Brexit Dividend

[SydneyRover]

sounds like he was briefed by the brexiteers on here.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Jan 2020. Davis votes in Parliament for the Brexit deal.

Jun 2022. Davis says Brexit is failing because it was a Remainer Brexit. And COVID. Come back in a year he says.

Jun 2052. David Davis says, Brexit is not working because of the economic damage caused by the ten days of Bank Holiday to mark the Queen's Centenary. Come back next year and see, he says.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Don't forget by the way. This is the same David Davis who, when Brexit Secretary, was asked if the Govt had done forecasts on the economic effect of Brexit.

He said no.

But that was a lie. The Govt had done detailed economic forecasts of everything from remaining in the SM, through a free trade agreement to a hard Brexit with no deal.

Every one of them said we'd be poorer for the foreseeable future than if we stayed in the EU.

Why on earth would the Brexit Secretary deny their existence? Almost as if ...

[SydneyRover]

I did say a while back that most of those that voted for brexit will be dead before there are any benefits

[SydneyRover]

''The multimillionaire Brexit backer Arron Banks has lost his libel action against the Observer and Guardian journalist Carole Cadwalladr, which was criticised as an attack on free speech.

Banks, who funded the pro-Brexit Leave.EU campaign group, sued Cadwalladr personally over two instances in which she said the businessman was lying about his relationship with the Russian state – one in a Ted Talk and the other in a tweet.

Her lawyer Gavin Millar QC had argued the case was an attempt to silence the journalist’s reporting on “matters of the highest public interest”, namely campaign finance, foreign money and the use of social media messaging and personal data in the context of the EU referendum''

[drfchound]

RD
It is clear now this Brexit cannot happen without causing untold damage in Northern Ireland. We were warned of this but I always thought we could fudge it.

Two points.

1) Think who the politicians were who told you it was a problem that could be managed.

2) Watch the news on Monday.

I just saw the Monday lunchtime news.
Starmer to be investigated again for a potential further breach of the rules.
Not declaring gifts and other things.
But, but, but, he has apologised so I suppose it is ok.

[ravenrover]

Good for the goose........
Unlike the Goose Starmer does have principles and will resign

[drfchound]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

[danumdon]

Looks very much like the MSM are trying to make something out of nothing here, Starmer was very confident that this is just an administrative error on his part and will be rectified.

Funny that for someone who trades on being whiter than white seems to be a darker shade of grey more often than not.

Not the image his PR team are trying to cultivate, must try harder Keith!

[drfchound]

Wasn’t the blame for Raynor allegedly not being at the beergate gathering blamed on an underling as well.

[ravenrover]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lost me on that one Hound

[Ldr]

Honest mistake made in good faith, nothing to see here…………

[drfchound]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lost me on that one Hound

Ok mate, I’m sorry if I sound like bst here, but I will simplify for you.
I mentioned Starmer being investigated and you said “good for the goose” which I took to be a reference to Johnson being investigated previously.
I read your post as though you were saying if it was good enough for Johnson then it is good enough for Starmer (to be investigated).
Soooo, then I said “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
You must have heard that phrase before as it was a common one amongst our generation many years ago, used when someone tried to justify someone doing wrong because someone else had done the same thing.

Apologies if that sounds a bit condescending.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Boris has committed way more than two wrongs and hasn't made a right yet!

[Glyn_Wigley]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lost me on that one Hound

Ok mate, I’m sorry if I sound like bst here, but I will simplify for you.
I mentioned Starmer being investigated and you said “good for the goose” which I took to be a reference to Johnson being investigated previously.
I read your post as though you were saying if it was good enough for Johnson then it is good enough for Starmer (to be investigated).
Soooo, then I said “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
You must have heard that phrase before as it was a common one amongst our generation many years ago, used when someone tried to justify someone doing wrong because someone else had done the same thing.

Apologies if that sounds a bit condescending.

Then why is it that all the Boris defenders immediately point to Starmer having supposedly done something just as bad as Boris as if it did make a right then? And that you never pick them up on it?

[drfchound]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Boris has committed way more than two wrongs and hasn't made a right yet!

So you are a Starmer apologist then Glyn.

I don’t disagree with what you have said there by the way. way.

[drfchound]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lost me on that one Hound

Ok mate, I’m sorry if I sound like bst here, but I will simplify for you.
I mentioned Starmer being investigated and you said “good for the goose” which I took to be a reference to Johnson being investigated previously.
I read your post as though you were saying if it was good enough for Johnson then it is good enough for Starmer (to be investigated).
Soooo, then I said “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
You must have heard that phrase before as it was a common one amongst our generation many years ago, used when someone tried to justify someone doing wrong because someone else had done the same thing.

Apologies if that sounds a bit condescending.

Then why is it that all the Boris defenders immediately point to Starmer having supposedly done something just as bad as Boris as if it did make a right then? And that you never pick them up on it?

I can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t think that Johnson has done no wrong.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Boris has committed way more than two wrongs and hasn't made a right yet!

So you are a Starmer apologist then Glyn.

I don’t disagree with what you have said there by the way. way.

Apologist for what? If the police determine tghat he's done wrong I certainly won't apologise for him, I'd expect him to do the honorable thing.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lost me on that one Hound

Ok mate, I’m sorry if I sound like bst here, but I will simplify for you.
I mentioned Starmer being investigated and you said “good for the goose” which I took to be a reference to Johnson being investigated previously.
I read your post as though you were saying if it was good enough for Johnson then it is good enough for Starmer (to be investigated).
Soooo, then I said “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
You must have heard that phrase before as it was a common one amongst our generation many years ago, used when someone tried to justify someone doing wrong because someone else had done the same thing.

Apologies if that sounds a bit condescending.

Then why is it that all the Boris defenders immediately point to Starmer having supposedly done something just as bad as Boris as if it did make a right then? And that you never pick them up on it?

I can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t think that Johnson has done no wrong.

I'm not asking you to speak for anyone else: "And that you never pick them up on it?"

[drfchound]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Boris has committed way more than two wrongs and hasn't made a right yet!

So you are a Starmer apologist then Glyn.

I don’t disagree with what you have said there by the way. way.

Having re read your above post I have changed my mind on your suggestion that Johnson hasn’t done anything right yet.
I think that quite a few businesses and workers would have been in a mess had it not been for the furlough scheme.
Some pensioners will be very happy to receive the no repayable amounts they are going to get towards fuel bills too.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Boris has committed way more than two wrongs and hasn't made a right yet!

So you are a Starmer apologist then Glyn.

I don’t disagree with what you have said there by the way. way.

Having re read your above post I have changed my mind on your suggestion that Johnson hasn’t done anything right yet.
I think that quite a few businesses and workers would have been in a mess had it not been for the furlough scheme.
Some pensioners will be very happy to receive the no repayable amounts they are going to get towards fuel bills too.

Which of his wrongs made those right then?

I thought the first one was Rishi's idea anyway.

[drfchound]

Raven, I’m sure you know that two wrongs don’t make a right.

Boris has committed way more than two wrongs and hasn't made a right yet!

So you are a Starmer apologist then Glyn.

I don’t disagree with what you have said there by the way. way.

Having re read your above post I have changed my mind on your suggestion that Johnson hasn’t done anything right yet.
I think that quite a few businesses and workers would have been in a mess had it not been for the furlough scheme.
Some pensioners will be very happy to receive the no repayable amounts they are going to get towards fuel bills too.

Which of his wrongs made those right then?

I thought the first one was Rishi's idea anyway.

I have to laugh when if Johnson is blamed for something that one of his Ministers gets wrong but when one of them has a good idea (like Sunak for example) then it has nothing to do with Johnson.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Johnson has enough to be blamed for on his own account without anything anyone else has done being added to it. I can't remember anyone else's cock-up not being pinned on them and onto Johnson instead anyway.

[drfchound]

So, a bit like Starmer blaming his minions then.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Not in the slightest.

[wilts rover]

I saw there were a lot of recent replies to this thread and was sure you would be discussing the reasons that UK GDP has fallen for the second consecutive month.

But no, seems, Starmer forgetting to declare he had gone to watch Arsenal is more relevant to Brexit.

Funny old world.

[drfchound]

Well, he has apologised wilts.

[drfchound]

Anyway. You lot who've been so happy the we Got Brexit Done. Watch the news on Monday evening.

Well bst, I took your advice and watched the news.
What were you saying we should have looked out for ?

[drfchound]

Anyway. You lot who've been so happy the we Got Brexit Done. Watch the news on Monday evening.

Well bst, I took your advice and watched the news.
What were you saying we should have looked out for ?

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[SydneyRover]

Unfortunately it looks like another brexit election