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The news today that whats left of the members would back Yvette Cooper to replace Starmer when they lose Batley on Friday according to a poll, an MP who is almost certainly being ousted from her position in Pontefract at the next election. Stunning.
Following a few questions, maybe in humour it's sometimes hard to spot, and taking it back to a more relevant thread ............... is there problem having educated people with good jobs in the labour party, if so what is the problem? How will the labour party survive if you had to have worked darn pit and have a northern accent just to get elected as part of the labour party. Shouldn't there be a celebration of the differences rather than exclusion. Are there any qualifications required to support or enable the tory party? It's fairly obvious to most that the tory party and it's club magazines are happy to stoke the fires of xenophobia and difference. Look at the party faithful around here, they are only too happy to disrupt genuine conversation rather than engage.
Quote from: SydneyRover on July 01, 2021, 02:59:18 amFollowing a few questions, maybe in humour it's sometimes hard to spot, and taking it back to a more relevant thread ............... is there problem having educated people with good jobs in the labour party, if so what is the problem? How will the labour party survive if you had to have worked darn pit and have a northern accent just to get elected as part of the labour party. Shouldn't there be a celebration of the differences rather than exclusion. Are there any qualifications required to support or enable the tory party? It's fairly obvious to most that the tory party and it's club magazines are happy to stoke the fires of xenophobia and difference. Look at the party faithful around here, they are only too happy to disrupt genuine conversation rather than engage.Depends how you judge educated doesn't it ?Life experience .Common sense .Knowledge .Engaging .Thinking outside the box .Many things contribute to intelligence and a university degree isn't necessarily one of them in politics .
Quote from: tyke1962 on July 01, 2021, 06:32:21 amQuote from: SydneyRover on July 01, 2021, 02:59:18 amFollowing a few questions, maybe in humour it's sometimes hard to spot, and taking it back to a more relevant thread ............... is there problem having educated people with good jobs in the labour party, if so what is the problem? How will the labour party survive if you had to have worked darn pit and have a northern accent just to get elected as part of the labour party. Shouldn't there be a celebration of the differences rather than exclusion. Are there any qualifications required to support or enable the tory party? It's fairly obvious to most that the tory party and it's club magazines are happy to stoke the fires of xenophobia and difference. Look at the party faithful around here, they are only too happy to disrupt genuine conversation rather than engage.Depends how you judge educated doesn't it ?Life experience .Common sense .Knowledge .Engaging .Thinking outside the box .Many things contribute to intelligence and a university degree isn't necessarily one of them in politics .Nothing inside or outside the box with those thoughts Tyke, what I'm saying is all these things should be included not excluded, educated or not it shouldn't matter, but certainly shouldn't be seen as detrimental if you are, which is the feeling one gets if you read some of the posts.
TykeBizarre post on the day of a by-election in which Labour are putting up a local working class candidate.There's the other thing that you keep on forgetting. These Red Wall seats that voted for Leave. Remind me in how many of them the majority of LABOUR supporters voted Leave?Here's a clue from an enormous survey that the British Electoral College undertook in 2019."In Labour held sets with a Leave majority the figures (of what Labour voters backed) are...: 64% remain and 25% leave. "I keep telling you this and you keep on not getting it. You, as a Leave supporting ex-Labour supporter are in a tiny minority of all Labour voters. You are asking Labour to pander to you. They did in Spring 2019, and they ended up at 18% in the polls. I don't mean this personally, honestly, because I want people on the Left to unite, but in simple terms, your demands are not important enough. I wish you would realise that and support a party that might get you some of what you want, instead of you being part of the reason why you will get zero of what you want.
So is there any common ground that can be made between the centrists and the left in the Labour Party?If so, who would be the best bet for leader, in the event of a leadership contest?Thoughts anyone?
Tyke.What exactly DO you want? You are never ever going to get a Labour party that gives you exactly what you want. Neither am I. Why are so vitriolicly against any form of compromise with people who are mostly on your side?
Result now tipped to be Labour by around 300
Quote from: Donnywolf on July 02, 2021, 05:08:38 amResult now tipped to be Labour by around 300Which means extra time (a recount)?