Is the European Central Bank taking the piss?

[IC1967]

What's wrong with my position on the Labour leadership? There is an opportunity to make good money. Morals doesn't come into it. All I've done is given people the benefit of my expertise and told them to lump on at 3/1.

That's all you have done? Really? So as a confirmed right-wing UKIP supporter are you saying this is untrue then?

Just paid my £3 and voted for Jeremy. I really hope he wins.

What you on about? I've made a fortune backing Jeremy as has anyone else that took my advice when he was 3/1.

You don't get it do you? By voting for Jeremy us right wingers get what we want. A totally unelectable Labour party which leaves the way clear for UKIP to storm through and ensure the country is right wing for decades. Any right winger worth his salt should pay £3 and vote for Jeremy. Well worth the money.

IC1967

[wilts rover]

What's wrong with my position on the Labour leadership? There is an opportunity to make good money. Morals doesn't come into it. All I've done is given people the benefit of my expertise and told them to lump on at 3/1.

That's all you have done? Really? So as a confirmed right-wing UKIP supporter are you saying this is untrue then?

Just paid my £3 and voted for Jeremy. I really hope he wins.

What you on about? I've made a fortune backing Jeremy as has anyone else that took my advice when he was 3/1.

You don't get it do you? By voting for Jeremy us right wingers get what we want. A totally unelectable Labour party which leaves the way clear for UKIP to storm through and ensure the country is right wing for decades. Any right winger worth his salt should pay £3 and vote for Jeremy. Well worth the money.

IC1967

Nor apparently do you - other than confirming my previous post on your ethics and morals.

Once a salesman - always a salesman.

[BobG]

Ok. Fair enough Wilts. And apologies to Wheatley if it is as you suggest Wilts. Not too great an apology though - there is clearly a close connection somewhere given how often one backs up the other. I guess the mods might know. They could take a look at the IP's perhaps.

As for Mick, do you reckon his brain has softened now having to keep up with everything he invents? He's consistently been making more and more mistakes for a while now. The one you pointed out is simply one amongst many. Maybe it's all that mental masturbation he's been doing for years now? No end product though. Best get 'em counted Mick.

BobG

[i_ateallthepies]

I'm with you Bob, the fool has had more reincarnations than Dr Who and expects us to believe this time it isn't him???

[IC1967]

I'm with you Bob, the fool has had more reincarnations than Dr Who and expects us to believe this time it isn't him???

You may think I'm a fool. No doubt you would feel foolish if wheatleylad was not an alias of mine.

IC1967 (not the fool)

[wheatleylad]

Some of you would do badly in the CID! I am my own man, hard as it is for some of you to grasp!

[bobjimwilly]

where have you been for the last week wheatleylad? Bit of a co-incidence IC1967 has stopped posting, and here you are again, don't you think?

[Iberian Red]

Some of you would do badly in the CID! I am my own man, hard as it is for some of you to grasp!

Can I smell bacon?

Anyway,there's a contradiction in your post. A pre-requisite for joining the C.I.D is doing badly.

[BobG]

Dunno Iberian. But there's a very nasty smell around here these days.

BobG

[BRMC_rover]

The Austrians are now looking to get out of the Euro. They do not like the aggressive, rigid and anti-democratic nature of the EU.

[donnyproletarian]

The EEU is basically a capitalist institution formed by respectve governments to further exploit its working class populations.When the political pendulum swings right across nation states were all in the dog house swallowing the austerity con.However, and paradoxically left wing swings ensures some protection through progressive measures like the working time directives , human rights act and minimam wage to name a few.Our area has also benefited from grants to create jobs when our governments ignored us.On the whole we have in my opinion more pluses than minuses.

While being under no illusion that things are turning nasty we should not be conned by these clowns in UKIP who are peddling the myth that kick a few immigrants out will solve our economic problems.Farrage being an ex banker doesnt seriously beleve his own propoganda.Anybody who has studied economics understands the basics that when you take out X  ammount of consumers from the market it will relatively contract by the same number of commodities .So we still end up with the same number of unemployed etc .Its irrelevant whether they are black, yellow or pink with red stripes.Please feal free IC whats it, to correct my understanding of supply and demmand as the Oxford college I attended did not have economics for dummies on its reading list.

The way forward is to unite people accross nation states as together we can progress to world were we are not subject to the whims of a capitalist world in crisis which will inevitably choke on its own greed.

Tin hat is on .Let the barrage of insults commence

Economics apart we owe a duty of care to the human beings who are suffering not least because of the part this country played in its colonial past.This is a moral argument but is no less valid or relevant in todays political climate.

[wilts rover]

Which Oxford College was that Donnyproletarian, Ruskin?

[BobG]

"The way forward is to unite people accross nation states as together we can progress to world were we are not subject to the whims of a capitalist world in crisis which will inevitably choke on its own greed."

Hi DP. Well, yes. And no. The snag with that argument is that it has been tried before. And it failed. Catastrophically. The workers across Europe were all supposed to unite in opposition to all those nasty declarations of war in 1914. There had been quite a lot of talk and agitation and expressions of support for it before the war.  There were conventions about it. Stockholm springs to mind for example. But the pesky workers wouldn't unite. So they died instead. What makes you think success will follow someone encouraging workers to unite in support of what the press will inevitably and categorically label as a revolution?

BobG

[donnyproletarian]

WR It was plater catholic college sister to Ruskin

Bob G
Not saying I have all the answers but I do believe that to continue as we are is a recipe for disaster.
You are right about the 1917 revolution but need to take account of the blockades , famines etc that followed from isolation .Weigh this however, against the economic gains made with Russia going from a peasant economy to a super power in fifty years on the basis of a planned economy.

Marx as a scientist got it wrong as he thought Socialism would occur in a industrial country first.He also could not have foreseen the likes of Stalin who stands along side Hitler with his record on human rights.Marx had the idea that socialism was a transition to communism when the state would wither away .Hence justifying the one party state through democratic centralism a distortion of what Lenon termed the vanguard or elite.I dont buy into this idea.

I do think however that Russia demonstrates an embrionic idea of what could be possible with a planned economy.In the UK we already have a planned economy.The difference its planned in the interests of big corporations and dependent on the suffering of millions.

There needs to be a debate on how we choose to live as a society with safeguards in place that protect our most vulnerable members.

Someone once said there is enough money for everyones need but not enough for everyones greed.I believe this as this mentality is encouraged by the kind of world we live in.However, I dont buy into the argument that human nature dictates we are all greedy bas**rds.We do what we need to survive through economic constraints.There are instances in history were people have altuistically and collectively united to overcome hurdles in the interests of what they perceive as the common good.Dont be frightened of the word revolution its whats needed but it has to start from within .

[wheatleylad]

Some of you would do badly in the CID! I am my own man, hard as it is for some of you to grasp!

Can I smell bacon?

Anyway,there's a contradiction in your post. A pre-requisite for joining the C.I.D is doing badly.

Some of you people really make me laugh. When are you going to grow up and leave the playground. Did your mother not tell you that name calling is rather childish.

Why the anti Police jibe? I suspect that you haven't got the balls to be a copper, not to mention the common sense.

[Iberian Red]

Some of you would do badly in the CID! I am my own man, hard as it is for some of you to grasp!

Can I smell bacon?

Anyway,there's a contradiction in your post. A pre-requisite for joining the C.I.D is doing badly.

Some of you people really make me laugh. When are you going to grow up and leave the playground. Did your mother not tell you that name calling is rather childish.

Why the anti Police jibe? I suspect that you haven't got the balls to be a copper, not to mention the common sense.

Is English also your second language?

[Iberian Red]

Some of you would do badly in the CID! I am my own man, hard as it is for some of you to grasp!

Can I smell bacon?

Anyway,there's a contradiction in your post. A pre-requisite for joining the C.I.D is doing badly.

Some of you people really make me laugh. When are you going to grow up and leave the playground. Did your mother not tell you that name calling is rather childish.

Why the anti Police jibe? I suspect that you haven't got the balls to be a copper, not to mention the common sense.

Common sense???
She told me to have more ambition and become a traffic warden.