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Branton Rover

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Chat GPT
« on December 03, 2023, 01:38:32 pm by Branton Rover »
According to AI this is DRFC greatest 11;

Creating a "greatest 11" for Doncaster Rovers is subjective and can vary depending on personal opinions. However, here is a potential lineup of some of the most notable players in the history of Doncaster Rovers:

1. Harry Gregg (Goalkeeper)
2. James Coppinger (Right-back)
3. Tommy Rowe (Left-back)
4. Rob Jones (Center-back)
5. Colin Douglas (Center-back)
6. Richie Wellens (Midfielder)
7. Billy Sharp (Forward)
8. Peter Kitchen (Forward)
9. Alick Jeffrey (Forward)
10. Brian Stock (Midfielder)
11. Alfie May (Forward)

This lineup includes players who have made significant contributions to Doncaster Rovers over the years. However, there have been many other talented players who have represented the club, and opinions may vary on the best 11.

Opinions please from humans



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GazLaz

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #1 on December 03, 2023, 01:41:31 pm by GazLaz »
Wellens and Stock are going to have to do plenty of running.

NickDRFC

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #2 on December 03, 2023, 01:43:14 pm by NickDRFC »
Is Chat GPT a pseudonym for Bentley Bullet?

mushRTID

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #3 on December 03, 2023, 02:23:40 pm by mushRTID »
Tommy Rowe LB, I thought we’d seen the last of this!!!

glosterred

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #4 on December 03, 2023, 02:30:09 pm by glosterred »
Copps at right back tells you all you need to know about Chat GPT whatever Chat GPT is


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Branton Rover

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #5 on December 03, 2023, 02:32:11 pm by Branton Rover »
Is it run by Paul Dickov? He played Copps at fullback.

philsky

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #6 on December 03, 2023, 02:48:31 pm by philsky »
McIndoe

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #7 on December 03, 2023, 02:58:01 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Must have used mentions on this forum to get Alfie May in there.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #8 on December 03, 2023, 03:01:17 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Gives you confidence that AI int quite ready to take over the world just yet.

Campsall rover

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #9 on December 03, 2023, 04:15:20 pm by Campsall rover »
Gives you confidence that AI int quite ready to take over the world just yet.
That line up makes me very concerned that it would make a serious mess of running the world BST.
There are 2 players in that 11 that wouldn’t get in our 4th best 11.
May and Rowe.


ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #10 on December 03, 2023, 04:35:23 pm by ForsolongaRover »
According to AI this is DRFC greatest 11;

Creating a "greatest 11" for Doncaster Rovers is subjective and can vary depending on personal opinions. However, here is a potential lineup of some of the most notable players in the history of Doncaster Rovers:

1. Harry Gregg (Goalkeeper)
2. James Coppinger (Right-back)
3. Tommy Rowe (Left-back)
4. Rob Jones (Center-back)
5. Colin Douglas (Center-back)
6. Richie Wellens (Midfielder)
7. Billy Sharp (Forward)
8. Peter Kitchen (Forward)
9. Alick Jeffrey (Forward)
10. Brian Stock (Midfielder)
11. Alfie May (Forward)

This lineup includes players who have made significant contributions to Doncaster Rovers over the years. However, there have been many other talented players who have represented the club, and opinions may vary on the best 11.

Opinions please from humans

I suppose AI can only draw info from what is online and Gregg and Alick get there because there will be historical stuff online relating to them. Alfie presumably makes because of the retrospective praise because John Marquis would beat him comfortably on achievements. I'm not going into a boring recital of older heroes, but it puts the list into context.

Bessie Red

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« Reply #11 on December 03, 2023, 04:42:19 pm by Bessie Red »
No Ian Snodin or Peter Kitchen!!

drfchound

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« Reply #12 on December 03, 2023, 04:51:55 pm by drfchound »
No Ian Snodin or Peter Kitchen!!

Kitch is included Bessie.
Copps at RB though, what about JoC.

Campsall rover

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #13 on December 03, 2023, 05:07:14 pm by Campsall rover »
No Ian Snodin or Peter Kitchen!!

Kitch is included Bessie.
Copps at RB though, what about JoC.
Roberts left back and I am going on post 1975
What about those 1950’s players. Only Gregg & Jeffrey in that 11.

Ian Snodin walks into that 11 blindfolded. He is best I ever saw post 1975.
Glynn gets in possibly also. Depends on formation. Roberts, G Snodin or McIndoe make a very formidable pairing down the left hand side.
O’Connor & Coppinger down the right.

We have had this time after time. It’s all opinions and dependant on ages on who we saw play.

But seriously to have Alfie May in the best 11 is farcical. How many games did he start for us? Tommy Rowe even at his best was miles behind, I Snodin, Stock, Wellens, Green, and Oster just for starters.
I could add another 4 at least midfielders to that list.




« Last Edit: December 03, 2023, 05:10:54 pm by Campsall rover »

Ho

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #14 on December 03, 2023, 05:25:40 pm by Ho »
Gives you confidence that AI int quite ready to take over the world just yet.

To be fair, its learning of all things Rovers related would be significantly impacted by Danny Begara’s shirt number tactics.  There’s no way anyone at OpenAI would have built for an edge case like that…

Drover

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« Reply #15 on December 03, 2023, 06:28:47 pm by Drover »
I would hazard a guess that the AI has used a formulae along the lines of,as far as the evidence it's used,Copps and Rowe being the best of the players we've had to play for us in those positions at some time,not the best LB and RB players we've had,there is a difference and it should really be the later,also,it looks like its has took into account too much weight of popularity instead of actual ability,performance etc hence Alfie May and Dougie being picked for best CH.Still a great list of players,but there is plenty more quality players missing off the list too,for me it's an impossible task to pick the best ever Rovers 11,everytime this discussion comes up,I end up frustrated with all the players and options and cannot make a solid choice.

ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #16 on December 03, 2023, 06:35:13 pm by ForsolongaRover »
No Ian Snodin or Peter Kitchen!!

Kitch is included Bessie.
Copps at RB though, what about JoC.
Roberts left back and I am going on post 1975
What about those 1950’s players. Only Gregg & Jeffrey in that 11.

Ian Snodin walks into that 11 blindfolded. He is best I ever saw post 1975.
Glynn gets in possibly also. Depends on formation. Roberts, G Snodin or McIndoe make a very formidable pairing down the left hand side.
O’Connor & Coppinger down the right.

We have had this time after time. It’s all opinions and dependant on ages on who we saw play.

But seriously to have Alfie May in the best 11 is farcical. How many games did he start for us? Tommy Rowe even at his best was miles behind, I Snodin, Stock, Wellens, Green, and Oster just for starters.
I could add another 4 at least midfielders to that list.

As I said in my post, AI is surely totally reliant on what is online. AI would surely also need specific criteria as to how the requester would like to see the judgement made because what is online is a mixture of fact and opinion. It illustrates the fact that in producing any answers you surely have to be careful about framing the question. (Drover seems to making similar points.)

Bessie Red

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #17 on December 03, 2023, 06:38:18 pm by Bessie Red »
No Ian Snodin or Peter Kitchen!!

Kitch is included Bessie.
Copps at RB though, what about JoC.
Ah yes, missed him when I read through it!

DRNaith

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Re: Chat GPT
« Reply #18 on December 05, 2023, 05:48:50 pm by DRNaith »
No El Haj Diouf?

I'm having to use AI and much of the results come from the source used. For example, if the press that was published when EHD played for us focussed more on him playing for the team, rather than what he actually achieved during the game; goals, dinking penalties down the centre of the goal, assists etc.. then he's not going to be rated by AI, to the level of maybe a youth team player who breaks into the first team squad for a game and performs better than expected.

The crudest of AI relies heavily on a fair level of data from it's sources. If that source is the internet, it isn't necessarily going to be fair or balanced.

Padge_DRFC

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« Reply #19 on December 05, 2023, 05:50:30 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Rob Jones another reason for ignoring it.

drfchound

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« Reply #20 on December 05, 2023, 08:08:46 pm by drfchound »
No El Haj Diouf?

I'm having to use AI and much of the results come from the source used. For example, if the press that was published when EHD played for us focussed more on him playing for the team, rather than what he actually achieved during the game; goals, dinking penalties down the centre of the goal, assists etc.. then he's not going to be rated by AI, to the level of maybe a youth team player who breaks into the first team squad for a game and performs better than expected.

The crudest of AI relies heavily on a fair level of data from it's sources. If that source is the internet, it isn't necessarily going to be fair or balanced.

Diouf was superb for us.

Dutch Uncle

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« Reply #21 on December 05, 2023, 08:14:17 pm by Dutch Uncle »
From pure online data how can it have ignored Tom Keetley?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Keetley

ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #22 on December 06, 2023, 10:30:03 am by ForsolongaRover »
From pure online data how can it have ignored Tom Keetley?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Keetley


Excellent point. Knowing a subject inside out (as with the collective knowledge of a Forum like this) really knocks down the widely-held popular view of AI that suddenly we have an all-knowing power at our command. You wouldn't really give it more than 5 out of 10 for its list and what is more there are quite a few on here who could do a lot better, possibly even without too much reference to what is on line.

 

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