he has to deal with his agent. I myself agree with this stance, and it may be the reason we are not able to go out and sign players as easily as other clubs willing to give untold riches to middle men. I have no evidence whether any of this is at all true, just what I read either on here or elsewhere, but if it is true I fully support the club in their stance, and wish that other clubs would do the same thing, and stop money leaving the game in this manner. I have no doubt there will be good and bad agents, some will have their players best interest at heart, others will be all for themselves, but it is time the football authorities cleaned the business up.That's been the case for a while Selby, that we restrict the amount of money we are prepared to pay agents.The sums I've seen mentioned for various deals in our league can be frightening.But that’s football and if you don’t pay the fees you don’t get the players.It’s pretty obvious that isn’t it looking at our incomings.
Quote from: selby on January 09, 2020, 03:41:22 pm In the summer the news on here was that the club were making a stance on the amount of money paid to agents for doing a deal. The word was that we are willing to pay a player more money, but he has to deal with his agent. I myself agree with this stance, and it may be the reason we are not able to go out and sign players as easily as other clubs willing to give untold riches to middle men. I have no evidence whether any of this is at all true, just what I read either on here or elsewhere, but if it is true I fully support the club in their stance, and wish that other clubs would do the same thing, and stop money leaving the game in this manner. I have no doubt there will be good and bad agents, some will have their players best interest at heart, others will be all for themselves, but it is time the football authorities cleaned the business up.That's been the case for a while Selby, that we restrict the amount of money we are prepared to pay agents.The sums I've seen mentioned for various deals in our league can be frightening.
In the summer the news on here was that the club were making a stance on the amount of money paid to agents for doing a deal. The word was that we are willing to pay a player more money, but he has to deal with his agent. I myself agree with this stance, and it may be the reason we are not able to go out and sign players as easily as other clubs willing to give untold riches to middle men. I have no evidence whether any of this is at all true, just what I read either on here or elsewhere, but if it is true I fully support the club in their stance, and wish that other clubs would do the same thing, and stop money leaving the game in this manner. I have no doubt there will be good and bad agents, some will have their players best interest at heart, others will be all for themselves, but it is time the football authorities cleaned the business up.
Quote from: Campsall rover on January 09, 2020, 07:45:52 pmI am 99% sure that by midnight on 31/01/20 we will have 2 new players.I am 75% sure both will be loanees from the premier league. DM knows we need at least 2 in. He is not stupid. Think he is waiting to see what Norwich are going to do first of all. I also think we have first option on Hirst at Leicester due to Steve Beaglehole’s relationship with Rovers and DM.So it might be one or other of those two and someone else, probably a midfielder. Hey you never know we might get 3 in. But we will get someone, that is a given as far as i am concerned. It will happen.Anyway Rovers will be under instruction from the Doncaster and Bassetlaw health authority to make sure there are signings. DRI simply would not be able to cope with all the high blood pressure victims in casualty on 1st Feb if there are no newcomers to the squad. Will anybody else be leaving, Campsall?
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 09, 2020, 05:53:07 pmQuote from: Filo on January 09, 2020, 05:48:55 pmJust listened to the Radio Sheffield interview, it’s groundhog day with all the cliche’s in there,Getting them over the lineCrying over spilt milkBlah blah blah!What do you want him to say? What would you say Filo? You know what, I don’t know what I would say, but that interview could have been one from the summer transfer window, all the soundbites and buzz phrases but nothing is happening, I can’t believe people are not concerned by the lack of activity, it’s plain to see there is a problem somewhere with the recruitment strategy. Everyone is more or less in agreement, we have a decent starting 11 but zero back up, it’s worrying and frustrating
Quote from: Filo on January 09, 2020, 05:48:55 pmJust listened to the Radio Sheffield interview, it’s groundhog day with all the cliche’s in there,Getting them over the lineCrying over spilt milkBlah blah blah!What do you want him to say? What would you say Filo?
Just listened to the Radio Sheffield interview, it’s groundhog day with all the cliche’s in there,Getting them over the lineCrying over spilt milkBlah blah blah!
Quote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:33 pmThat’s not the point Jonathon was making. He’s talking about clubs targeting players and then going to get them. As lots have gone on to do already this window. It’s a surprise we haven’t done any business after the poor recruitment in the summer. At the moment it’s 0 in and 3 out. From a squad that was already remarkably lightweight 4 out - May, Sterling, Daniels and ThomasSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Reesielad on January 09, 2020, 07:53:02 pmQuote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:33 pmThat’s not the point Jonathon was making. He’s talking about clubs targeting players and then going to get them. As lots have gone on to do already this window. It’s a surprise we haven’t done any business after the poor recruitment in the summer. At the moment it’s 0 in and 3 out. From a squad that was already remarkably lightweight 4 out - May, Sterling, Daniels and ThomasSent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe’re doomed then.Seriously are we going to miss any of them.? Answer is no. Not one of those players has had a major impact on a game this season with an assist or goal. Oh yes they have Thomas 3 goals. Sterling 1 assist. May absolutely no end product just hard work running around looking busy.Daniels some solid performances but 4 costly tackles conceding penalties costing us points.So we won’t miss any of them and they will all be replaced with better players in the summer.
Quote from: Jonathan on January 09, 2020, 06:59:46 pmI don’t really get the relevance of the talk of panic buying. It couldn’t be any clearer that we’re not going to panic buy. Quite the opposite. I think the confusion stems from the fact that we’ve clearly had time to plan, the targets have been identified, but there’s no evident sign of progress. Portsmouth identified John Marquis, our top scorer who we wanted to keep. Cheltenham identified Alfie May, a player that was under contract and formed part of our matchday squad nearly all season. They struck the deals when they wanted the players and made their respective progress. It may be that we’ve identified players that clubs want to keep, in fact I hope we have, but we don’t seem to have got anything in place. It’s not like the need to strengthen has come as a sudden surprise. Jonathan,I agree with your first point, but not your second. Yes targets have been identified, and progress has been made. You're not suggesting that progress wasn't made with Norwich as an example? I fail to see how the Marquis and May situations reflect on the business we are currently trying to do. I struggle to see the point you're making there. As an aside, something I've mentioned on previous occasions, Darren won't be rushed into doing something just for the sake of it. He knows who he wants, we'll just have to be patient whilst the parent clubs make their moves too.