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You never know your support on here will no doubt have been monitored them being so good at IT in Moscow you could be invited to Putin's victory march in Kiev as the UK's representative BRR. Now that would be quite something and an honour for whoever got inside and muddled your brain.
Nah, yanks will be too busy with their next wars. Taiwan? Or somewhere else they've not stirred hard enough yet.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on April 29, 2024, 01:32:45 pmNah, yanks will be too busy with their next wars. Taiwan? Or somewhere else they've not stirred hard enough yet.Not if Trump gets in, BRR. He doesn't want the US involved in wars anywhere. He believes in America first, and doesn't like NATO.
BRR, Trump's whole persona is based on America first, America great, and from time immemorial as far as countries are concerned it has always been based on the fear of the strongest military, from the Greeks to the British Empire and since 1946 The USA. Tromp will go for that and use it, The USA population will demand it, as it did over Cuba, Iraq, and world war 2. They relaxed, Europe completely took their eye off the ball, They are gearing up now, If you think they are sat on their hands be prepared to be surprised, and if Trump gets in the process will be brought forward, and he will use the language others will understand.
Yes it was a time when they would have flattened the Soviets and they knew it. And we were not the pussies the woke agenda has turned us into.
Interesting from an ex NATO soldier in Ukraine."The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says"https://www.businessinsider.com/us-forgot-how-to-fight-real-war-veteran-in-ukraine-2024-5
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 03, 2024, 06:12:11 pmInteresting from an ex NATO soldier in Ukraine."The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says"https://www.businessinsider.com/us-forgot-how-to-fight-real-war-veteran-in-ukraine-2024-5A genuine question. Do you ever find anything negative to say about Russia?
Interesting from an ex NATO soldier in Ukraine."The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says"https://www.businessinsider.com/us-forgot-how-to-fight-real-war-veteran-in-ukraine-2024-5
I am a retired normal working man. What I do think though is that any nation has the right to determine its own independence. I would rather Ukraine determine its place in the world than be dictated to by Russia.If life under the USSR was so good they would still hold sway over Bulgaria, Romania etc.
Quote from: idler on May 03, 2024, 09:26:37 pmI am a retired normal working man. What I do think though is that any nation has the right to determine its own independence. I would rather Ukraine determine its place in the world than be dictated to by Russia.If life under the USSR was so good they would still hold sway over Bulgaria, Romania etc.So you are paying for the war against Russia - fuel, food, taxes, probably not the interest rates where you may be benefitting. Maybe also benefitting from some pension investments that are connected with the war? Anyway....I'd also prefer nations weren't interfered with in their choices. Sadly Ukraine is the victim of being a pawn in the geopolitical game. The US interfered, and predictably Russia has acted.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 03, 2024, 10:21:30 pmQuote from: idler on May 03, 2024, 09:26:37 pmI am a retired normal working man. What I do think though is that any nation has the right to determine its own independence. I would rather Ukraine determine its place in the world than be dictated to by Russia.If life under the USSR was so good they would still hold sway over Bulgaria, Romania etc.So you are paying for the war against Russia - fuel, food, taxes, probably not the interest rates where you may be benefitting. Maybe also benefitting from some pension investments that are connected with the war? Anyway....I'd also prefer nations weren't interfered with in their choices. Sadly Ukraine is the victim of being a pawn in the geopolitical game. The US interfered, and predictably Russia has acted.So it is alright for Russia to intervene but no other country? What about Wagner in Africa?
All of recorded human history is a geopolitical game, so good luck putting a stop to that.Long term, we’d be more out of pocket living in a geopolitically unstable world where our enemies get to take the p*ss. (Sorry just remembered you said Russian expansionism is a conspiracy theory silly me!)Besides, this is also about standing up for what is right. Not just the money spent, which really is a drop in the ocean.If Ukraine is a pawn as you say. What are their true desires and what choices would they make if they were free of so called US-control?
Quote from: ncRover on May 03, 2024, 11:07:27 pmAll of recorded human history is a geopolitical game, so good luck putting a stop to that.Long term, we’d be more out of pocket living in a geopolitically unstable world where our enemies get to take the p*ss. (Sorry just remembered you said Russian expansionism is a conspiracy theory silly me!)Besides, this is also about standing up for what is right. Not just the money spent, which really is a drop in the ocean.If Ukraine is a pawn as you say. What are their true desires and what choices would they make if they were free of so called US-control?Exactly, the history of geoplitical gaming, big boy mafiosa, bulies, has been forever, and will be forever, but I don't condone that, I don't choose one bully as better than any other. You appear to think that is the way to go - "our enemies". ie you are identifying with your patron bully."Standing up for what is right" - sounds good.I'd guess that Ukraine would naturally make the most of playing off both sides of it's territory bordering empires. Benefitting both ways. That's how it has been, before the west pushed too hard. That wasn't in Ukraine's interest, evidently.
Quote from: idler on May 03, 2024, 09:03:54 pmQuote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 03, 2024, 06:12:11 pmInteresting from an ex NATO soldier in Ukraine."The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says"https://www.businessinsider.com/us-forgot-how-to-fight-real-war-veteran-in-ukraine-2024-5A genuine question. Do you ever find anything negative to say about Russia?I don't think you've read all I post if you can ask that. Also, you're constantly fed with negative Russian comments, part of me posting here is to challenge some of that. To be fair, in my considered opinion all parties are bad, really bad in this. The USA most definitely the worst, the UK and France a close second.So are you thinking Ukraine is benefitting from anything whatsoever? How will this end? Has it been worth the cost to you? Or maybe you're one of those who have made a mint out of all this?
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 03, 2024, 06:12:11 pmInteresting from an ex NATO soldier in Ukraine."The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says"https://www.businessinsider.com/us-forgot-how-to-fight-real-war-veteran-in-ukraine-2024-5A genuine question. Do you ever find anything negative to say about Russia?
Interesting from an ex NATO soldier in Ukraine."The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says"https://www.businessinsider.com/us-forgot-how-to-fight-real-war-veteran-in-ukraine-2024-5
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 03, 2024, 10:21:30 pmQuote from: idler on May 03, 2024, 09:26:37 pmI am a retired normal working man. What I do think though is that any nation has the right to determine its own independence. I would rather Ukraine determine its place in the world than be dictated to by Russia.If life under the USSR was so good they would still hold sway over Bulgaria, Romania etc.So you are paying for the war against Russia - fuel, food, taxes, probably not the interest rates where you may be benefitting. Maybe also benefitting from some pension investments that are connected with the war? Anyway....I'd also prefer nations weren't interfered with in their choices. Sadly Ukraine is the victim of being a pawn in the geopolitical game. The US interfered, and predictably Russia has acted.All of recorded human history is a geopolitical game, so good luck putting a stop to that.Long term, we’d be more out of pocket living in a geopolitically unstable world where our enemies get to take the p*ss. (Sorry just remembered you said Russian expansionism is a conspiracy theory silly me!)Besides, this is also about standing up for what is right. Not just the money spent, which really is a drop in the ocean.If Ukraine is a pawn as you say. What are their true desires and what choices would they make if they were free of so called US-control?