No Brexit Extension

[Filo]

So, we have deal!

[Campsall rover]

Hallelujah. Some good news at last.

Boris always had this sorted really didn’t he? 

[Glyn_Wigley]

Starmer says Labour will support it, but only because the only other (ie No Deal) alternative is worse than this.

So any possible ERG rebellion trying to force No Deal is dead in the water.

[drfchound]

I kept reading that any deal is better than no deal.
Why would Starmer think anything else.

[selby]

Poll on talk Radio, is Boris Johnson the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Poll on talk Radio, is Boris Johnson the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill?

Who gives a shit?

[albie]

Well, here is what we have, versus what we had;
https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1342138087288283136/photo/1

More to come, as the detail arrives.

[drfchound]

Mmmmm, well is that what the Brexiteers voted for?

[tyke1962]

Poll on talk Radio, is Boris Johnson the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill?

Churchill was a great war leader of a coalition and was binned by the electorate at the first opportunity in 1945 when his war leader status ended .

Clearly the electorate who are judge and jury thought otherwise on his Tory PM credentials .

Perhaps Talk Radio likes to rewrite history .

[Glyn_Wigley]

Mmmmm, well is that what the Brexiteers voted for?

Apparently they knew exactly what they voted for so stop quibbling!

[wilts rover]

Poll on talk Radio, is Boris Johnson the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill?

Would Churchill have said he had negotiated a deal with 'no non-tarrif barriers' when his own government website lists those that are coming in on 1st January?

I always maintain that Churchill's greatest achievement was to unite the country behind him on taking over. Johnson has done the opposite and divided it for a generation - possibly literally if the Scots get their way and there is an Irish border poll.

But all that is for another day. He did the right thing and agreed a deal. The country will be better for it.

[drfchound]

Mmmmm, well is that what the Brexiteers voted for?

Apparently they knew exactly what they voted for so stop quibbling!

Apparently being the key word there of course.

[belton rover]

Poll on talk Radio, is Boris Johnson the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill?

Would Churchill have said he had negotiated a deal with 'no non-tarrif barriers' when his own government website lists those that are coming in on 1st January?

I always maintain that Churchill's greatest achievement was to unite the country behind him on taking over. Johnson has done the opposite and divided it for a generation - possibly literally if the Scots get their way and there is an Irish border poll.

But all that is for another day. He did the right thing and agreed a deal. The country will be better for it.

The country was divided when Johnson took over.

It still is.

[belton rover]

Poll on talk Radio, is Boris Johnson the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill?

Churchill was a great war leader of a coalition and was binned by the electorate at the first opportunity in 1945 when his war leader status ended .

Clearly the electorate who are judge and jury thought otherwise on his Tory PM credentials .

Perhaps Talk Radio likes to rewrite history .

Tyke. ‘Greatest leader’ has to be put into context, doesn’t it?
He was rejected after the war because he was, quite probably, a terrible peace time PM. I remember watching a documentary about him where he addressed the nation and talked about ‘those of you in your cottages’. As if that’s what he thought life was like for the vast majority of the country - idyllic. Brilliant War PM though which is why he’s seen as the greatest.

Still, he came back again a few years later during peacetime.

The Talk Radio poll is incomparably ridiculous.

[selby]

  Glyn its Christmas no need to be glum mate, it should be the first night's good sleep you have had for nearly five years.
  Get around the house with the Ho Ho Ho give the Mrs a treat she has had to bear you being a sour puss since 2016.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Who's glum? I find you very entertaining in your inimitable buffoonish way.

[SydneyRover]

Taking back control, ink not dry and here's the first of many things the UK will have to comply with to trade with the EU.

''There will be mutual recognition of trusted trader programmes. This means UK producers will have to comply with both UK and EU standards''

''https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/24/from-tariffs-to-visas-heres-whats-in-the-brexit-deal''

[selby]

  It's done Syd, people like yourself were always going to moan about any agreement, now it is up to us to nibble away at the rules draw away from them as much as possible and flourish as our own country.
   I  now am particular what I purchase, all the presents I have bought are British made, and sourced locally even down to a new drill bit set and a new fridge freezer.
    Every prediction about us falling flat on our face has been proved  bunkum the attack on the financial services was their big hope until they realised they would be at the behest of New York and Singapore  who would be far less helpful for their borrowing requirements, and boy are they borrowing, and one of their biggest sponsors(us) away riding in the sunset.
   Their big problem now is keeping such a diverse religious, economic, and wealth creating dream together with the wealthy northern states subsidising the poor Mediterranean countries and the new Eastern European countries with their religious and ethnic differences to the more cosmopolitan western countries together, it will not work and eventually fall apart.
  The Mediterranean countries dependant on tourism already face disaster for a second year and probably next year as  well with air fares, insurance, and the cost of still being required to be tested before travel making cheap air travel a thing of the past, and the motor industry struggling with change to Electric and unemployment having an effect on their custom throughout the world doing Germany no good.
  Paint the picture how you want buddy, they are not in a good place the worlds biggest ever ponzi scheme is in big trouble. 

[SydneyRover]

I wish you a happy holliday stick to football as every post you make about politics is sneery and trite and vert trotsky, that you could wish disaster on other countries to make Britain look better is no better than johnson's answer.

[SydneyRover]

Britain & Oz for that matter could be like this selby if everyone paid their fair share of taxes.

Why Finland is a great place to live and work
A Nordic welfare state with a variety of services.
A top-ranking society in terms of freedom and equality.
A balance for work, family and friends.
Equal and low-hierarchy working culture.
High-quality healthcare and social security.
Excellent and affordable schooling and daycare.
Cost of living overview.

Fin­land ranks at the top for com­bin­ing work and family:
2nd fairest country for children (Unicef, 2016)
2nd best country to be a mother (Unicef, 2016)
1st for good working hours (European Company Survey). The eight-hour workday leaves plenty of time for family, friends and hobbies.
Helsinki is the best city for work-life balance (Kisi, The 2019 Work-Life Balance Index).

https://www.helsinki.fi/en/university/careers-at-the-university-of-helsinki/why-finland-is-a-great-place-to-live-and-work

[tyke1962]

Britain & Oz for that matter could be like this selby if everyone paid their fair share of taxes.

Why Finland is a great place to live and work
A Nordic welfare state with a variety of services.
A top-ranking society in terms of freedom and equality.
A balance for work, family and friends.
Equal and low-hierarchy working culture.
High-quality healthcare and social security.
Excellent and affordable schooling and daycare.
Cost of living overview.

Fin­land ranks at the top for com­bin­ing work and family:
2nd fairest country for children (Unicef, 2016)
2nd best country to be a mother (Unicef, 2016)
1st for good working hours (European Company Survey). The eight-hour workday leaves plenty of time for family, friends and hobbies.
Helsinki is the best city for work-life balance (Kisi, The 2019 Work-Life Balance Index).

https://www.helsinki.fi/en/university/careers-at-the-university-of-helsinki/why-finland-is-a-great-place-to-live-and-work

Interestingly the Finish government own one third of Finland's wealth and 90% of workers are members of a trade union .

[Glyn_Wigley]

And they're in the EU.

[EasyforDennis]

And they're in the EU.

But have they got their own sovereignty and blue passports? 

[selby]

  Everyone wants to pile into Finland then, although they have been tipped as one of the countries that could follow our lead out of the Ponzi scheme.
  I don't think I was sneering at all Syd, more like you realise the same things but don't accept them.

[drfchound]

Selby, I’m not even sure why our Brexit means so much to someone in Australia.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Two days ago, the Govt agreed the trade deal with the EU.

It comes into effect in 5 days.

They still haven't published it to let us see what we are signing up to...

[Filo]

Two days ago, the Govt agreed the trade deal with the EU.

It comes into effect in 5 days.

They still haven't published it to let us see what we are signing up to...

Thats because the deal will be worse than the deal May had

[BillyStubbsTears]

Ok I'm a bit off the pace. It was published this morning. Plenty of time for folk to get ready for the biggest change to a trading arrangement in human history.

[tyke1962]

Two days ago, the Govt agreed the trade deal with the EU.

It comes into effect in 5 days.

They still haven't published it to let us see what we are signing up to...

Apart from the one they published on Gov.UK on Christmas Eve


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/agreements-reached-between-the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland-and-the-european-union

[BillyStubbsTears]

Tyke. No. They didn't. That was published this morning, as I said above.