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Come on Sydney, rumour has it the shadow chancellor, foreign secretary, health secretary are all for the sack aswell as reducing the deputy leader of many roles.The only person at the top he isn't sacking is himself...
Labour needs to shift perception back to being the party for the working person rather than which ever cause (blm, trans etc) students shout loudest about. As long as it has the image of student protest behind it (and Corbyn was the ultimate student revolutionary) then it is doomed. Why has no socialist Labour government been elected in my lifetime (born 1977) ? Those on the left need to be asking themselves that. Blair was pretty much centre / tory light
Are they anything like the rumours of who our new manger is pud?
They could do with getting rid of that smarmy git Ashworth.
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 08, 2021, 09:53:52 pmAre they anything like the rumours of who our new manger is pud?Only the tribalism stops you from seeing the catastrophe that's going on Sydney .
Quote from: Ldr on April 06, 2021, 01:31:33 pmLabour needs to shift perception back to being the party for the working person rather than which ever cause (blm, trans etc) students shout loudest about. As long as it has the image of student protest behind it (and Corbyn was the ultimate student revolutionary) then it is doomed. Why has no socialist Labour government been elected in my lifetime (born 1977) ? Those on the left need to be asking themselves that. Blair was pretty much centre / tory lightBecause the people of the UK have shown that they don't want that, look no further than Corbyn's last result, directly electing a socialist government will not happen until the UK public can be educated on the benefits of running the country in a similar way to say Sweden. The workers of the UK have shown they don't care for the protections that the EU voted on and are happy to take a gamble on them being kept, although the government has repeatedly said the protections will stay with one minister saying they will even be improved but without providing any detail. Moving the country to the left can only happen over time from a position of power where the government of the day can explain why for instance a fully funded and owned NHS will benefit everyone. Especially in times of a pandemic or similar.
I'm sure Ashworth uses filters to make him look better in video calls. He was on GMTV the other morning and his eyes were like Bambie's.
Quote from: tyke1962 on May 08, 2021, 10:20:02 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on May 08, 2021, 09:53:52 pmAre they anything like the rumours of who our new manger is pud?Only the tribalism stops you from seeing the catastrophe that's going on Sydney .Oh I see it alright and it hurts just as much but I look from a pragmatic pov, but then I have never voted to support a conservative government in my lifetime.
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 08, 2021, 10:19:09 pmQuote from: Ldr on April 06, 2021, 01:31:33 pmLabour needs to shift perception back to being the party for the working person rather than which ever cause (blm, trans etc) students shout loudest about. As long as it has the image of student protest behind it (and Corbyn was the ultimate student revolutionary) then it is doomed. Why has no socialist Labour government been elected in my lifetime (born 1977) ? Those on the left need to be asking themselves that. Blair was pretty much centre / tory lightBecause the people of the UK have shown that they don't want that, look no further than Corbyn's last result, directly electing a socialist government will not happen until the UK public can be educated on the benefits of running the country in a similar way to say Sweden. The workers of the UK have shown they don't care for the protections that the EU voted on and are happy to take a gamble on them being kept, although the government has repeatedly said the protections will stay with one minister saying they will even be improved but without providing any detail. Moving the country to the left can only happen over time from a position of power where the government of the day can explain why for instance a fully funded and owned NHS will benefit everyone. Especially in times of a pandemic or similar.The Uk publicThe workers of the UKNot “we” anymore.
Thing is Sydney, it is not really a democratic party, but it should be.Look at the imposition of candidates on local parties....it went down like a pint of cold sick in Hartlepool.Given the appalling performance in the local elections, I would expect a proper review once the dust has settled. Firing people without explaining how they had underperformed is very poor, it looks like scapegoating, even if it isn't.Rayner is Deputy Leader, elected by the members. She stays in that role, because Starmer has no power to remove her. This is not going to help with a good working relationship, is it?Whatever next, demote Annaliese Dodds and promote some brownose like Jess Phillips?Nobody wants to see people promoted just because they pander....what price competence?
He'll be ok with the full support of the party Albie
Agreed DO, pure socialism would never work but Sweden is doing OK albeit with a much smaller population, very high in provision of welfare in the form of from University education, long paternity leave for parents and very low levels violence in the community, and of course higher taxes.