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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on March 12, 2024, 11:15:16 am
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The next one up after the Colchester game was postponed we play a team that ran Mansfield very close last Saturday and play Accrington tonight in a home game double header with our game on Saturday they will want to and probably expect to pick points up.
A team that have a good record of scoring goals at home 35 in number before the Accrington game tonight but also let their fair share of goals in their own net especially away from home, so must look to play attractive football, a type of game that could suit our style.
Our away record of only three wins in eighteen games could do with improvement, although our display at Bradford hopefully bodes well for better things to come with our more robust style in midfield looking to serve us better than the tepid showing at Walsall.
At least the cancelation gives our walking wounded time to recover from the Crewe game and we should be going into the game confident and more enthusiastic after our better form of late, and the visible better mood of the management team, with things looking far better than the period just before the new year, and at least now look to play the ball forward quicker and give our attackers more chance of doing something to effect the game.
According to their manager in the game at Mansfield they were all over the place and conceded after four minutes ( welcome to our world) so if repeated the start to the game could be interesting the same thing one of our recurring problems.
Swindon like ourselves and a number of other sides in the lower divisions always strike me as having more about them than kicking about in the lower reaches of the EFL, hopefully we can get a result and keep them there for a couple of more weeks.
So what do you think? we will know more about their game tomorrow and no doubt will scout the game tonight to get the latest on their form and tactics while sitting with our feet up at home.
They will not be easy opposition, and we might just benefit from the few days more rest on heavy pitches and some injuries clearing up. A long journey, are you going? and a chance for some of our southern based supporters who turn out in numbers when we are down there to see the lads play.
Lot's to discuss, and more time to look at this fixture with our game off tonight, please have your say.
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I just have awful memories of the reverse fixture and THAT refereeing performance from Ed Duckworth!!
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I just have awful memories of the reverse fixture and THAT refereeing performance from Ed Duckworth!!
We can’t get a worse ref. So that is at least some comfort.
A winnable game and one we should be going into with plenty of confidence.
They are suspect defensively. We need to get on the front foot and take the game to them. Let them worry about us.
Looking forward to going to this one as I have not been to Swindon in the last few years. Been one I have missed.
Last one was a 1-1 draw. Paolo Di Canio was manager and was like a lunatic on the touch line.
Quietly confident we will get the 3 points. If we play our A game we can beat any team in this league.
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I just have awful memories of the reverse fixture and THAT refereeing performance from Ed Duckworth!!
We can’t get a worse ref. So that is at least some comfort.
A winnable game and one we should be going into with plenty of confidence.
They are suspect defensively. We need to get on the front foot and take the game to them. Let them worry about us.
Looking forward to going to this one as I have not been to Swindon in the last few years. Been one I have missed.
Last one was a 1-1 draw. Paolo Di Canio was manager and was like a lunatic on the touch line.
Quietly confident we will get the 3 points. If we play our A game we can beat any team in this league.
…and you should have heard him on local radio; rather like Trump they couldn’t shut him up!
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I think we've a better chance now tonight's game is off, the Crewe game was a massive effort from the lads, to ask em to go again tonight & then Saturday again I think we might have struggled.
Let's hope we start well, & on the front foot, can't see why we can't bring the points home if so.
See you there, lads & lasses
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I just have awful memories of the reverse fixture and THAT refereeing performance from Ed Duckworth!!
We can’t get a worse ref. So that is at least some comfort.
A winnable game and one we should be going into with plenty of confidence.
They are suspect defensively. We need to get on the front foot and take the game to them. Let them worry about us.
Looking forward to going to this one as I have not been to Swindon in the last few years. Been one I have missed.
Last one was a 1-1 draw. Paolo Di Canio was manager and was like a lunatic on the touch line.
Quietly confident we will get the 3 points. If we play our A game we can beat any team in this league.
…and you should have heard him on local radio; rather like Trump they couldn’t shut him up!
I did hear that interview. Talk about a rant. The guy is crazy. Quite mad.
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It will be interesting to see how the teams just above us perform this evening.
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Swindon have won one in their last 8 (before tonight) and only 2 (in 12) this calendar year.
They are very much in the opposite vein of form to us and heading the wrong way down the table.
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The are fairly tight at home. Only lost 5 times at home in the league all season and these have been against good sides in Stockport, Wrexham, Barrow, Gillingham and MK Dons.
They do score a lot. Only really Wrexham and Notts County have scored more league goals at home.
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The are fairly tight at home. Only lost 5 times at home in the league all season and these have been against good sides in Stockport, Wrexham, Barrow, Gillingham and MK Dons.
They do score a lot. Only really Wrexham and Notts County have scored more league goals at home.
A lot of their goals came in the first half of the season. Last 10 games on the form table we have scored more.
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Lost 1-2
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It will be interesting to see how the teams just above us perform this evening.
Why?
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It will be interesting to see how the teams just above us perform this evening.
Why?
Why not? We want to finish above them don’t we?
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That 1-1 draw was a robbery, we didn't have a shot at goal and their defender put a cross into the box in the net.
Our keeper that day who get's pelters on here had a blinder and DiCanio was the best entertainment of the day ranting and gesticulating up and down the touch line egged on by a bunch of our supporters at the front of the stand who gave him rock all, a great day out, topped off by the fact their forwards missed a load of chances, which just encouraged DiCanio to go ballistic.
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Any weather related risks to this game? It keeps bloody raining
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Anyone got any parking tips?
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Any weather related risks to this game? It keeps bloody raining
Shouldn't be a problem. We had a couple of sharp showers today but it's been mostly dry this week and nothing much forecast for tomorrow.
Bring a coat though.
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Anyone got any parking tips?
Check your mirrors, don’t hit anyone and park between the lines.
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Lovely morning here in Wiltshire, clear blue skies although it is forecast to cloud over this afternoon.
For anyone driving the road from the M4 - J16 to Swindon Town Centre is closed due to a burst water main. So probably best to avoid this junction and use J15 - A419 and A259 instead.
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Anyone got any parking tips?
I'm gonna try the school.
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/tickets/travelling-away-fans-information/
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Lovely morning here in Wiltshire, clear blue skies although it is forecast to cloud over this afternoon.
For anyone driving the road from the M4 - J16 to Swindon Town Centre is closed due to a burst water main. So probably best to avoid this junction and use J15 - A419 and A259 instead.
Met office have changed it to 80% rain by kick off time Wilts.
Going to take my coat. ;)
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Lovely morning here in Wiltshire, clear blue skies although it is forecast to cloud over this afternoon.
For anyone driving the road from the M4 - J16 to Swindon Town Centre is closed due to a burst water main. So probably best to avoid this junction and use J15 - A419 and A259 instead.
Met office have changed it to 80% rain by kick off time Wilts.
Going to take my coat. ;)
Good advice Campsall. I am going to take my washing in before I leave.
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I hope big Tom and Woods can keep it tight at the back and snuff out any threat from Charlie Austin if he's playing. Another one of those nightmare names that always seem to pop up now and again!! COYR!!
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Why is ifollow advertising next week's game v fgr as video it is a 3oclock k.o.?
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Why is ifollow advertising next week's game v fgr as video it is a 3oclock k.o.?
International weekend so screening permitted.
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iFollow commentary today is hilarious. Hoden doing his best to commentate while a Swindon fan near him is going absolutely spare, constant stream of swearing, picking fight with fellow Swindon fan. Truly comedic.
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Biamou. Enough said.
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Good win that, especially again given the injuries to a number of players. Important for me that we hung on to it, that's been a big weakness for us away.
Better players make a difference, more clinical.
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Think Biamou needs a contract next season if he can prove he can do this week in week out, all the clubs in this league seem to have that old head that just knows what to do and how to win a ‘foul’
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Just looking at the table. Unbelievable to think that if rovers win next game and notts county lose we go above them . Their fall has been spectacular .
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Just looking at the table. Unbelievable to think that if rovers win next game and notts county lose we go above them . Their fall has been spectacular .
Absolutely played off the park by them in both games. Incredible their fall
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Just looking at the table. Unbelievable to think that if rovers win next game and notts county lose we go above them . Their fall has been spectacular .
F.F.S. TO REPEAT FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME I warned you all about this in early December
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How long is it since we had a player score so many goals, in so few appearances, as in Adelakun. What is it six in eleven appearances? Has he got three or four in succession?
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We hung in well in that second half but a 46-minute goal really changed the momentum and adrenaline flows in favour of Swindon .We missed an experienced head in midfield today in that second half as too many times we lost possession there through weak challenges and attempts to dribble our way through when strong clearance was needed.But we held on and truly earned those three away points .Now second in form table of last six and fifth in last ten games !
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Molly was not up to his usual standard today and even I would have scored that one.
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Great win today. Especially being able to do this without Craig, Westbrooke or Close in midfield, and Ironside up front.
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Feared the worse when I saw that midfield. Not one of them can control a game. The clinical goals sorted us out. Job done and likely safe for sure now
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Holding on for so long after they pulled one back is a great sign. Picking up points away from home on a regular basis now.
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Great win. If we can get Maxime, Hacks, and TLT for next season, it would make a big statement about our promotion ambitions.
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Coming, int it?
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Really good win, battling 2nd half performance, thought Tom Anderson was outstanding.
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Anderson has been outstanding over the last eight or so games.
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Feared the worse when I saw that midfield. Not one of them can control a game. The clinical goals sorted us out. Job done and likely safe for sure now
are we really looking over our shoulder anymore?
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Great win. If we can get Maxime, Hacks, and TLT for next season, it would make a big statement about our promotion ambitions.
I think TLT is a possibility, he's 21, one of the youngest keepers in the EFL, so would love the chance to be a permanent no.1 , max is a possibility, 33yrs old with a major injury recently, so maybe higher league suiters may be scarce,? Haks is the worry, money is key here, if we want promotion, shell out on quality!!!!
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Just looking at the table. Unbelievable to think that if rovers win next game and notts county lose we go above them . Their fall has been spectacular .
Notts County have a game at Bradford on Tuesday before we play again
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Feared the worse when I saw that midfield. Not one of them can control a game. The clinical goals sorted us out. Job done and likely safe for sure now
are we really looking over our shoulder anymore?
If we were, today’s results have panned out well for us.
Grimsby and Colchester both drawing is fine, and Sutton beating FGR isn’t too bad at all, certainly better than the other way round.
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How was Broadbent? I saw he got an assist. I’ve seen a player in there when he has played and has confidence
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How was Broadbent? I saw he got an assist. I’ve seen a player in there when he has played and has confidence
I just don’t see anything in Broadbent at all. Never have. BUT I would the lad to prove me wrong and come good.
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I think Broadbent was ok today and the assist he provided was a forceful header and a critical and clever piece of play .He is is only just turned 21 and I think GM believes in him so hope the fans give him support.
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Good to hear from McCann that Westbrooke was missing due to illness rather than injury.
Once again, he was bigging up Broadbent saying he's going to be a good player. He must see something in him we don't and I can't wait to see the improvement.
I notice Adelakun stonewalling questions about his future in his prematch interview, saying he leaves all that stuff to his representatives. I wouldn't expect him to say much else but I get the impression he sees himself higher than League Two next season.
Great 3 points. Let's see where this takes us. With the fixtures ahead beyond FGR, we have games against all those still in the hunt for the play offs. It's up to us to keep sewing the seeds of doubt in their minds. We have nowt to lose.
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It’s taken three years but at long last I think the team has an identity. McCann has uncovered a successful formula.
The down side is that we’re going to lose a lot of players in the summer. Our wage bill is way too high at the moment so there’s going to be quite a bit of churn.
We have to trust that a lot of hard work is going in to identifying and landing some decent targets in the summer.
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I'm sure McCann will be driving the team on until the end of the season. He'll be demanding high standards, not only for his standing as a manager but keeping that upward momentum to stand any chance of signing good players Inc Adelakun, Biamou, TLT who are above this standard but, where we want to be.
Folk will say TB must back McCann but in addition we must back both of them by buying those season tickets to show we can support League One wages.
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Let’s not forget it isn’t just about how much we choose to offer these players, if they or their agents want to be elsewhere - perhaps in a higher division - there’s nowt we can do.. I’ve said it before, if we can’t get these names players, we want similar quality from others. We can’t just judge our “ambition” on whether or not we sign specific individuals..
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ITB try this
Well
Done
Rovers
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Every game we have played since the Bradford EFL cup game shows how much we miss Close, more like a sore thumb.
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Every game we have played since the Bradford EFL cup game shows how much we miss Close, more like a sore thumb.
I always though close would be one of the first names on the team sheet at this level when fit however since his injury we have gone on to only 1 defeat in 9 and our best run of form in years. Hardly missing him at all based of results which is what it’s all about
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Every game we have played since the Bradford EFL cup game shows how much we miss Close, more like a sore thumb.
Agreed not missed him at all.
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Every game we have played since the Bradford EFL cup game shows how much we miss Close, more like a sore thumb.
Could have been put a little more graciously.
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Adding close to Bailey and craig would improve the midfield.
Close has been playing there with biggins, Broadbent and Rowe this season.
Close and westbrooke were very good together
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Dickos you can have all the stats you want, and enjoy the easy on the eye bits, but when you have a player who is a complete liability when the other side has the ball, doesn't stop players playing well against us, and lets them play balls and run past him, you are therefore going to have problems.
In days gone by they used to call it being nesh, and if you happened to be playing in front of defenders getting run ragged with two men coming at them all the time you soon got to know about it.
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If we want to get into the league above, we need players capable of playing in the league above. Adelakun is one who is capable of that. He had lost his confidence when he joined us in my opinion, a lot of factors will come into whether he signs for us. In the unlikely chance that we somehow sneaked into the play offs and were promoted this season, then we would have a great chance.
As it is, it is verging on the ridiculous to think we can make it this season, but isn’t impossible. Because of his scoring run and him getting the chance to play regularly, his position is very strong on the negotiating side. Much more than when he first signed on loan. I would like to think he remembers that our club gave him an opportunity.
When it all comes down to it, what is right for him is what will be the decider. Players won’t stick around a club if they don’t see the club being ambitious. We went into this season full of optimism and it was dashed very early on. Now when there is no pressure on, our players have put a run together. Are they capable of going into a game needing a result? Another great result today.
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I thought the first goal came from a dalliance in their defence but Biamou took it so well when the ball came his way. He has to be worth a contract. Had to smile when he appeared to be moaning to the ref about the holding & fouling he was being subjected to without being given a free kick. Welcome to Ironside’s world!
Adelukan was in a great position in the box just after that goal but chose an attempt to curl one into the top corner from a difficult angle when he had options. I’m not knocking him here, we’ve seen him score ‘outrageous goals’ in his short time with us but, playing devils advocate is he now playing for the team or for himself? He also tried (in my opinion) to emulate his goal straight from a corner against Crewe when he chose to attempt a ‘curling shot’ from a corner which ended up going behind the goal.
Just saying.
His goal when he receives the ball inside the box & drops a shoulder to put a defender off balance & then slots it into the corner was excellent.
He gave the ball away at crucial moments in the second half when we needed to look after the ball after Swindon’s goal straight into the second half. Showboat with flicks & the like when you’re in the final third, not in your own third when the opposition have their tails up.
Just saying.
Would I want us to sign him up, of course I would.
Will he sign, I don’t know & the reason I don’t know is because some of the things he did or didn’t do today makes me wonder where he thinks his future lies & whether or not that ‘thinking’ manifests itself on the pitch.
Just saying.
We didn’t look cohesive in midfield. Broadbent seemed a passenger for much of the game but he is very young at twenty one to be able to dominate games in that area. I trust in GM that there is a good player ‘in there’. He therefore needs managing & he’s with the right management team to bring that player ‘out’.
Apart from switching off for their early goal in the second half the back four were solid, very solid.
Moly had a mare, nuff said.
If Haks won’t sign, break the bank for Lo-Titalu. He’s head & shoulders above what we have.
The substitutes worked for us (Billy Waters apart who has been disappointing. I thought his ability to chase & close down might serve us well but his first touch & positional play has left much to be desired) we matched their introduction of forward players well with Olowu & Tommy coming on & both performing well in their given positions.
But THE biggest praise goes to Grant McCaan. What an inspired sighning!
‘Apart from that & a fire in my flat, it’s been a very nice day’.
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Dickos you can have all the stats you want, and enjoy the easy on the eye bits, but when you have a player who is a complete liability when the other side has the ball, doesn't stop players playing well against us, and lets them play balls and run past him, you are therefore going to have problems.
In days gone by they used to call it being nesh, and if you happened to be playing in front of defenders getting run ragged with two men coming at them all the time you soon got to know about it.
Is “Nesh” no longer in use then? What a shame!
The problem with Close is that he avoids contact, probably out of necessity, because (probably because of a history of injuries) he doesn’t seem physically resilient enough to withstand tackling or even being tackled. Just before he got his latest injury, I followed his movement around the pitch and he seemed to actually position himself to avoid contact. So you can sympathise, but you cannot afford to accommodate such a player, especially in League 2.
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What's Ben Close ever done for us in his time at the club , really?! Scored a couple of decent goals earlier in the season but other than that nothing springs to my mind
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Sorry Ben Close but never rated you, modern Ray Wilkings rarely passes forwards. Occasionally pulls something out the bag but for this division is to lightweight and wont get stuck in when needed.
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What's Ben Close ever done for us in his time at the club , really?! Scored a couple of decent goals earlier in the season but other than that nothing springs to my mind
I think Ben Close would be a good player with Craig & Bailey both in midfield with him.
He has an eye for a pass and in the current set up we have I do think he would create chances for Molly, Adalukan & Ironside/Biamou
He isn’t going to be effective if he has lots of chasing and tackling to do. That’s not his game.
In this league he is a luxury player also league 1 he is. You need the right players with him and as it happens we have right now and he is injured.
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Westbrooks got more to offer than Close , freeing up his wages gives us scope to get better players , Adelakun for example
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Westbrooks got more to offer than Close , freeing up his wages gives us scope to get better players , Adelakun for example
Not saying we should keep him.
In fact with his injury record I would not in fact offer a new contract. As you say he is one of our top 3/4 earners so it would free up a huge chunk of money if all of Close, Rowe and Taylor were released.
None of those 3 have given anything like enough on the pitch in the last 2 to 3 seasons or even been on the pitch to warrant keeping.
Tommy always gives 100% when he has played this season but he is a shadow of the player he was in back in 2018/19
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Broadbent was good yesterday, ; I'm pretty sure got both assists? If you can't see what McCann does after yesterday's performance then you probably never will, definite potential imo, needs to do that more consistently now.
Bailey was fantastic in there yesterday btw, motm for me.
Moly missed that sitter to lower all our blood pressures but otherwise I thought he was decent, certainly didn't have a mare, far more effective than Hurst who replaced him.
Westbrooke over Close for me.
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Agree with all of that although Tom Anderson pushed Bailey for MOTM
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Swindon fans are struggling a bit this morning!:
“On a side note I think the Doncaster players must be made of straw, never seen so many players rolling around on the floor after a tackle.”
“Yeah, could hear the associated girly screeching up in the DRS from the big tough Yorkshiremen.”
(Page 17 from their forum:
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59894.240)
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I thought Tommy did a great job when he came on- other than Bailey I thought we were pretty lightweight in midfield and attack in the second half and Tommy really put himself about. It wasn’t glamorous but it was an important contribution to the win imo.
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Great substitution bringing Tommy on, just what we needed at the time introduced a bit more drive.
Billy seems an infectious character but other than chasing I’m not sure he has added to the team, passing seems poor. Probably needs games though as he was frozen out at Wrexham
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Swindon fans are struggling a bit this morning!:
“On a side note I think the Doncaster players must be made of straw, never seen so many players rolling around on the floor after a tackle.”
“Yeah, could hear the associated girly screeching up in the DRS from the big tough Yorkshiremen.”
(Page 17 from their forum:
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59894.240)
What a load of tripe.
How many fouls should we have had that were not given?
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Inconsistent refereeing again with kicking the ball away yesterday
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Today’s DFP headline “McCann: We’d have lost Swindon game not long ago”
We certainly would because Lo Tutala made 2 second half saves that Jones would have stood and watched! They would be added to the long list of “Jones had no chance” goals.
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Today’s DFP headline “McCann: We’d have lost Swindon game not long ago”
We certainly would because Lo Tutala made 2 second half saves that Jones would have stood and watched! They would be added to the long list of “Jones had no chance” goals.
Harsh but probably true. ;)
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Very harsh. Jones has made some great saves when he has played for us
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We know that TLT is a very good keeper, but to hear some on here, Jones is the worst keeper we've ever had.
Bloody ridiculous comments.
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We know that TLT is a very good keeper, but to hear some on here, Jones is the worst keeper we've ever had.
Bloody ridiculous comments.
To be honest he is one of the worst i have seen at Rovers SS
Hate saying it with him being a local lad but seriously we haven’t had many who were not better than him in the last 49 years.
Yes he has made some great saves but he is very weak for a FL keeper on a few key aspects of his game.
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Weavers neighbour wasn’t very good.
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We know that TLT is a very good keeper, but to hear some on here, Jones is the worst keeper we've ever had.
Bloody ridiculous comments.
To be honest he is one of the worst i have seen at Rovers SS
Hate saying it with him being a local lad but seriously we haven’t had many who were not better than him in the last 49 years.
Yes he has made some great saves but he is very weak for a FL keeper on a few key aspects of his game.
All about opinions, Camps, but there's plenty of names to go at. Gary Woods, who was crap even with Jones and McCombe in front of him; Etheridge, Dahlberg, Mitchell, and that keeper on loan who let the ball squirm through his hands at Salford last season; I've never seen Louis do that.
Also, you're not showing much faith in GM if you think he gave a contract to one of the worst keepers we've had in 49 years.
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We know that TLT is a very good keeper, but to hear some on here, Jones is the worst keeper we've ever had.
Bloody ridiculous comments.
To be honest he is one of the worst i have seen at Rovers SS
Hate saying it with him being a local lad but seriously we haven’t had many who were not better than him in the last 49 years.
Yes he has made some great saves but he is very weak for a FL keeper on a few key aspects of his game.
All about opinions, Camps, but there's plenty of names to go at. Gary Woods, who was crap even with Jones and McCombe in front of him; Etheridge, Dahlberg, Mitchell, and that keeper on loan who let the ball squirm through his hands at Salford last season; I've never seen Louis do that.
Also, you're not showing much faith in GM if you think he gave a contract to one of the worst keepers we've had in 49 years.
Even the best managers make bad decisions.
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We know that TLT is a very good keeper, but to hear some on here, Jones is the worst keeper we've ever had.
Bloody ridiculous comments.
To be honest he is one of the worst i have seen at Rovers SS
Hate saying it with him being a local lad but seriously we haven’t had many who were not better than him in the last 49 years.
Yes he has made some great saves but he is very weak for a FL keeper on a few key aspects of his game.
All about opinions, Camps, but there's plenty of names to go at. Gary Woods, who was crap even with Jones and McCombe in front of him; Etheridge, Dahlberg, Mitchell, and that keeper on loan who let the ball squirm through his hands at Salford last season; I've never seen Louis do that.
Also, you're not showing much faith in GM if you think he gave a contract to one of the worst keepers we've had in 49 years.
Gary Woods was better than Louis Jones imo. Dahlberg was also and you could make a case for Mitchell also before Schofield totally wrecked his confidence.
DF knocked the stuffing out of Etheridge who was considered a decent keeper at Accrington which is why he signed him.
It’s about opinions SS yours differ from mine. :)
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Etheridge had a very strong defence in front of him at Stanley which made him seem a better keeper than he was. As for DF knocking the stuffing out of him the South stand didn't do too bad a job as well
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Etheridge had a very strong defence in front of him at Stanley which made him seem a better keeper than he was. As for DF knocking the stuffing out of him the South stand didn't do too bad a job as well
You’re not wrong ravenrover, they did.
But DF had a habit of making goalkeepers scapegoats for his own tactical inadequacies
Stuckmann comes to mind immediately as another one he helped to undermine.
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That is true Campsall but I don’t think I have seen a Rovers keeper parry a shot back into the danger area and then concede as many times as he did. Concede a corner but don’t keep it in play when usually forwards are moving quicker than the defenders.
I can’t say that I was sorry to see the BFG leave.