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Quote from: IDM on August 01, 2020, 03:12:10 pmIf you have served Queen and country then you know how paying of respect is done. It isn’t by kneeling.By implying it is, in a counter argument to taking a knee for BLM, then that makes me question your motives..I’m anti racist but I am not on the public eye so there is no need for me to take a knee to send out a message.But these counter arguments, like “white lives matter”, are disturbing.so in reality IDM saying all lives matter bothers you
If you have served Queen and country then you know how paying of respect is done. It isn’t by kneeling.By implying it is, in a counter argument to taking a knee for BLM, then that makes me question your motives..I’m anti racist but I am not on the public eye so there is no need for me to take a knee to send out a message.But these counter arguments, like “white lives matter”, are disturbing.
Well I still won't be taking a knee
Quote from: scunny rover on August 02, 2020, 06:30:04 amWell I still won't be taking a kneeYou're in good company by the way, saying you'd only take a knee for your wife and the Queen.The Foreign Secretary said exactly the same thing.That's the same Foreign Secretary who wrote a book ten years ago saying that the White British working class were thick and bone idle.
Till they get a crowd back at Leeds and Millwall.
I actually think that that pressure to take the knee is far greater than any fear of repercussions from fans for not taking it
Mine comes from a belief that sportsmen are normal human beings with their own views. No one can realistically say that all sportsmen that are bending the knee are doing it through choice. Look at motor racing. Why would other sports be different Are you genuinely suggesting that every sportsman bending the knee has no reservations or differing views about it. It’s not logical that every premiership footballer agrees with it. (NOT THAT THEY'RE RACIST IN ANY WAY) before that shout goes out
Who knows why most are not taking a knee in motor racing?Different country, obviously, but the ostentatious flying of the Confederate flag at NASCAR events says something about the culture of the crowds there.
I think the point is it's a matter of choice to bend or not, you shouldn't be labelled by not bending
Sydney. Agreed if you agree with all those things why shouldn’t you do it if that’s what you want to doLikewise if you agree with all those things why shouldn’t you be allowed to choose not to do itIt’s a matter of choice. Not doing it doesn’t outlaw you a racist same as bending the knee because you’re afraid not to doesn’t highlight you as someone who isn’t racist or bigoted[/quoteI think I agree with you but I'm not sure what you said Phil