The Board

[idler]

Haven't those two clubs had the same money men backing them for a few years now haven't they?
Would you prefer McAnthony to Terry Bramhall?
I always feel he's only ever a strop away from pulling the plug on Peterborough.

[Getridorit]

Seen this question asked a few times now.

But do the club actively seek new investment?

[BobG]

For any supporter of Donny Rovers to rabbit on about accepting money from just about anybody is a clear demonstration of just how short memories are. It's on a par with me saying I think Mrs Thatcher was a fantastic Prime Minister because she stopped everybody going on strike. We don't deserve to have a football club to support, and we won't have one to support, if this sort of thinking, this Thatcherite demanding to have everything and to have it right now, passes unchallenged. It is thinking without the use of brain cells. It is emotional demanding and it has no reference to any realities of the world. 

BobG

[Michael Gibson]

I know I take some stick but I’ve had a look at the realities and possible situations but after this reign of stubbornness I doubt anything would change. 

Director of football??? None starter

Why employ butler?? Nobody has a clue why

Pompey appoint cowleys, charlton appoint Adkins in a crucial period of the season, we appoint a women’s Sunday league manager.

There’s a point of no return at points in time, and despite all the silence from the board which I think is just as annoying as there decisions, the fans would rather Baldwin or blunt say.... ok it’s a major balls up... but they won’t as they have shares in the club.

The club needs to be honest and explain to the fans why every manager goes elsewhere!!! We all know why so let’s hear it from the top.  Just a genuine opinion and factually based.

[normal rules]

Haven't those two clubs had the same money men backing them for a few years now haven't they?
Would you prefer McAnthony to Terry Bramhall?
I always feel he's only ever a strop away from pulling the plug on Peterborough.

I’m unsure about Mcanthony being one strop away from pulling the plug on Posh; more like one fraud away from a jail term.

[BobG]

Are you thick Gibbo? We all know why Butler was appointed. It's bleeding obvious. Except to those without the ability to think.

BobG

[redarmy82]

For any supporter of Donny Rovers to rabbit on about accepting money from just about anybody is a clear demonstration of just how short memories are. It's on a par with me saying I think Mrs Thatcher was a fantastic Prime Minister because she stopped everybody going on strike. We don't deserve to have a football club to support, and we won't have one to support, if this sort of thinking, this Thatcherite demanding to have everything and to have it right now, passes unchallenged. It is thinking without the use of brain cells. It is emotional demanding and it has no reference to any realities of the world. 

BobG

Good God.

[redarmy82]

Are you thick Gibbo? We all know why Butler was appointed. It's bleeding obvious. Except to those without the ability to think.

BobG

Go on. Enlighten the mentally challenged among us, you patronising prat.

[normal rules]

"EFL Club for sale. Assets - virtually zero. Prospects-14,900 capacity leased stadium with average attendances 6 to 8,000. Current status. League One

Investment required. Min Approx £20m over 10 years. Returns = Tolerance at best. Criticism and condemnation otherwise. Thick skin required“

How do the likes of Peterborough and Rotherham attract significant investment on that basis?

How is it an investment?

Okay, if you want to be pedantic, I will rephrase.

How do they find people to pump in significant amounts of money?

It seems to be the thinking, there is no one out there who will put money into the club, other than the current owners. Other clubs manage to find people.

Redarmy. Might I suggest you google “football clubs and money laundering”
Where there is money (lots of it) there is usually some form of corruption. The two go hand in hand.
Perhaps there are not too many clubs at it, but be under no illusion it is happening. In the case of Peterborough, You don’t have to research MacAnthony too much to find the breadcrumbs of crime and criminality.

[GazLaz]

Isn’t DM one of three co-owners at Posh?

[BobG]

If you can't work it out for yourself redarmy, there's not much point anyone telling you. You wouldn't understand. You thick prat.

Regards

BobG

[Prez]

Isn’t DM one of three co-owners at Posh?

Yes. im sure one of the other guys is a canadian investor.

[Michael Gibson]

Hope your well Bob, it’s just a passage that is occurring and the owners etc are burying there heads in the sand mate hoping it goes away...

Whilst they continue to do this and completely blank fans questions,it’s a recipe for disaster mate.  Let’s be frank not one pro board supporter can back the boards ambition compared with charlton appointing adkins andPompey the cowleys.... that says everything mate....they don’t want it, if they did why appoint Andy butler???If they seriously wanted promotion butler wouldn’t be appointed and that’s a fact!!!!....

[PDX_Rover]

Bloody hell, this is getting ridiculous.

For me it comes down to whether we have a club that is run on sound principles, that seeks to do things the right way and that we can be proud of.

I’ve been in love with Rovers since my Dad took me in the 1973/74 season. I was 6 and the excitement, the bad language, the smell of beer, cigarettes and so on... intoxicating for a little lad stood against the hoardings at the front because I couldn’t see anything back in the crowd...

The atmosphere, the sense of unity, the collective joy, or more often, despair... all wonderful loking back.

We were always a third or fourth division side. It didn’t matter. Seeing the likes of Kitch, Big Bren, Ian Miller, then the Snods, Tommy Gaynor, Duggie, Bruno... the list goes on.

We almost died as a club when we allowed the criminal element into the club. So, it’s all the more reassuring that we have the stability now that we do. We’ve been to the brink of the abyss, but unlike many others, we were resuscitated by a fan driven movement, and by JR, with support from others. What a ride that was, eh?

Rovers bounced back stronger than they had ever been.

Then the KM2 were brought into the fold and the upward trajectory continued.

We used to get 2000 fans just about back on the day... We’ve grown despite of all the other entertainment/distraction options out there. That’s to do with the club doing great things on the pitch and increasingly, off it.

It’s not been all unicorns and puppy dogs though has it? The experiment, the bizarre takeover shenanigans by some dodgy offshore hedge fund on the basis of a faxed bank statement...

The profile of the club has been raised by the League Cup run under Penney, by the enthusiasm of an ever media-ready John Ryan, by our achievements under O’Driscoll and Kelly, by Brentford, by Wembley, and by the likes of a certain James Coppinger...

The club is respected and we’re no longer a northern football backwater.

We’re comfortably an established League One side and we could very well sustain a Championship berth, I believe.

This current situation is a bit of a reset. It happens. The calibre of applicants we receive is an indication of how well the club is regarded.

Of course, money and greed turns heads. Always has. Always will. That’s life.

But that’s part of the adventure isn’t it?

I tried to think of another club that has had such a dramatic series of events on the pitch this century. I’m totally biased but I can’t think of one...

This is a blip. I’m actually excited. Because at each reset, we’ve come out stronger in some ways.

Faith. Belief.

[the vicar]

Bloody hell, this is getting ridiculous.

For me it comes down to whether we have a club that is run on sound principles, that seeks to do things the right way and that we can be proud of.

I’ve been in love with Rovers since my Dad took me in the 1973/74 season. I was 6 and the excitement, the bad language, the smell of beer, cigarettes and so on... intoxicating for a little lad stood against the hoardings at the front because I couldn’t see anything back in the crowd...

The atmosphere, the sense of unity, the collective joy, or more often, despair... all wonderful loking back.

We were always a third or fourth division side. It didn’t matter. Seeing the likes of Kitch, Big Bren, Ian Miller, then the Snods, Tommy Gaynor, Duggie, Bruno... the list goes on.

We almost died as a club when we allowed the criminal element into the club. So, it’s all the more reassuring that we have the stability now that we do. We’ve been to the brink of the abyss, but unlike many others, we were resuscitated by a fan driven movement, and by JR, with support from others. What a ride that was, eh?

Rovers bounced back stronger than they had ever been.

Then the KM2 were brought into the fold and the upward trajectory continued.

We used to get 2000 fans just about back on the day... We’ve grown despite of all the other entertainment/distraction options out there. That’s to do with the club doing great things on the pitch and increasingly, off it.

It’s not been all unicorns and puppy dogs though has it? The experiment, the bizarre takeover shenanigans by some dodgy offshore hedge fund on the basis of a faxed bank statement...

The profile of the club has been raised by the League Cup run under Penney, by the enthusiasm of an ever media-ready John Ryan, by our achievements under O’Driscoll and Kelly, by Brentford, by Wembley, and by the likes of a certain James Coppinger...

The club is respected and we’re no longer a northern football backwater.

We’re comfortably an established League One side and we could very well sustain a Championship berth, I believe.

This current situation is a bit of a reset. It happens. The calibre of applicants we receive is an indication of how well the club is regarded.

Of course, money and greed turns heads. Always has. Always will. That’s life.

But that’s part of the adventure isn’t it?

I tried to think of another club that has had such a dramatic series of events on the pitch this century. I’m totally biased but I can’t think of one...

This is a blip. I’m actually excited. Because at each reset, we’ve come out stronger in some ways.

Faith. Belief.

they will all know if the board get fed up of getting slagged off and PULL THE BLOODY PLUG

[VivaRovers]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was pretty much zero disdain at the appointment of Andy Butler until the end of the season at the time of his appointment, and especially not after he'd won his first two games in charge.

If appointing Andy Butler was as non-sensical as some posters are suggesting, then why were they not shouting about it at the time? Butler was clearly appointed for many reasons; continuity, of giving someone within the club who's unlikely to jump ship at the first opportunity a chance, and of steadying things in what remains a crazy fan-less season until we can take a proper stock of things in the summer.

The big difference between us and Charlton, and Portsmouth, is that they were replacing managers who were sacked, and so they would have been presumably looking down that process for months; we were replacing a manager who resigned, and so probably always had this approach lined up as a contingency, for this season at least, while budgets and such are stretched by the ongoing pandemic. Did the board want to deploy that contingency? Probably not, as like all of us, they would've hoped Moore was committed to a long-term project.

I've always called out practices by the club that I think are wrong or misguided (and I've taken my fair share of stick for it), but as disappointing and frustrating and annoying as results are on the field at the moment, I still think the board's approach, when the wider factors are considered is the most sensible one to take in a very unusual set of circumstances.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Hope your well Bob, it’s just a passage that is occurring and the owners etc are burying there heads in the sand mate hoping it goes away...

Whilst they continue to do this and completely blank fans questions,it’s a recipe for disaster mate.  Let’s be frank not one pro board supporter can back the boards ambition compared with charlton appointing adkins andPompey the cowleys.... that says everything mate....they don’t want it, if they did why appoint Andy butler???If they seriously wanted promotion butler wouldn’t be appointed and that’s a fact!!!!....

Please go and look up the meaning of the word fact. I can assure you it doesn't mean 'whatever Michael Gibson guesses', no matter how many exclamation marks you put after it like a twelve-year-old.

[dickos1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was pretty much zero disdain at the appointment of Andy Butler until the end of the season at the time of his appointment, and especially not after he'd won his first two games in charge.

If appointing Andy Butler was as non-sensical as some posters are suggesting, then why were they not shouting about it at the time? Butler was clearly appointed for many reasons; continuity, of giving someone within the club who's unlikely to jump ship at the first opportunity a chance, and of steadying things in what remains a crazy fan-less season until we can take a proper stock of things in the summer.

The big difference between us and Charlton, and Portsmouth, is that they were replacing managers who were sacked, and so they would have been presumably looking down that process for months; we were replacing a manager who resigned, and so probably always had this approach lined up as a contingency, for this season at least, while budgets and such are stretched by the ongoing pandemic. Did the board want to deploy that contingency? Probably not, as like all of us, they would've hoped Moore was committed to a long-term project.

I've always called out practices by the club that I think are wrong or misguided (and I've taken my fair share of stick for it), but as disappointing and frustrating and annoying as results are on the field at the moment, I still think the board's approach, when the wider factors are considered is the most sensible one to take in a very unusual set of circumstances.

People keep saying this but there were a few people saying it at the time.
I was happy with him taking the reigns but I thought it was naive to come out and say he had it until the end of the season and said so at the time, we’ve hung ourselves out to dry.
We could’ve given him the job while we started the long drawn out process which the board like, and we would now be in a position to employ someone else, as it is we’re down a road with nowhere to turn,

[Alan Southstand]

Viva, you’ve obviously not read every post at the time. I clearly laid out my three pennyworth by saying I had absolutely nothing against AB, but I would have much preferred a more experienced appointment. Not exactly word for word, but I can’t be bothered to trawl back through all the posts.

Just saying.

[jmt23]

Im sick of the board bashing by the same people, seemingly looking to wind people up or cause some form of upset, without any evidence or care.

The guys in charge are putting their money in to our club, and keeping us (in the main) towards the top of the table, ok we've had a blip, but how can the board be to blame for any of it.

We have had justification in questioning the leadership of our club in the past, but that was with facts and evidence, not some made up bull...t by keyboard warriors.

Same group each and every time.

[scawsby steve]

I think there's some confusion with some people as to what is actually meant by the term "The Board". Terry Bramall is our benefactor; it's his money that's being pumped in to keep us out of debt. However, as far as I know, he leaves the footballing decisions to Gavin Baldwin and David Blunt.

Nobody knows what decisions they'll make from now up to the end of the season, and in the Summer; but the thing that concerns me most is the sale of season tickets for next season.

If we don't get things right, our revenue from these could be abysmally low.

[VivaRovers]

We could’ve given him the job while we started the long drawn out process which the board like, and we would now be in a position to employ someone else, as it is we’re down a road with nowhere to turn,

But what if we'd started that long process and in the interim Andy Butler had us competitively in the top four... then no doubt the board would be being criticised (not necessarily by you) for not taking a chance on one of our own etc.

Viva, you’ve obviously not read every post at the time.

I certainly haven't, largely for my own sanity. It's an approach I certainly endorse.

Perhaps I should've said 'barely any' rather than 'pretty much zero'. Either way, the point I was making in my post was that posters suggesting that 'no-one has a clue why' Butler was appointed are being wilfully obtuse, when it's clear there are lots of reasons why he was appointed.

[since-1969]

Having appointed Butler and now with  the subsequent results being off the pace ..,why haven’t they come out and shown their support towards him and quell any unrest!!!

[Jonathan]

Having appointed Butler and now with  the subsequent results being off the pace ..,why haven’t they come out and shown their support towards him and quell any unrest!!!

“Quell any unrest!” Haha I’m sure that would nip it in the bud. Are you a comedian in your spare time?

[idler]

Having appointed Butler and now with  the subsequent results being off the pace ..,why haven’t they come out and shown their support towards him and quell any unrest!!!

Don't you think that if the board did that their critics would just say that they were trying to justify their actions in appointing him in the first place?
I don't think that it would placate the more dissatisfied of our supporters.

[drfchound]

Viva, you’ve obviously not read every post at the time.

Quote by viva rovers:
I certainly haven't, largely for my own sanity. It's an approach I certainly endorse.







Viva, I have adopted that policy over the last few months.
I probably miss stuff but most of it isn’t important anyway.

[since-1969]

Having appointed Butler and now with  the subsequent results being off the pace ..,why haven’t they come out and shown their support towards him and quell any unrest!!!

“Quell any unrest!” Haha I’m sure that would nip it in the bud. Are you a comedian in your spare time?

Are you saying most on here are fine and aren’t saying the AB should step down and the board got it wrong , So where is the boards show of support ..or is this demonstrated support manifested by them saying nothing and just let AB fight their battles .  They’ve made a mistake and nothing can be done to change it but let results play out until the end . The next “ Meet the owners meeting “ is going to be very interesting!!   

[Petche]

Bloody hell, this is getting ridiculous.

For me it comes down to whether we have a club that is run on sound principles, that seeks to do things the right way and that we can be proud of.

I’ve been in love with Rovers since my Dad took me in the 1973/74 season. I was 6 and the excitement, the bad language, the smell of beer, cigarettes and so on... intoxicating for a little lad stood against the hoardings at the front because I couldn’t see anything back in the crowd...

The atmosphere, the sense of unity, the collective joy, or more often, despair... all wonderful loking back.

We were always a third or fourth division side. It didn’t matter. Seeing the likes of Kitch, Big Bren, Ian Miller, then the Snods, Tommy Gaynor, Duggie, Bruno... the list goes on.

We almost died as a club when we allowed the criminal element into the club. So, it’s all the more reassuring that we have the stability now that we do. We’ve been to the brink of the abyss, but unlike many others, we were resuscitated by a fan driven movement, and by JR, with support from others. What a ride that was, eh?

Rovers bounced back stronger than they had ever been.

Then the KM2 were brought into the fold and the upward trajectory continued.

We used to get 2000 fans just about back on the day... We’ve grown despite of all the other entertainment/distraction options out there. That’s to do with the club doing great things on the pitch and increasingly, off it.

It’s not been all unicorns and puppy dogs though has it? The experiment, the bizarre takeover shenanigans by some dodgy offshore hedge fund on the basis of a faxed bank statement...

The profile of the club has been raised by the League Cup run under Penney, by the enthusiasm of an ever media-ready John Ryan, by our achievements under O’Driscoll and Kelly, by Brentford, by Wembley, and by the likes of a certain James Coppinger...

The club is respected and we’re no longer a northern football backwater.

We’re comfortably an established League One side and we could very well sustain a Championship berth, I believe.

This current situation is a bit of a reset. It happens. The calibre of applicants we receive is an indication of how well the club is regarded.

Of course, money and greed turns heads. Always has. Always will. That’s life.

But that’s part of the adventure isn’t it?

I tried to think of another club that has had such a dramatic series of events on the pitch this century. I’m totally biased but I can’t think of one...

This is a blip. I’m actually excited. Because at each reset, we’ve come out stronger in some ways.

Faith. Belief.

Wow perspective!
That's the best thing posted on here in weeks

[podrover73]

Having appointed Butler and now with  the subsequent results being off the pace ..,why haven’t they come out and shown their support towards him and quell any unrest!!!

“Quell any unrest!” Haha I’m sure that would nip it in the bud. Are you a comedian in your spare time?

Are you saying most on here are fine and aren’t saying the AB should step down and the board got it wrong , So where is the boards show of support ..or is this demonstrated support manifested by them saying nothing and just let AB fight their battles .  They’ve made a mistake and nothing can be done to change it but let results play out until the end . The next “ Meet the owners meeting “ is going to be very interesting!!   

the next meet the board meeting where you and Michael Gibson and other detractors suddenly have something else to do that night and don't attend

[PDX_Rover]

Bloody hell, this is getting ridiculous.

For me it comes down to whether we have a club that is run on sound principles, that seeks to do things the right way and that we can be proud of.

I’ve been in love with Rovers since my Dad took me in the 1973/74 season. I was 6 and the excitement, the bad language, the smell of beer, cigarettes and so on... intoxicating for a little lad stood against the hoardings at the front because I couldn’t see anything back in the crowd...

The atmosphere, the sense of unity, the collective joy, or more often, despair... all wonderful loking back.

We were always a third or fourth division side. It didn’t matter. Seeing the likes of Kitch, Big Bren, Ian Miller, then the Snods, Tommy Gaynor, Duggie, Bruno... the list goes on.

We almost died as a club when we allowed the criminal element into the club. So, it’s all the more reassuring that we have the stability now that we do. We’ve been to the brink of the abyss, but unlike many others, we were resuscitated by a fan driven movement, and by JR, with support from others. What a ride that was, eh?

Rovers bounced back stronger than they had ever been.

Then the KM2 were brought into the fold and the upward trajectory continued.

We used to get 2000 fans just about back on the day... We’ve grown despite of all the other entertainment/distraction options out there. That’s to do with the club doing great things on the pitch and increasingly, off it.

It’s not been all unicorns and puppy dogs though has it? The experiment, the bizarre takeover shenanigans by some dodgy offshore hedge fund on the basis of a faxed bank statement...

The profile of the club has been raised by the League Cup run under Penney, by the enthusiasm of an ever media-ready John Ryan, by our achievements under O’Driscoll and Kelly, by Brentford, by Wembley, and by the likes of a certain James Coppinger...

The club is respected and we’re no longer a northern football backwater.

We’re comfortably an established League One side and we could very well sustain a Championship berth, I believe.

This current situation is a bit of a reset. It happens. The calibre of applicants we receive is an indication of how well the club is regarded.

Of course, money and greed turns heads. Always has. Always will. That’s life.

But that’s part of the adventure isn’t it?

I tried to think of another club that has had such a dramatic series of events on the pitch this century. I’m totally biased but I can’t think of one...

This is a blip. I’m actually excited. Because at each reset, we’ve come out stronger in some ways.

Faith. Belief.

Wow perspective!
That's the best thing posted on here in weeks

Cheers. Appreciate that. I just think it's good to stand back sometimes and look at the bigger picture. No club is ever going to get everything right. And it's an easy option to support a "big" club from the comfort of your armchair. As Rovers fans we choose not to do that, so fair play to everybody on here, frankly.

It'll be reight.