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Farming subsidies are now to be paid on the environmental efforts farmers make rather than the amount of land they have. Maybe we will see some hedge rows coming back?
Slightly subjective but there is some.merit that not being in the EU procurement strategies has helped get vaccines more quickly too.More than a bit naughty saying it's why we've approved the vaccine though. Interesting to see who's right and who's wrong in that argument.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on December 03, 2020, 11:38:19 amFarming subsidies are now to be paid on the environmental efforts farmers make rather than the amount of land they have. Maybe we will see some hedge rows coming back?Myself and some friends planted two sizeable hedgerows on Sunday morning.
At last, some good news for a change.... https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_20_2346?fbclid=IwAR3qeMycWoiQ0fa5Y7O9qy1VPZlU4sgpbTWkPywW31jwtoBOyPlfFSysEOI
As far as I can see, this "deal" announced today is nothing more that the UK agreeing that we will actually stick to the treaty that we signed in January, and not break international law.What a f**king charade...
As long as the EU keep their word.
Almost beyond belief that with a few days left and 4 and a half years gone since the Brexit vote, we are still in this situation.https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1336633624825827330It was ALWAYS so obvious. There is no way that we get tariff-free access to the Single Market without signing up to stick to the same rules that the rest of the countries in the Single Market play by.Surely everyone can see that? If we get a preferential situation, whereby we get all the benefits of staying in the SM, while having the right to ignore future rules in the SM, the SM immediately ceases to exist. Because why would any other country accept anything less that we have? Why should they have to stick to the rules to get the benefits if we don't? Then the whole concept of a SINGLE market evaporates, if every country opts into what it wants and out of what it doesn't want. So the European countries were NEVER going to let us have a deal like that. Christ, the logic is so simple, a bright 6 year old could follow it. But it's been ignored and pushed aside for 4.5 years. And now here we are. We either accept that reality, or a far harder one will smack us in the face.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 09, 2020, 06:46:38 pmAlmost beyond belief that with a few days left and 4 and a half years gone since the Brexit vote, we are still in this situation.https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1336633624825827330It was ALWAYS so obvious. There is no way that we get tariff-free access to the Single Market without signing up to stick to the same rules that the rest of the countries in the Single Market play by.Surely everyone can see that? If we get a preferential situation, whereby we get all the benefits of staying in the SM, while having the right to ignore future rules in the SM, the SM immediately ceases to exist. Because why would any other country accept anything less that we have? Why should they have to stick to the rules to get the benefits if we don't? Then the whole concept of a SINGLE market evaporates, if every country opts into what it wants and out of what it doesn't want. So the European countries were NEVER going to let us have a deal like that. Christ, the logic is so simple, a bright 6 year old could follow it. But it's been ignored and pushed aside for 4.5 years. And now here we are. We either accept that reality, or a far harder one will smack us in the face.Is it not slightly disingenuous to portray our current negotiating position in that way? I don't doubt that the Brexit dream may very well have been sold to the public on the basis of how easy it would be to have all of the benefits (access to the Single Market being a big one) with none of the commitment to the EU project. But surely the negotiation is slightly more nuanced than that in these final stages of discussion.My understanding is that we're asking for something similar to the free trade agreement that the EU offered to Canada. The EU I believe have historically confirmed that such a deal would be possible - I don't have it to hand but I do recall Barnier or someone similar offering that to us many months ago. However is it not the case that the EU have shifted their position on that and they are now only prepared to offer us a deal that is actually manifestly worse than the deal they offered to Canada, particularly on the subject of state aid/subsidies? To suggest our negotiating position as we sit here today is somehow now asking for the earth does seem a little misrepresentative of where the negotiations appear to be. That the EU will only offer a deal that is more onerous on us than one they have done with Canada is entirely their prerogative, (we chose to leave after all!) but I don't agree with your depiction that the UK are currently the villains in this, no matter how much you believe in the EU project and disagree with the decision to leave and the reasons behind the vote to do so.
As far as I can see, this "deal" announced today is nothing more that the UK agreeing that we will actually stick to the treaty that we signed in January, and not break international law.What a f**king charade...
Regarding food supplies, I won’t be paying through the nose for overinflated french foie gras from Waitrose next year. I’ll settle for some British bred chicken livers instead.And I’ll be taking Camembert and Gouda of my cheese board and sticking to cheddar.
Quote from: normal rules on December 10, 2020, 10:54:38 amRegarding food supplies, I won’t be paying through the nose for overinflated french foie gras from Waitrose next year. I’ll settle for some British bred chicken livers instead.And I’ll be taking Camembert and Gouda of my cheese board and sticking to cheddar. What about Salad (90% comes from Mercia during winter months), Cheddar Cheese (>95% of imported cheddar comes from EU), Citrus Fruits - the list goes on.40% of food and drink consumed in the UK eithers comes from the EU or passes through the EU. Basically you're being naive as fcuk if you think your weekly shop isn't going to be negatively effected.
Our friends in the EU are currently insisting that if they pass a new law in the future with which we in this country do not comply or don't follow suit, then they want the automatic right to punish us and to retaliate.they are saying that the UK should be the only country in the world not to have sovereign control over its fishing waters.Who in their right mind would accept the above? And whilst we do not make the most of our own quota currently, it’s the principle that is key, not the waters or fish.We’ve got some short term pain coming. I think that was always the case. Deal or no deal.Regarding food supplies, I won’t be paying through the nose for overinflated french foie gras from Waitrose next year. I’ll settle for some British bred chicken livers instead.And I’ll be taking Camembert and Gouda of my cheese board and sticking to cheddar.
Fisheries: A proposal for a Regulation to create the appropriate legal framework until 31 December 2021, or until a fisheries agreement with the UK has been concluded – whichever date is earlier – for continued reciprocal access by EU and UK vessels to each other's waters after 31 December 2020. In order to guarantee the sustainability of fisheries and in light of the importance of fisheries for the economic livelihood of many communities, it is necessary to facilitate the procedures of authorisation of fishing vessels.[/b]I get the top three which have nothing to do with any one specific sector, but I think I know what the govt will say about fishing. They are wanting continued access for another year! The French have clearly spoken. Perhaps they thought we would yield at the last moment. They move the goalposts once again to try to suit themselves.