Israel

[Sprotyrover]

Apparently Israeli got a mass of Kudos from the attack and a lot of sympathy and attention so much so that they may well let a counter strike go and reap the benefits of not doing so!

[selby]

 Just what Israel wanted, Iran's attack has shown who is pulling the strings, it has taken away the media's concentration on what is going on in the Gaza strip.
   They can take their time just doing what they have been doing out of the glare and can sort Iran out in their own time with a more planned attack on higher value targets.

[Sprotyrover]

Irans states they will make a nuclear bomb https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/18/israel-hamas-war-latest-news6/
Sprotyrover says a joint preemptive strike is necessary against ALL military sites in Iran, send em back into the Stone Age!

[Bristol Red Rover]

Sounds like the Torygraph is pulling strings in Sproty and Selby.

[ncRover]

BRR surely you can at least admit that there is also some warmongering on Iran’s part?

BBC reporting an Israeli missile strike has hit Iran but Iran saying it hasn’t? (As in their air defences were triggered but it didn’t land I think?)

[Bristol Red Rover]

Iran v Israel has been tense for a very long time. Iran has been targeting border areas of Israel from Syria for a long time. Israel has been bombing Iranians and direct allies in Syria for a long time. Israel went over the line by bombing the consulate. Israel tends to go over the line frequently,  evidently. The nuke escalation threat is from Israel if anywhere.

[selby]

  BRR, it's obvious you are unaware of how things pan out,  Israel are methodical, will only move when they are organised, have the ability to deliver munitions accurately, and when conditions are verified, sometimes by spotters on the ground. They also want a second front to deflect media attention from manoeuvres in Gaza, and to cut off the head of the snake.
 They are very good at what they do, and want to flush out the opposition into the open, a wider frontal war would suit them as it is where the opposition are not that good and they can deal with them on their terms.

[Bristol Red Rover]

  BRR, it's obvious you are unaware of how things pan out,  Israel are methodical, will only move when they are organised, have the ability to deliver munitions accurately, and when conditions are verified, sometimes by spotters on the ground. They also want a second front to deflect media attention from manoeuvres in Gaza, and to cut off the head of the snake.
 They are very good at what they do, and want to flush out the opposition into the open, a wider frontal war would suit them as it is where the opposition are not that good and they can deal with them on their terms.

Methodical etc? Israel screwed up then this time. If I was an Israeli with any real grasp on the live situation, I would be very worried.

[tyke1962]

  BRR, it's obvious you are unaware of how things pan out,  Israel are methodical, will only move when they are organised, have the ability to deliver munitions accurately, and when conditions are verified, sometimes by spotters on the ground. They also want a second front to deflect media attention from manoeuvres in Gaza, and to cut off the head of the snake.
 They are very good at what they do, and want to flush out the opposition into the open, a wider frontal war would suit them as it is where the opposition are not that good and they can deal with them on their terms.

Methodical etc? Israel screwed up then this time. If I was an Israeli with any real grasp on the live situation, I would be very worried.

I think you'll find that the Israelis aren't in the slightest worried about anything .

They've overcome their enemies every single time since 1948 and they'll overcome them today and whatever threatens them in the future .

They'll do whatever it takes to preserve the state of Israel and if the rest of the world doesn't like it then so what .

[Sprotyrover]

The Israelis took out the Air Defence system for their Nuclear facilities in the missile strike

[Bristol Red Rover]

  BRR, it's obvious you are unaware of how things pan out,  Israel are methodical, will only move when they are organised, have the ability to deliver munitions accurately, and when conditions are verified, sometimes by spotters on the ground. They also want a second front to deflect media attention from manoeuvres in Gaza, and to cut off the head of the snake.
 They are very good at what they do, and want to flush out the opposition into the open, a wider frontal war would suit them as it is where the opposition are not that good and they can deal with them on their terms.

Methodical etc? Israel screwed up then this time. If I was an Israeli with any real grasp on the live situation, I would be very worried.

I think you'll find that the Israelis aren't in the slightest worried about anything .

They've overcome their enemies every single time since 1948 and they'll overcome them today and whatever threatens them in the future .

They'll do whatever it takes to preserve the state of Israel and if the rest of the world doesn't like it then so what .

Sadly that do whatever they want includes interfering with UK politics,  as you know.

Meanwhile, the world moves on. Israel, or rather its US sponsors and associated lapdogs, are progressively less dominant militarily in the region. Making peace is the right thing to do. This is Israel's arrogant screw up.

[wilts rover]

  BRR, it's obvious you are unaware of how things pan out,  Israel are methodical, will only move when they are organised, have the ability to deliver munitions accurately, and when conditions are verified, sometimes by spotters on the ground. They also want a second front to deflect media attention from manoeuvres in Gaza, and to cut off the head of the snake.
 They are very good at what they do, and want to flush out the opposition into the open, a wider frontal war would suit them as it is where the opposition are not that good and they can deal with them on their terms.

The country with one of the largest military structures and espionage agencies in the world who were overwhelmed by people on homemade hanggliders who fire rockets from drain pipes - despite being warned it was going to happen? That the one that is 'very good at what they do' you are talking about?

[selby]

   It's not them with the WOH IS ME sounds coming out of their backsides now though is it, There is no dancing in the streets now, just cries of will you stop doing it to us.
  They said rubble, it's rubble and get used to the idea it will only end when they want to end it, yours and anyone else's thoughts just don't carry any weight whatsoever.
  They even want others to get twitchy, like yourself, and do something spectacular in the West which will solidify their backing and flush out the Islamist's before they are ready.
  It's a dirty business war both in the field and politically, and at the moment if they keep their nerve Israel are calling the shots and are not likely to give that position up until the time is right.
  The Islamist's are the ones who have to be careful, the move has come five to ten years too soon for them to have a wider conflict and the Ukraine has shown them that numbers of soldiers no longer is the be all and end all technology and fire power is, and has also concentrated the West at what is going off in that part of the world where to a point they had taken their eye off the ball concentrating on China and the Ukraine.
   

[Sprotyrover]

Yesterday I watched Al Jazeera News the headlines were about a building the Israeli Air Force bombed on Friday There was a Woman crying by a body bag talking , oh you will never live to see your children but you will in heaven! The new aster stated it was a small child killed in the bombed building! Next we pan to the sight of the building they talk to a bloke crying ”An Israeli Officer rang us and told us they we going to bomb the building and we had 15 minutes to evacuate,! 25 minutes later they bombed the building!” Now someone was telling Porkies! Was it the woman fawning over a body bag stuffed with a cushion perhaps?

[Bristol Red Rover]

Spotty, that's dire point scoring on so many levels. Own goals, leaping off a cliff, punching yourself in the face, even setting yourself on fire. Why?


On the other hand, could be worse. Selby does the above, plus spins his head and projectile vomits green bile.

[selby]

Eyes tight shut in your own world again BRR, Why is it like Syd the insults start straight away when you disagree and get personal, is it an inferior complex? or is it you don't like the wife telling you to do the washing up while you have nothing else to do while you sit there in a dream world?

[Bristol Red Rover]

Funny how someone starts crying about a tongue in cheek comment yet can come out with bile that smugly supports racism, abuse, and death of tens of thousands. Nowt as queer, eh?

[SydneyRover]

Eyes tight shut in your own world again BRR, Why is it like Syd the insults start straight away when you disagree and get personal, is it an inferior complex? or is it you don't like the wife telling you to do the washing up while you have nothing else to do while you sit there in a dream world?

just thought I'd save this as it's a perfect example of self diagnosis.

[selby]

  Ah the disciple's and the word of the Lord, never fails, just a hook no bait.

[tyke1962]

Funny how someone starts crying about a tongue in cheek comment yet can come out with bile that smugly supports racism, abuse, and death of tens of thousands. Nowt as queer, eh?

You shouldn't be so hard on extreme Islam BRR , try to remember that they've only ever read one book in their entire life and you need  make allowances for them .

[SydneyRover]

hope not hate tyke

[Sprotyrover]

Apparently that Syrian Orthodox Bishop in Syds town got stabbed for pointing out a verse in the Quoran “Jesus ascended to God his father in Heaven whilst the Prophet meekly died and didn’t do a thing . “ some Tit in Oz took umbrage and stabbed him but the Flick knife failed and he cut his own finger off! There are some right Twits out there in the land of OZ Aye!

[selby]

  Just what Israel wanted, three days since the last post on here, interest at a low, and they have started to dish it out again and the storming of Rafa about to begin.
  Come on lads wake up, there will be some right Woh is me to post about.

[selby]

All quiet on the Eastern front.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Apart from Bibi talking absolute shite about the US demos. Just showing how he processes things. Shows why Israel is in an alternate reality.

[selby]

OOP'S who woke you up BRR, hope you got out at the right side of the bed buddy.

[Bristol Red Rover]

I did thanks, and I'd invite you to try to do the same, as progressively the Western MSM are doing in kicking back at the Israeli lies about their genocidal behaviour. This is because more people are seeing through the lies of Israel so the MSM has to reflect that.

As someone pointed out, the Israeli path of responses to acusations of war crimes goes like this:
Did you do it?
"No, it was Hamas."
Then, "Okay, we did do it but we didn't mean it."
Then, "We did do it, we actually meant it, but they were terrorists."
Then, "No, we did do it, we did mean it, and they were civilians but why do you keep asking us questions, that's antisemitic."

[Bristol Red Rover]

So much about all this stinks, it just keeps on coming.

The military agreement between Israel and UK in Dec 2020.

The UK/Israeli partnership agreement made in 2021
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-israel-strategic-partnership-memorandum-of-understanding-2021/memorandum-of-understanding-between-the-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-of-israel-and-the-uk-foreign-commonwealth-development-office-on-the-uk-israel-s

and the "roadmap" agreed in March 2023.
https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-military-support-for-israels-genocide-was-pre-planned/

And the arms deal between UK and Israel days after the IDF murder of the British aid workers
https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-approved-arms-for-israel-days-after-it-killed-british-aid-workers/

[Bristol Red Rover]

This vid I find particularly disturbing beyond the murder and destruction, as it describes the perverted mindset of troops on the ground. An IDF soldier says what he experienced.

Warning - there are a few blurred out incidents of blatent murder shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-VDAjL8vM

[selby]

 Looks like your ploughing a loan furrow on here BRR, everyone else has got tired except the IDF who are still camped in Gaza steadily going about their business.
   Keep going buddy Netanyahu might just take notice about September.