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For me, the big challenge is whether we could do it with our present owners, who I trust implicitly to do it the right way and for the right reasons. I trust them to manage the finances to give the club the best opportunity without jeopardising our existence.The notion of attracting other investors who have no emotional or community commitment fills me with horror. Always beware of so called investors who allegedly have a potful of money and promise the earth. As said, there's great danger in ripping the heart and soul out of the club.In a number of cases, certain clubs successes have been based on funds from money laundering although the source of those funds are carefully hidden in a web of multiple overseas registered companies.Stick with what and who we know.
Quote from: i_ateallthepies on February 19, 2019, 07:45:25 pmQuote from: Move DRFC on February 19, 2019, 04:31:37 pmQuote from: Rigoglioso on February 18, 2019, 11:07:23 pmI would have thought most fans of every club who's not been there would want just one season in the Premier League mixing it with the big boys. If the team survives? Brilliant - that'll be at least two years - a bit like Huddersfield now!If you want great stories to tell the kids about, I'm sure 'that one season where we won at Liverpool, drew at Man City, and nearly stayed up' is more interesting than endless tales about not winning at Walsall in so many years.Getting into Europe - possible for a relatively small club like Bournemouth nowadays - will also bring about stories when the inevitable 'dropping back down a couple of divisions' becomes a reality!Agreed. You must be mental if Prem isn't your dream being a Rovers fan. England to win the World Cup and Rovers to get in the Prem are the two football dreams for meWhat gets me to attend games on a Saturday is the belief that we have an equal chance of competing and beating the team we're up against. Being in the PL would do nothing, absolutely nothing to soften the misery of seeing my team arseholed week in and week out.Between the two of us, Move DRFC, I'm damned sure I know who is mental on this matter.But if we got to the Prem, we would be an attractive proposition to international players, investors etc, enabling us to massivley improve our team and club and thus giving us a chance to stay up. It would be massive for the club. Look at Huddersfield and Bournemouth. Huddersfield stayed up and Bournemouth have kept on improving. Burnley as well are now established in the Prem.Not to mention the quality of football on show every week - plus the euphoria of getting promoted from the Championship. If I'm mental for wanting that, then shoot me down!Through your logic you'd rather us be in League Two than the Premier League then I assume? Sorry just having a giggle at that thought.
Quote from: Move DRFC on February 19, 2019, 04:31:37 pmQuote from: Rigoglioso on February 18, 2019, 11:07:23 pmI would have thought most fans of every club who's not been there would want just one season in the Premier League mixing it with the big boys. If the team survives? Brilliant - that'll be at least two years - a bit like Huddersfield now!If you want great stories to tell the kids about, I'm sure 'that one season where we won at Liverpool, drew at Man City, and nearly stayed up' is more interesting than endless tales about not winning at Walsall in so many years.Getting into Europe - possible for a relatively small club like Bournemouth nowadays - will also bring about stories when the inevitable 'dropping back down a couple of divisions' becomes a reality!Agreed. You must be mental if Prem isn't your dream being a Rovers fan. England to win the World Cup and Rovers to get in the Prem are the two football dreams for meWhat gets me to attend games on a Saturday is the belief that we have an equal chance of competing and beating the team we're up against. Being in the PL would do nothing, absolutely nothing to soften the misery of seeing my team arseholed week in and week out.Between the two of us, Move DRFC, I'm damned sure I know who is mental on this matter.
Quote from: Rigoglioso on February 18, 2019, 11:07:23 pmI would have thought most fans of every club who's not been there would want just one season in the Premier League mixing it with the big boys. If the team survives? Brilliant - that'll be at least two years - a bit like Huddersfield now!If you want great stories to tell the kids about, I'm sure 'that one season where we won at Liverpool, drew at Man City, and nearly stayed up' is more interesting than endless tales about not winning at Walsall in so many years.Getting into Europe - possible for a relatively small club like Bournemouth nowadays - will also bring about stories when the inevitable 'dropping back down a couple of divisions' becomes a reality!Agreed. You must be mental if Prem isn't your dream being a Rovers fan. England to win the World Cup and Rovers to get in the Prem are the two football dreams for me
I would have thought most fans of every club who's not been there would want just one season in the Premier League mixing it with the big boys. If the team survives? Brilliant - that'll be at least two years - a bit like Huddersfield now!If you want great stories to tell the kids about, I'm sure 'that one season where we won at Liverpool, drew at Man City, and nearly stayed up' is more interesting than endless tales about not winning at Walsall in so many years.Getting into Europe - possible for a relatively small club like Bournemouth nowadays - will also bring about stories when the inevitable 'dropping back down a couple of divisions' becomes a reality!
Quote from: Move DRFC on February 20, 2019, 04:38:15 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on February 19, 2019, 07:45:25 pmQuote from: Move DRFC on February 19, 2019, 04:31:37 pmQuote from: Rigoglioso on February 18, 2019, 11:07:23 pmI would have thought most fans of every club who's not been there would want just one season in the Premier League mixing it with the big boys. If the team survives? Brilliant - that'll be at least two years - a bit like Huddersfield now!If you want great stories to tell the kids about, I'm sure 'that one season where we won at Liverpool, drew at Man City, and nearly stayed up' is more interesting than endless tales about not winning at Walsall in so many years.Getting into Europe - possible for a relatively small club like Bournemouth nowadays - will also bring about stories when the inevitable 'dropping back down a couple of divisions' becomes a reality!Agreed. You must be mental if Prem isn't your dream being a Rovers fan. England to win the World Cup and Rovers to get in the Prem are the two football dreams for meWhat gets me to attend games on a Saturday is the belief that we have an equal chance of competing and beating the team we're up against. Being in the PL would do nothing, absolutely nothing to soften the misery of seeing my team arseholed week in and week out.Between the two of us, Move DRFC, I'm damned sure I know who is mental on this matter.But if we got to the Prem, we would be an attractive proposition to international players, investors etc, enabling us to massivley improve our team and club and thus giving us a chance to stay up. It would be massive for the club. Look at Huddersfield and Bournemouth. Huddersfield stayed up and Bournemouth have kept on improving. Burnley as well are now established in the Prem.Not to mention the quality of football on show every week - plus the euphoria of getting promoted from the Championship. If I'm mental for wanting that, then shoot me down!Through your logic you'd rather us be in League Two than the Premier League then I assume? Sorry just having a giggle at that thought.Crystal Palace were a side full of highly paid international players. Did you enjoy watching them? They struggled to string more than a couple of passes together and not a single Palace player stood out above ours in terms of technical ability, not one. There were all physically bigger either in height or build (in most cases both) and some were fast runners but despite what the media tells you being "blessed"with pace doesn't make you a good footballer. That's your "quality of football on show every week" shot down in flames!You say LOOK at Huddersfield and Bournemouth and cite how "they've kept on improving" but you're the only who isn't LOOKing or he isn't capable of seeing the reality. Both teams have lost more games than they've won in every season they've spent in the EPL! Hows that an improvement and more importantly whats the point of spending loads of money on staff, players and facilities to lose more games than you win? So fans can watch you play "the big boys"? Losing to Man City is the same as losing to Bury, it's still losing! To go to Old Trafford, Anfield and the Emirates and alike every other week? They're only football stadiums! Unique but essentially just a place to watch football were if you sit close to the pitch you'll get wet if it rains, the toilets will likely still be a state, and the food is still substandard and overpriced. Then there's the cost to the supporter. Spending the sort of money you have to for a ticket to a EPL game to watch your team lose more than it wins is frankly retarded!Personally I'd rather win League 2 than finish 1 place above relegation in the Premier League. I think you need to be careful what you wish for or go and find another club to 'support'.Oh and don't mistake or misinterpret what I've written as a lack of ambition as nothing could be further from the truth and I will remind and ban anyone who suggests as much when I make it onto the board/become chairman of Doncaster Rovers! It's worth pointing out at this point I won't be chucking all my hard earned money at the club when I do achieve my goal either!I want to see Doncaster Rovers doing as well as they possibly can, winning games, winning leagues and playing attractive football but not at any price. It's far more important to me that Doncaster Rovers is around and stays around for as long as enough people continue to want to watch professional football in Doncaster. Afterall professional sport is entertainment and if nobody wants entertaining then sadly there's no need for a professional team. If we achieved promotion to the top division of English football then of course I'd be pleased, more so if we'd done so by actually winning the Championship as the only goal/target for every professional football club every season should be to win the league. If you finish runner up you get promoted as a reward but you still failed as the aim is to win and it's important to remember that. When a manager comes out and says his aim for the season is promotion, he should be sacked immediately, as who the f*%^k sets out to finish 3rd? The way EPL is currently I'd be quite content with a single season of getting thumped knowing the money made from promotion and parachute payments would ensure the club was financially secure in the immediate and medium term. The next season I'd expect us to target winning the Championship again!
If it came down to it, I don't think that many people would be wanting promotion not to happen.Lets say this current squad gets promoted and somehow, with a few acquisitions, hits the ground running and ends up in a promotion battle in the Championship this time next year.
The rest of your post is irrelevant to what we were talking about. I'll repeat. No club gets to the PL without a) Being big alreadyb) Running up huge losses that are covered by a sugar daddyc) Running up huge losses that aren't covered and run the risk of finishing the club off.
Sustainability post premiership- Bradford City down to L2, Barnsley similar, lets see where Huddersfield fare and even "big clubs" in free fall such as Wolves and Sunderland 2 successive relegation's after crashing out - buying over inflated wage earners on silly contracts to maintain/return t the promised land....even Villa/Forest European Cup winners mediocre in the Championship or at best "challengers". Its a massive business being in the PL unless you are savvy/lucky like Burnley and little old Bournemouth.. oh their Bulgarian (?) trillionaire is not exactly cash strapped to support his latest plaything... I rest my case...
Blackpool's journey was a dream, was it? I'd hate to live in one of your nightmares.
Cardiff city and Burnley have both reached the premier league without spending a fortune or putting themselves in debt. Cardiff has one of the lowest wage bills in the championship last season
Neil warnock said it on the radio, may not be correct but he would be a bit silly to make numbers up that anyone can view further down the line. They were signing players like mandez Laing on free transfers from Rochdale, They were amongst the favourites to go down that season similar to Huddersfield the year before, yet both reached the prem. almost all clubs lose money each year not just the ones getting promoted