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I’m afraid it’s a sad state of affairs that we have to post a thank you on how to conduct ourselves when showing respect and gratitude to the fallen.
I noticed Mclean was the only Stoke player without a poppey on his shirt whats his problem ffs
It was just a misunderstanding thou at Chorley some thought was minutes applause some silence, agree a shambles thou
Quote from: roversam on November 06, 2019, 03:32:11 pmI noticed Mclean was the only Stoke player without a poppey on his shirt whats his problem ffsHe is a self proclaimed supporter of the IRA and their works but at the same time is happy to accept British pound notes every week.I am proud to say he got his just desserts in abuse at the Den.
Quote from: bpoolrover on November 03, 2019, 08:07:49 pmIt was just a misunderstanding thou at Chorley some thought was minutes applause some silence, agree a shambles thouI didn't see it as a misunderstanding. The Chorley fans at the other end weren't applauding, they were singing and chanting through it which is very different.Quote from: Axholme Lion on November 06, 2019, 03:55:30 pmQuote from: roversam on November 06, 2019, 03:32:11 pmI noticed Mclean was the only Stoke player without a poppey on his shirt whats his problem ffsHe is a self proclaimed supporter of the IRA and their works but at the same time is happy to accept British pound notes every week.I am proud to say he got his just desserts in abuse at the Den.Nothing to do with him being from the same place as 6 of the unarmed protesters who were shot by the British army on Bloody Sunday?
Quote from: pib on November 06, 2019, 04:40:16 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on November 03, 2019, 08:07:49 pmIt was just a misunderstanding thou at Chorley some thought was minutes applause some silence, agree a shambles thouI didn't see it as a misunderstanding. The Chorley fans at the other end weren't applauding, they were singing and chanting through it which is very different.Quote from: Axholme Lion on November 06, 2019, 03:55:30 pmQuote from: roversam on November 06, 2019, 03:32:11 pmI noticed Mclean was the only Stoke player without a poppey on his shirt whats his problem ffsHe is a self proclaimed supporter of the IRA and their works but at the same time is happy to accept British pound notes every week.I am proud to say he got his just desserts in abuse at the Den.Nothing to do with him being from the same place as 6 of the unarmed protesters who were shot by the British army on Bloody Sunday?I'll tell that to my cousin who was shot through the neck by an IRA sniper hiding behind civilians.
Not sure who any of us are to be judging McLean. If he doesn’t wear a poppy because of his own personal beliefs then that’s his choice. He’s even stated why and that if it represented only people who died during the world wars he would be wearing one. Unless people are now saying his view doesn’t count because you don’t like it?I personally don’t agree with the LGBT poppy that’s appeared recently. Not going to tell someone who wears it that they are wrong though as it’s that persons choice. That lbgt poppy is not real as such it was said the lgbt community would never dream of having a rainbow coloured poppy and someone made it to create issues
I like that IDM. A lot. It's a far better attitude to have than the unthinking, maudling, glorification of 'deaths' with neither context nor appreciation. It's unpopular, but I really do loathe that sort of attitude to poppies, silences and whatever else we aare all expected to bend the knee for.BobG
Glyn, if you think that people showing respect to Remembrance day and what it stands for think to the far right, go and have a lye down, you are thinking too much.
Quote from: BobG on November 07, 2019, 01:23:40 amI like that IDM. A lot. It's a far better attitude to have than the unthinking, maudling, glorification of 'deaths' with neither context nor appreciation. It's unpopular, but I really do loathe that sort of attitude to poppies, silences and whatever else we aare all expected to bend the knee for.BobGI still think it is appropriate to honour the memory of those who lost their lives in service, including police, firefighters etc.That doesn’t mean war could or should be glorified. We are not remembering the politics or politicians that sent our men and women to fight and die.