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Title: Fergie today
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 09, 2017, 02:13:39 pm
#drfc boss Darren Ferguson says he's hopeful of at least 1 new signing in the next 7 days.

#drfc boss DF says he wants at least 1 new striker, adding a loan deal for a fwd at a Premier League club is in the pipeline.

#drfc boss DF says they are "very close" to agreeing a new deal with John Marquis.

#drfc boss DF admits transfer-listing Andy Williams is the "hardest decision" he has had to make in deciding his retained list.

#drfc bos DF says he wants at least 2 midfielders, a left back, a left centre-half, plus a couple of strikers.

#drfc boss DF says he was hoping for confirmation in June that the Premier League club will loan the previously mentioned striker.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2017, 02:18:05 pm
Oh Keshi Keshi...
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Herman Hessian on May 09, 2017, 02:30:34 pm
Oh Keshi Keshi...

someone give jamie price a ring - he can have a chat with the lad about where best to get his hair done round Donny....
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on May 09, 2017, 02:31:10 pm
#drfc boss Darren Ferguson says he's hopeful of at least 1 new signing in the next 7 days.

#drfc boss DF says he wants at least 1 new striker, adding a loan deal for a fwd at a Premier League club is in the pipeline.

#drfc boss DF says they are "very close" to agreeing a new deal with John Marquis.

#drfc boss DF admits transfer-listing Andy Williams is the "hardest decision" he has had to make in deciding his retained list.

#drfc bos DF says he wants at least 2 midfielders, a left back, a left centre-half, plus a couple of strikers.

#drfc boss DF says he was hoping for confirmation in June that the Premier League club will loan the previously mentioned striker.

looks like the cat's out of the bag

I posted this at 10.43 today on the Williams thread

after a sheff united match recently the manager was talking about signing players and he said there was one out there today - but he wanted too much money (presumably earlier in the season)- been trying to find the clip from April

so colemans says the decks are being cleared financially for a "rovers return"

let's look into my CRYSTAL ball

looks like Colemans is right ????   
keshi played 70 minutes against Sheff united for Northampton

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39463234

the manager did say HE wanted too much money not THEY wanted too much money
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Wild Rover on May 09, 2017, 02:32:34 pm
Jamie?
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on May 09, 2017, 02:37:58 pm
reading the first post again it's blatantly obvious

#drfc boss DF says he was hoping for confirmation in June that the Premier League club will loan the previously mentioned striker.

my CRYSTAL ball had better make sure CRYSTAL palace stay up otherwise they'll need him if they offload Premiership players
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: donnyguy61 on May 09, 2017, 02:54:18 pm
Just spoken to Darren Ferguson. Hopes to have a left back signed in the next few days #drfc Hodden on twitter
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 09, 2017, 03:16:12 pm
Mansfield one IMO.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Herman Hessian on May 09, 2017, 03:22:02 pm
Jamie?
yeah - him too - both of them, in fact !

i blame senility and stupidity in equal amounts - f**k's sake...
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: keith79 on May 09, 2017, 04:17:24 pm
Stevens off to sheff u
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: phil old leake on May 09, 2017, 04:24:30 pm
Will billy sharp become available now Evans has signed for the blades
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 09, 2017, 04:27:17 pm
Stevens off to sheff u

Him and Bennett both out of contract. Interesting how Kyle improved later this year.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Jonathan on May 09, 2017, 04:41:49 pm
Will billy sharp become available now Evans has signed for the blades

No chance. Sharp will still be their main striker and deserves a proper shot with his team in the championship. Good luck to him, always want to see him do well.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2017, 04:46:33 pm
Stevens off to sheff u

Him and Bennett both out of contract. Interesting how Kyle improved later this year.

Exactly like when he was playing for a new contract with us.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: RedJ on May 09, 2017, 04:48:48 pm
Can someone please tell me what Keshi Anderson has done to warrant signing him?
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 09, 2017, 04:50:44 pm
Stevens off to sheff u

Him and Bennett both out of contract. Interesting how Kyle improved later this year.

Exactly like when he was playing for a new contract with us.

With us or a bigger club? The talent is clearly there but perhaps you can question if he cares or call him lazy.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 09, 2017, 05:49:15 pm
Can someone please tell me what Keshi Anderson has done to warrant signing him?

Fergie knows he can get a tune out of him, he was great for us
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: roversdude on May 09, 2017, 05:56:29 pm
Don't see Keshi as an out and out striker we need a foil for JM
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: BigKeif on May 09, 2017, 06:08:27 pm
I really rate Keshi from his time with us previously but I don't see him a striker but more as a replacement for copps behind the front two. Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 09, 2017, 06:16:24 pm
I really rate Keshi from his time with us previously but I don't see him a striker but more as a replacement for copps behind the front two. Just my opinion of course.

I see Tommy Rowe in that position.

We need a tall striker as priority with only John Marquis with any height as a striker.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: PDX_Rover on May 09, 2017, 06:21:28 pm
I really rate Keshi from his time with us previously but I don't see him a striker but more as a replacement for copps behind the front two. Just my opinion of course.

I see Tommy Rowe in that position.

We need a tall striker as priority with only John Marquis with any height as a striker.


I reckon Keshi could play anywhere in an advanced MF role - central, left or right. Quick feet and creative.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 09, 2017, 06:27:15 pm
Very good interview that. Admitting his own mistakes and learning from them.

His decisions on the released and transfer list seem to concur with most fans views. The next few weeks will tell us what sort of pulling power DF has.

Interesting times ahead.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: BigKeif on May 09, 2017, 06:31:17 pm
I really rate Keshi from his time with us previously but I don't see him a striker but more as a replacement for copps behind the front two. Just my opinion of course.

I see Tommy Rowe in that position.

We need a tall striker as priority with only John Marquis with any height as a striker.


I reckon Keshi could play anywhere in an advanced MF role - central, left or right. Quick feet and creative.

Tbh Steve and PDX I agree with you both there. Stick Rowe in centre and keshi out wide. I just think if we get an opportunity to sign keshi then we should go for it as he showed plenty of quality and promise.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2017, 06:54:47 pm
Keshi is more a Griezmann than a Coppinger.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: bobbymax on May 09, 2017, 07:08:33 pm
I really rate Keshi from his time with us previously but I don't see him a striker but more as a replacement for copps behind the front two. Just my opinion of course.

I see Tommy Rowe in that position.

We need a tall striker as priority with only John Marquis with any height as a striker.


I reckon Keshi could play anywhere in an advanced MF role - central, left or right. Quick feet and creative.
I think you're all basing theories of ability on very limited evidence for us. The kid didn't play much before he broke his leg - is he still as good? (one hat-trick last season excepted)
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: RedJ on May 09, 2017, 07:15:21 pm
Can someone please tell me what Keshi Anderson has done to warrant signing him?

Fergie knows he can get a tune out of him, he was great for us

Sorry but how would he? he never played for Ferguson.

The lad scored a whopping four goals last season yet we've got some weird fascination with him. If he comes back I hope he does well, but I've seen nothing since he picked up a serious injury here to suggest that he's anything special.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 09, 2017, 07:23:25 pm
What are you talking about??
He scored in fergusons first game in charge
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: RedJ on May 09, 2017, 07:27:05 pm
Ah, so he did. Still. He's done nothing since then to show he's worth it.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 09, 2017, 07:29:53 pm
I agree
But some players are at their best for certain managers. Fergie gets the best out of lots of strikers,
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 09, 2017, 07:35:08 pm
Williams for example.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 09, 2017, 07:57:15 pm
Marquis for example,
Mandeville for example
Williams best spell for us was also under Ferguson by a country mile
😂😂
And you say I argue for the sake of it
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Draytonian III on May 09, 2017, 08:07:25 pm
Now that the Blades have resigned Ched Evans what about a cheeky bid for James Hansen the striker/ target man they bought from Bradford, he going to 4th choice striker at the best at the Blades behind Sharp,Clarke and Evans
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Retdon1 on May 09, 2017, 08:17:01 pm
I also don't see what the big fuss surrounding keshi is. Fair enough he was good for us before he got injured but I wouldn't of said he was outstanding. Since his injury he's had a poor spell at Bolton and not pulled up any trees at Northampton. I wouldn't be overly excited about resigning him.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: idler on May 09, 2017, 08:29:04 pm
Now that the Blades have resigned Ched Evans what about a cheeky bid for James Hansen the striker/ target man they bought from Bradford, he going to 4th choice striker at the best at the Blades behind Sharp,Clarke and Evans
He was on £4K a week at City and is now on £10k at Sheffield. Utd.
He misses a lot of games through injury too.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: mushRTID on May 09, 2017, 09:07:20 pm
10k a week for that lump? Are you serious?
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: mpc123 on May 09, 2017, 09:16:54 pm
Keshi is quality and i could see fergie getting the best out of him. Exciting and runs at defences too with quite a bit of speed, perhaps something totally different to what we have now.

I suppose we dont actually know that it is Keshi he is after, but I really hope so.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Draytonian III on May 09, 2017, 10:05:28 pm
10K a week !!!!!!!! I didn't know that ,move on. If he was on 2.5K that would be about right
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on May 10, 2017, 02:37:06 am
Ferguson does well with strikers it's defenders he doesn't seem to know what to with. Without looking at lists of who's released etc i would expect the Mansfield left back, Keshi and Carey from Plymouth might be another one.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 10, 2017, 08:25:43 am
Marquis for example,
Mandeville for example
Williams best spell for us was also under Ferguson by a country mile
😂😂
And you say I argue for the sake of it




Where was i arguing?
I was simply posting a comment.

You simply make your own arguments dickos.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: idler on May 10, 2017, 09:07:38 am
10K a week !!!!!!!! I didn't know that ,move on. If he was on 2.5K that would be about right
He was a shelf stacker at the co-op in Idle before turning professional so come a long way. £4k a week at City seemed OTT but obviously the blades with a bigger budget speculated on him to get them over the line.
I can't see him featuring much now they are up.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 10, 2017, 09:26:56 am
Probably right idler, a bit like when Sharp went to Southampton.
He played a big part in their run in but then couldnt get a game in the PL on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 11, 2017, 06:28:41 am
Marquis for example,
Mandeville for example
Williams best spell for us was also under Ferguson by a country mile
😂😂
And you say I argue for the sake of it




Where was i arguing?
I was simply posting a comment.

You simply make your own arguments dickos.


Look at fergies record for developing and improving strikers. Then you'll realise how silly your pedantic comment on Williams was.

It's fine to not like fergie, but to keep going on and on trying to justify why you don't like him is embarrassing
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 11, 2017, 08:27:27 am
10K a week !!!!!!!! I didn't know that ,move on. If he was on 2.5K that would be about right
He was a shelf stacker at the co-op in Idle before turning professional so come a long way. £4k a week at City seemed OTT but obviously the blades with a bigger budget speculated on him to get them over the line.
I can't see him featuring much now they are up.

Must have been handy for filling those higher shelves. Big loss to Co-op.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 11, 2017, 09:00:31 am
Marquis for example,
Mandeville for example
Williams best spell for us was also under Ferguson by a country mile
😂😂
And you say I argue for the sake of it




Where was i arguing?
I was simply posting a comment.

You simply make your own arguments dickos.


Look at fergies record for developing and improving strikers. Then you'll realise how silly your pedantic comment on Williams was.

It's fine to not like fergie, but to keep going on and on trying to justify why you don't like him is embarrassing




Almost as embarrassing as your argument that we didnt have a bad end of season run last season.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Not Now Kato on May 11, 2017, 11:41:22 am
Marquis for example,
Mandeville for example
Williams best spell for us was also under Ferguson by a country mile
😂😂
And you say I argue for the sake of it




Where was i arguing?
I was simply posting a comment.

You simply make your own arguments dickos.


Look at fergies record for developing and improving strikers. Then you'll realise how silly your pedantic comment on Williams was.

It's fine to not like fergie, but to keep going on and on trying to justify why you don't like him is embarrassing




Almost as embarrassing as your argument that we didnt have a bad end of season run last season.

I suppose it all depends on what you mean by 'End of Season'
 
Let's take as an example the last 5 games of each season as a (not unreasonable?), starting point....
 
Last Season = Won, Drawn, Won, Lost, Drawn.  = 8 Points from a possible 15
 
This Season = Drawn, Lost, Lost, Lost, Lost       = 1 Point from a possible 15
 
If you then compare those results with the previous 9 results in each season
 
Last Season = Lost, Lost, Lost, Lost, Lost, Lost, Lost, Drawn, Lost  = 1 Point from a possible 27

This Season = Drawn, Won, Drawn, Won, Won, Won, Lost, Won, Won = 20 Points out of a possible 27

It would appear, from the above, that last seasons End of Season results were good compared to the previous 9 results in that season whilst this seasons End Of Season results weren't actually bad, they were simply abysmal compared with the previous 9 results.
 
Whilst I'm absolutely delighted we're promoted I'm equally despondent that it is only in third place given the position we were in before those last five games.
 

Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 11, 2017, 02:30:19 pm
Kato, the last sentence of your post is exactly what i was trying to get across before my detractor began to get on my case.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 11, 2017, 04:41:19 pm
Exactly kato, that's all I've been trying to explain to mr hound.
The end of last season was was good, it was the middle that cost us.
But that doesn't fit with his argument that fergie bottled it at the end of both seasons.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Herman Hessian on May 11, 2017, 05:09:04 pm
The end of last season was was good, it was the middle that cost us.

just a bit curious how you come to that conclusion, not trying to stir the pot (too much)

first sixteen games: three wins - five draws  =  14 points

next fifteen games: six wins - four draws  =  22 points

last fifteen games: two wins - four draws  =  10 points

try a different split:

first twelve games: two wins - five draws  =  11 points

next twelve games: six wins - two draws  =  20 points

next eleven games: one win - three draws  =  6 points

next eleven games: two wins - three draws  =  9 points

another:

first ten games: one win - five draws  =  8 points

next nine games: five wins  =  15 points

next nine games: three wins - four draws  =  13 points

next nine games: one draw  =  1 point

last nine games: two wins - three draws  =  9 points

averaging a point a game (or less) as in all of those illustrations cannot be considered good - it'll leave you with 46 points over the full season, and going down - there are only four instances in the last twenty years where a team has survived in league one on 46 points...


Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 11, 2017, 05:45:08 pm
We were dog shit in the second half of last season. That is the only stat we need to consider.

Dog. Shit.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: goalkick on May 11, 2017, 05:58:00 pm
Credit due to Dickos has a heart of gold with regards to the rovers.never says a bad thing :scarf: maybe could be said he has many rose tinted spectacles.everyone to his own opinion.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 11, 2017, 10:26:32 pm
We were dog shit in the second half of last season. That is the only stat we need to consider.

Dog. Shit.




Maybe Mr Dickos will come back and put you right on this Chris.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 11, 2017, 10:40:22 pm
The end of last season was was good, it was the middle that cost us.

just a bit curious how you come to that conclusion, not trying to stir the pot (too much)

first sixteen games: three wins - five draws  =  14 points

next fifteen games: six wins - four draws  =  22 points

last fifteen games: two wins - four draws  =  10 points

try a different split:

first twelve games: two wins - five draws  =  11 points

next twelve games: six wins - two draws  =  20 points

next eleven games: one win - three draws  =  6 points

next eleven games: two wins - three draws  =  9 points

another:

first ten games: one win - five draws  =  8 points

next nine games: five wins  =  15 points

next nine games: three wins - four draws  =  13 points

next nine games: one draw  =  1 point

last nine games: two wins - three draws  =  9 points

averaging a point a game (or less) as in all of those illustrations cannot be considered good - it'll leave you with 46 points over the full season, and going down - there are only four instances in the last twenty years where a team has survived in league one on 46 points...




Kinda proves that whatever spin is put on this, our end of season was pretty poor.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 11, 2017, 10:46:18 pm
We were dog shit in the second half of last season. That is the only stat we need to consider.

Dog. Shit.




Maybe Mr Dickos will come back and put you right on this Chris.

I think you may be a bit obsessed
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: drfchound on May 12, 2017, 07:51:06 am
Not at all, but still surprised that you havent had a go at his post, or is it just mine you like to do that with?
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: ballysbackin on May 12, 2017, 11:08:34 am
Today Fergie showing intent. Rovers to play friendly against Derby County on 18th July at KM.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: dickos1 on May 12, 2017, 05:00:49 pm
Not at all, but still surprised that you havent had a go at his post, or is it just mine you like to do that with?

I've had many a discussion with him before,
Just don't think I'm that bothered anymore.
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 12, 2017, 05:40:41 pm
Today Fergie showing intent. Rovers to play friendly against Derby County on 18th July at KM.

How does that show intent?
Title: Re: Fergie today
Post by: Herman Hessian on May 12, 2017, 06:59:32 pm
Today Fergie showing intent. Rovers to play friendly against Derby County on 18th July at KM.

How does that show intent?

welll - it shows an intent to play a pre-season game against a half-strength championship side - not sure about much else...