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Title: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: wilts rover on November 06, 2023, 09:22:57 pm
I notice the (anti-Corbyn) journalist Michael Crick was kicked off GB News the other day. For criticising GB News during a debate about Free Speech!!!

It's only free if you agree with us. The fascists are here among us and staring us in the face:

https://twitter.com/ThePoke/status/1721454977745305865
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: roverstillidie91 on November 06, 2023, 11:24:04 pm
I notice the (anti-Corbyn) journalist Michael Crick was kicked off GB News the other day. For criticising GB News during a debate about Free Speech!!!

It's only free if you agree with us. The fascists are here among us and staring us in the face:

https://twitter.com/ThePoke/status/1721454977745305865
G-beebies equals tory news.

The same as The Sun, Daily Mail and the rest of the billionaire oligarch press.

Back by hedge funs, oligarchs etc.

I don't know why normal working people watch it and people buy into what they say.

Same goes for Talk TV as well.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: roverstillidie91 on November 07, 2023, 12:23:44 am
''The Media, Johnson and Covid: ‘An Orgy of Narcissism’ that Killed Thousands
As the Covid Inquiry has revealed, Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings are morbid symptoms of a sick system. At the heart of that sickness is the media''

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/11/01/the-media-johnson-and-covid-an-orgy-of-narcissism-that-killed-thousands/



See they've just brought out a publication out and also available for delivery too.

https://www.bylinesupplement.com/p/byline-times-is-coming-to-a-shop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv7sZoQkkns - On Starmer
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 08:03:37 am
"You are free to say what we want you to"
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 08:30:05 am
"You are free to say what we want you to"
A bit like Twitter/X?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on November 07, 2023, 09:16:45 am
"You are free to say what we want you to"
A bit like Twitter/X?

Go on. I'll bite. What on earth is the connection here?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 09:23:54 am
The connection is that people have been barred from Twitter/X for saying what they didn't want them to say.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on November 07, 2023, 10:10:06 am
The connection is that people have been barred from Twitter/X for saying what they didn't want them to say.

People were suspended from Twitter for posting personal abuse, for deliberately and regularly posting demonstrable lies, and for posting messages that advocated violence.

Many of those have been reinstated since Musk took over.

Crick was booted off GB News for stating the demonstrable fact that GB News is a propaganda outfit.

But I'm sure there's a connection in you head between the two.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: ravenrover on November 07, 2023, 11:09:57 am
I wonder after the next election whether the current batch of MP reporters are still employed if they are no longer MPs?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 03:42:15 pm
The connection is that people have been barred from Twitter/X for saying what they didn't want them to say.

People were suspended from Twitter for posting personal abuse, for deliberately and regularly posting demonstrable lies, and for posting messages that advocated violence.

Many of those have been reinstated since Musk took over.

Crick was booted off GB News for stating the demonstrable fact that GB News is a propaganda outfit.

But I'm sure there's a connection in you head between the two.
Crick lied by stating Neil Oliver's claim that "the channel has made space for all kinds of voices" was untrue.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on November 07, 2023, 04:23:55 pm
The connection is that people have been barred from Twitter/X for saying what they didn't want them to say.

People were suspended from Twitter for posting personal abuse, for deliberately and regularly posting demonstrable lies, and for posting messages that advocated violence.

Many of those have been reinstated since Musk took over.

Crick was booted off GB News for stating the demonstrable fact that GB News is a propaganda outfit.

But I'm sure there's a connection in you head between the two.
Crick lied by stating Neil Oliver's claim that "the channel has made space for all kinds of voices" was untrue.
oh I get it. It's one of THEM days is it?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 04:32:38 pm
If you mean it's one of THEM days when you are wrong, then yes, it is. You should be used to them by now.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 06:14:04 pm
The connection is that people have been barred from Twitter/X for saying what they didn't want them to say.

People were suspended from Twitter for posting personal abuse, for deliberately and regularly posting demonstrable lies, and for posting messages that advocated violence.

Many of those have been reinstated since Musk took over.

Crick was booted off GB News for stating the demonstrable fact that GB News is a propaganda outfit.

But I'm sure there's a connection in you head between the two.
Crick lied by stating Neil Oliver's claim that "the channel has made space for all kinds of voices" was untrue.

But booting Crick off proved he was right!
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 06:20:01 pm
Crick was booted off for being a liar, just like Billy says people are booted off Twitter/X for.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 06:21:24 pm
Booting Crick proved Crick wasn't a liar!
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 06:24:49 pm
People are booted off Billy's beloved Twitter/X for lying, so, that can equally be called a site that doesn't allow freedom of speech. Yeah?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 06:28:32 pm
People are booted off Billy's beloved Twitter/X for lying, so, that can equally be called a site that doesn't allow freedom of speech. Yeah?

I don't give a stuff about Twitter, I don't do Twitter, and I'm definitely not interested in anything you think about Twitter.

Crick wasn't lying and GB News proved it by booting him. That's all.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on November 07, 2023, 06:47:40 pm
Christ it's like dealing with a needy child.

1) Crick didn't lie.

2) People didn't get booted off Twitter for saying "No" to a leading question. They got suspended for systematically lying about matters of objective truth over long periods of time.

Do you get anything out of this debasing of yourself BB?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 07:07:46 pm
Crick was lying, and GB News consequently booted him off, which seems to be the media norm regarding the limits to the freedom of speech these days. He went on the channel to express his opinion that it should be closed down because they only have Tories on the show, despite him himself being a Labour supporter, and I hope his fee was withdrawn also when they kicked his arse out.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 07:13:43 pm
Booting Crick proved Crick wasn't a liar!

Still true.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 07:15:44 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on November 07, 2023, 07:19:40 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.
Christ, you DO actually believe this don't you?

Scary.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 07:19:55 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.

Proving that he wasn't lying!
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on November 07, 2023, 07:26:08 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.

Proving that he wasn't lying!

According to Crick himself (and we only have his word as GB News has stayed schtum on the issue, a producer marched into the studio during the ad break, pointed at him angrily and shouted, "You! Out!" When Crick asked why, he was told it was because he was not allowing the presenter to move the subject on.

No mention of lying. But of course, there wouldn't be. Because he wasn't lying.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: roverstillidie91 on November 07, 2023, 07:28:12 pm
https://bylinetimes.com/

Gives a more balanced and fairer views on things.

And not funded by oligarchs and manipulated by the main parties and Rupert Murdoch.

Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on November 07, 2023, 07:35:41 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.

Proving that he wasn't lying!

According to Crick himself (and we only have his word as GB News has stayed schtum on the issue, a producer marched into the studio during the ad break, pointed at him angrily and shouted, "You! Out!" When Crick asked why, he was told it was because he was not allowing the presenter to move the subject on.

No mention of lying. But of course, there wouldn't be. Because he wasn't lying.
But Crick's a liar, as he proved on the show, so why should anyone other than someone on an agenda of Tory hate, like you, believe him?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on November 07, 2023, 07:36:38 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.

Proving that he wasn't lying!

According to Crick himself (and we only have his word as GB News has stayed schtum on the issue, a producer marched into the studio during the ad break, pointed at him angrily and shouted, "You! Out!" When Crick asked why, he was told it was because he was not allowing the presenter to move the subject on.

No mention of lying. But of course, there wouldn't be. Because he wasn't lying.

No mention of getting better presenters then? :silly:
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: roverstillidie91 on November 07, 2023, 07:43:57 pm
Crick was booted out for being a liar.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/22/inside-gb-news-misinformation-factory/

Proving that he wasn't lying!

According to Crick himself (and we only have his word as GB News has stayed schtum on the issue, a producer marched into the studio during the ad break, pointed at him angrily and shouted, "You! Out!" When Crick asked why, he was told it was because he was not allowing the presenter to move the subject on.

No mention of lying. But of course, there wouldn't be. Because he wasn't lying.

No mention of getting better presenters then? :silly:
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: wilts rover on November 07, 2023, 08:30:08 pm
GB News booted someone off air because he was a liar.

In other news GB News have just hired the sacked for lying former PM, Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson, to present a new show.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: roverstillidie91 on November 07, 2023, 08:56:46 pm
GB News booted someone off air because he was a liar.

In other news GB News have just hired the sacked for lying former PM, Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson, to present a new show.
They are not impartial either and have broken Ofcom rules too.

Co-owned by a hedge fund with 2.2 billion of fossil fuel investments. Says it all
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on December 12, 2023, 11:07:24 am
Just what you expect from a serious, balanced News channel.

The leader of a far right party standing in for the founder of a far right party and "interviewing" that founder of a far right party, giving him a chance to say what an opportunity there is for the far right party now that the founder of the far right party has stopped eating kangaroo cock on telly.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1734293203006767572
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: normal rules on December 12, 2023, 06:53:04 pm
Are all rovers supporters to be branded hooligans just because of a very, very small minority?

Because to brand ukip, brexit party and reform UK as “far right” is no different. Are you seriously putting Reform UK into the same political spectrum as the NF or the BNP?





Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 12, 2023, 07:31:42 pm
Which of those three would you put to the left of a Conservative Party that was happy to have Braverman as Home Secretary for as long as she was?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on December 12, 2023, 07:35:38 pm
Are all rovers supporters to be branded hooligans just because of a very, very small minority?

Because to brand ukip, brexit party and reform UK as “far right” is no different. Are you seriously putting Reform UK into the same political spectrum as the NF or the BNP?







They are a damn sight closer to the BNP than they are to the LDs or to the Tory party of 30 years ago.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: drfchound on December 12, 2023, 08:02:41 pm
Are all rovers supporters to be branded hooligans just because of a very, very small minority?

Because to brand ukip, brexit party and reform UK as “far right” is no different. Are you seriously putting Reform UK into the same political spectrum as the NF or the BNP?






They are a damn sight closer to the BNP than they are to the LDs or to the Tory party of 30 years ago.

That isn’t really giv8ng a proper answer to the question raised by NR though is it.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: DRFC_AjA on February 14, 2024, 10:01:40 am
So the inference with this topic was that if you watch GB news "you know what you are". Presumably somehow you're a **insert buzzword/racist/fascist. A ridiculous notion. But following the same logic, presumably if you vote Labour you similarly "know what you are"......deary me you dirty antisemite racists. Which BTW I don't believe is true, one bad egg doest not spoil the batch, but just following the same logic can I now sling around the buzzwords to all and sundry
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: ravenrover on February 14, 2024, 11:44:46 am
Intetesting comment from the audience  on leaving the Sunak PR show, I want to know where I put my expenses claim in, surely not a bought audience?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: selby on February 14, 2024, 12:16:24 pm
  is it that you are willing to believe exit polls at some meetings raven and not at others because you don't like the result.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: ravenrover on February 14, 2024, 01:52:25 pm
Nope just mentioning it on a thread about GB news, it was actually said on camera when the man was asked about Ritchies performance, does it upset you Selby?
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 14, 2024, 02:27:55 pm
"And next here on GB News, a programme presented by a Tory MP in which he interviews another Tory MP for an hour about how biased the BBC is." :silly:
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 14, 2024, 02:39:18 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: selby on February 14, 2024, 02:51:29 pm
  No not at all I will not be voting for the Tories or Labour as I see both of them not worth voting for.
 But labour voters will now have to get used to having the labour Party pulled to pieces until the election. They have had a free run over a couple of years to beat the hell out of the Tories who have for the most part just remained Stum, but it is their turn now god help any Labour MP especially high profile who have baggage up to the election they are going to be buried in the media, not to mention their Islamic problems retaining them within the party, and election ID recognition.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 14, 2024, 04:13:48 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.

Logic never was your strong point BB.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 14, 2024, 04:41:49 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.

Logic never was your strong point BB.
You talking about logic is like Douglas Bader entering an arse-kicking contest.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: wilts rover on February 14, 2024, 08:08:13 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.

You mean the channel with the ex-Tory PM Press Officer on the board, the ex-Tory GE candidate as Director-General, the ex-reporter now working for Rishi Sunak, the ex president of National Young Conservaties as the presenter of its main morning radio news programme and the wife of a Tory Lord as the presenter of its lunchtime radio news programme and where the Tory Party has just announced its choice of chairman to replace the former Tory donor as chairman? That lefty news channel.

But glad you are acknowledging how bent the Russian linked, foreign tax exile funded & run GB News is.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 14, 2024, 08:13:14 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.

You mean the channel with the ex-Tory PM Press Officer on the board, the ex-Tory GE candidate as Director-General, the ex-reporter now working for Rishi Sunak, the ex president of National Young Conservaties as the presenter of its main morning radio news programme and the wife of a Tory Lord as the presenter of its lunchtime radio news programme and where the Tory Party has just announced its choice of chairman to replace the former Tory donor as chairman? That lefty news channel.

But glad you are acknowledging how bent the Russian linked, foreign tax exile funded & run GB News is.
I mean exactly what I said!
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 14, 2024, 09:14:40 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.

You mean the channel with the ex-Tory PM Press Officer on the board, the ex-Tory GE candidate as Director-General, the ex-reporter now working for Rishi Sunak, the ex president of National Young Conservaties as the presenter of its main morning radio news programme and the wife of a Tory Lord as the presenter of its lunchtime radio news programme and where the Tory Party has just announced its choice of chairman to replace the former Tory donor as chairman? That lefty news channel.

But glad you are acknowledging how bent the Russian linked, foreign tax exile funded & run GB News is.

You missed that it's the channel whose previous political editor rushed to print with a lie direct from No. 10 about a fabricated story of a Labour activist beating up a Tory.

But yeah. That left-leaning BBC.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: SydneyRover on February 14, 2024, 09:31:40 pm
GB News was launched to challenge the lefty bias of conventional British news media.

If you want to straighten up something bent, you have to bend it more the other way to make it straight.

Logic never was your strong point BB.
You talking about logic is like Douglas Bader entering an arse-kicking contest.

Making it personal bb, never a good look
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: ravenrover on February 19, 2024, 01:01:09 pm
OFCOM announce investigation on GB "news" re recent Peoples Forum The Prime minister, lack of partiality
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 26, 2024, 04:58:47 pm
https://twitter.com/Josh_Self_/status/1762102859796042006

But yeah, GB News is balanced.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: River Don on February 26, 2024, 10:30:06 pm
If you get booted off twitter or suspended from the Conservative party, that does not mean your freedom of speech is being curtailed.

It simply means others disagree with your opinions and having extreme opinions comes at a price.

Freedom of speech doesn't come with freedom from responsibility.
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: SydneyRover on February 27, 2024, 09:51:00 am
Tom, I want you to go out today and calm the horses, settle things down about Islamaphobia tell the people that we care, understand and can answer the tough questions. Gotcha Risky I won't let you down boss ................
Title: Re: GB News - Free Speech not free anymore
Post by: DRFC_AjA on March 07, 2024, 07:53:33 am
Mob update number 1,256 . No, not the pro Palestine mob that beat Jews and shopkeepers in tesco, I'm referring to the other mob

Thee beeb at their finest painting a rapist as a victim. Naturally of course, the victim was called a "racist" at first...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-did-newsnight-end-up-defending-a-syrian-child-rapist/