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Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 02:02:34 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 12:19:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 11:49:16 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.How do we know the will of the people hasn't changed in two years? MPs changed their minds in the space of a few weeks, so who says that 4% lead hasn't changed in over 2 years? And before you say do we keep just having vote after vote, Theresa has had vote after vote and it'll break the impasse. There is a majority against No Deal and we will see it tonight. No sensible person wants us to actually leave with no deal, they just want it on the table as a bargaining chip.It interesting that on this forum which most of it's members are based in a very pro Brexit area are mainly remainers, however most of my mates in London which was a remain area are the polar opposite and are very much staunch Brexit.What this situation clearly shows is that many MPs are totally out of touch with their constituents and come the day of the next election supporters of all parties/Brexit or remain opinion should remember if their MP acted in their interests.There's a correlation between intelligence and whether you voted Brexit. People on here who can string two sentences together more than likely voted/want to remain. The people that can't spell their own name and aren't on here more than likely voted to leave. The education in our area had clearly let us down over the years.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 12:19:53 pmQuote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 11:49:16 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.How do we know the will of the people hasn't changed in two years? MPs changed their minds in the space of a few weeks, so who says that 4% lead hasn't changed in over 2 years? And before you say do we keep just having vote after vote, Theresa has had vote after vote and it'll break the impasse. There is a majority against No Deal and we will see it tonight. No sensible person wants us to actually leave with no deal, they just want it on the table as a bargaining chip.It interesting that on this forum which most of it's members are based in a very pro Brexit area are mainly remainers, however most of my mates in London which was a remain area are the polar opposite and are very much staunch Brexit.What this situation clearly shows is that many MPs are totally out of touch with their constituents and come the day of the next election supporters of all parties/Brexit or remain opinion should remember if their MP acted in their interests.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on March 13, 2019, 11:49:16 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.How do we know the will of the people hasn't changed in two years? MPs changed their minds in the space of a few weeks, so who says that 4% lead hasn't changed in over 2 years? And before you say do we keep just having vote after vote, Theresa has had vote after vote and it'll break the impasse. There is a majority against No Deal and we will see it tonight. No sensible person wants us to actually leave with no deal, they just want it on the table as a bargaining chip.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on March 13, 2019, 11:01:44 amAre you two Russian bots?No. Just normal voters who would like to see the traitors in parliament carry out the will of the people rather than fulfil their own agenda.
Are you two Russian bots?
The way I see it, the EU will allow a short extension, up to 3 months, to allow tidying up. Or they will allow a long extension, 18 months to 2 years, to allow a General Election and/or a Second Referendum. They won't move on the Withdrawal Agreement, but they might on the Political Declaration. The latter presents Labour with an opportunity to push their BINO plan.One thing is certain: No-one, Leave or Remain, will ever trust a politician again.
Quote from: The Red Baron on March 14, 2019, 10:04:25 amThe way I see it, the EU will allow a short extension, up to 3 months, to allow tidying up. Or they will allow a long extension, 18 months to 2 years, to allow a General Election and/or a Second Referendum. They won't move on the Withdrawal Agreement, but they might on the Political Declaration. The latter presents Labour with an opportunity to push their BINO plan.One thing is certain: No-one, Leave or Remain, will ever trust a politician again.Surely if it was only 3 month we'd be in the same position as we are now? Nothing would get through.
Why've they done this then? In case it dies on its arse and kills the campaign?
Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay voted against the government's motion on delaying Brexit tonight, despite having commended it to MPs less than an hour-and-a-half earlier.At the end of the debate, preceding tonight's votes, Barclay told MPs: "It is time for this House to act in the national interest. It is time to put forward an extension that is realistic. I commend the government motion to the House."He then voted against it.
We will leave with Mays deal on 29th. Watch the news
Flint and Mann were also among six Labour MPs who voted against the Benn amendment that would have given parliament further control of the Brexit process.This is the amendment which was lost by 2 votes.Why are they in the Labour Party?
More Labour MP's than Tory MP's voted for the govs' own motion tonight! And more Tories voted against it than for it. Wow!