Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: bigallan on November 08, 2021, 10:08:50 pm
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Scab scab scab scab
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Oh dear!
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dinosaur dinosaur dinosaur dinosaur
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Scab scab scab scab
Why ?
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Good grief. :headbang:
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It's banter but still history of a good derby and it will get chanted at the game as is deserved
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It's banter but still history of a good derby and it will get chanted at the game as is deserved
By kids who weren’t even born then.
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It's banter but still history of a good derby and it will get chanted at the game as is deserved
It's not banter.
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The reality of a class that we are working class that have values and not scabs
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The reality of a class that we are working class that have values and not scabs
What on earth are you going on about?
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They won’t even know what it means, guess it will make a change from the relentless paedo chants that the little darlings usually come out with
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They won’t even know what it means, guess it will make a change from the relentless paedo chants that the little darlings usually come out with
That’s the problem isn’t it, people don’t know history, even very recent history. Most people go through life with a blind fold on, believe what they’re told on Facebook and Twitter now. I had to explain to some of the team I coach what the minute silence was for at the weekend, unbelievable! I dare say quite a few of our fans didn’t know. Not been away much over the last year, is the Paedo chanting the norm now?
Personally never liked Mansfield, more so than Scunny and Rotherham, worked and played a lot of football around Nottinghamshire, horrible.
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Not sure they will be bringing that many anyhow. Expect most of their lads will be working when the action is happening.
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They won’t even know what it means, guess it will make a change from the relentless paedo chants that the little darlings usually come out with
That’s the problem isn’t it, people don’t know history, even very recent history. Most people go through life with a blind fold on, believe what they’re told on Facebook and Twitter now. I had to explain to some of the team I coach what the minute silence was for at the weekend, unbelievable! I dare say quite a few of our fans didn’t know. Not been away much over the last year, is the Paedo chanting the norm now?
Personally never liked Mansfield, more so than Scunny and Rotherham, worked and played a lot of football around Nottinghamshire, horrible.
Unfortunately it now seems the norm to chant abuse rather than get behind the team.
The last 2 away games consisted of mainly paedo chants, even aimed at Gomes. On Saturday throughout the second half it was just abuse aimed at their keeper (don’t even know if he has done anything wrong)
Granted there wasn’t much to cheer about on the field but we really have some d**kheads following the Rovers
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They are sad pathetic ignorant idiots.
They are a sad reflection of society and do not show Rovers in a good light.
Yes all clubs have them but we seem to have more than our fair share.
Is it so difficult to just get behind the team and sing proper football songs.
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They won’t even know what it means, guess it will make a change from the relentless paedo chants that the little darlings usually come out with
That’s the problem isn’t it, people don’t know history, even very recent history. Most people go through life with a blind fold on, believe what they’re told on Facebook and Twitter now. I had to explain to some of the team I coach what the minute silence was for at the weekend, unbelievable! I dare say quite a few of our fans didn’t know. Not been away much over the last year, is the Paedo chanting the norm now?
Personally never liked Mansfield, more so than Scunny and Rotherham, worked and played a lot of football around Nottinghamshire, horrible.
Unfortunately it now seems the norm to chant abuse rather than get behind the team.
The last 2 away games consisted of mainly paedo chants, even aimed at Gomes. On Saturday throughout the second half it was just abuse aimed at their keeper (don’t even know if he has done anything wrong)
Granted there wasn’t much to cheer about on the field but we really have some d**kheads following the Rovers
That inane taunting of the Scunny keeper is just pathetic.
It happened the last time we were there too to the same keeper.
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Not sure they will be bringing that many anyhow. Expect most of their lads will be working when the action is happening.
Very subtle, bet he doesn’t get it.
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How’s pathetic is it that singing paedo chants is seen as funny and appropriate! As a youngster I would sing my heart out to support the club, would never of entered my head to sing about child abuse. Maybe says more about the people singing these things and their lived experiences.
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Scab scab scab scab
Just for clarity, were you involved in the 1984/5 strike?
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It's banter but still history of a good derby and it will get chanted at the game as is deserved
FFS it was nearly 40 years ago, move on.
COYR
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Yep our 12 year olds will shout it at their 12 year olds
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Transported back to 1984, just what we need. Might be a good idea if these supporters just got behind the team, leave politics to others.
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The reality of a class that we are working class that have values and not scabs
It's a pity your precious 'values' don't include knowing what banter really is, and it's not the moronic use of the word that you're using as a figleaf for your pathetic behaviour.
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Scab, scab, scab, scab. Yes, me too, it’s still raw.
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Do they still burn old ladies as witches where you live?
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This sort of retarded attitude does not stand us in good Stead,Scargill has a lot to answer for by calling the Strike in an un democratic fashion.
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This sort of retarded attitude does not stand us in good Stead,Scargill has a lot to answer for by calling the Strike in an un democratic fashion.
Absolutely spot on he used good men for his own political ends. He also played the ace card, lost and took away the bargaining power of the moderate unions.
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
I'd have to look it up to be certain but I think secondary strikes had been made illegal by that time.
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
I'd have to look it up to be certain but I think secondary strikes had been made illegal by that time.
Not talking about secondary strikes Glynn just other strikes taking place, certainly the NUR would have called a strike on pay and conditions
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
I'd have to look it up to be certain but I think secondary strikes had been made illegal by that time.
Not talking about secondary strikes Glynn just other strikes taking place, certainly the NUR would have called a strike on pay and conditions
Anyone not directly in contention with their own employers are taking secondary action.
And I think it would be a massive assumption that Scargill was in any way popular with other union leaders and that they'd want to help him in any way, especially in this folly.
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
I'd have to look it up to be certain but I think secondary strikes had been made illegal by that time.
Not talking about secondary strikes Glynn just other strikes taking place, certainly the NUR would have called a strike on pay and conditions
Anyone not directly in contention with their own employers are taking secondary action.
And I think it would be a massive assumption that Scargill was in any way popular with other union leaders and that they'd want to help him in any way, especially in this folly.
Scargill wasn’t popular but the NUR were in conflict with the BR board just scared of Thatcher, if a vote had taken place things may have been different. All conjecture though and it should be left in the pass. I will sit and cringe when I hear the inevitable chants
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Let’s hope we never play Lazio or Roma… colonisers! Caster building bas**rds.
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Do they still burn old ladies as witches where you live?
Only if the old lady is Margaret Thatcher
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2 pages now so giving the op more credence than deserved?
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2 pages now so giving the op more credence than deserved?
What’s credence got to do with your comment?
The fella typed a post about his feelings of a true episode in our local history that meant a lot to our town and also as a Rovers supporter.
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Misguided, JMHO
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
Don’t really want to prolong this thread but there was a vote
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Does anyone think things would have been different if everyone went out on strike back then?
Just more families without food on plates.
And yes, I was around in the 80,s. Mums family from stainy, dads from Moorends. Both pit families.
Striking was as a futile then, as it is now.
No I believe you are wrong, if Scargill had put his ego to one side and called a vote the strike would have been legal and then more industries would have been inclined to join in. Remember that up till then Unions we’re far stronger before that strike
Don’t really want to prolong this thread but there was a vote
By the NUM membership ? The strike was found to be illegal in September 84 as no vote had been taken by the membership.
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There had been a vote by the Yorkshire Area membership, albeit a few years earlier but this still technically supported the strike action in the region.
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How can anybody think that Arthur Scargill was blameless in what happened to the miners?
His ego cost miners thousands in lost earnings plus hastening the demise of the mining industry.
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Is old Arthur still holed up in his grace and favour bungalow?
I bet his Missus never had to do a turn on the stage in the walfare club on a sunday afternoon to make ends meet?
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There had been a vote by the Yorkshire Area membership, albeit a few years earlier but this still technically supported the strike action in the region.
Correct - the year previously with a mandate up to and including strike action
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Please note, a vote in Yorkshire!
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Is old Arthur still holed up in his grace and favour bungalow?
I bet his Missus never had to do a turn on the stage in the walfare club on a sunday afternoon to make ends meet?
He also had a flat for life in the Barbican till a few years ago, when the NUM had to fight a court action to reclaim it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386730/Arthur-Scargill-faces-eviction-1-5m-luxury-apartment-NUM-launch-legal-action.html
Also managed to wangle a car allowance for life:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/302631/Arthur-Scargill-fights-NUM-for-50k-perks
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Is old Arthur still holed up in his grace and favour bungalow?
I bet his Missus never had to do a turn on the stage in the walfare club on a sunday afternoon to make ends meet?
He also had a flat for life in the Barbican till a few years ago, when the NUM had to fight a court action to reclaim it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386730/Arthur-Scargill-faces-eviction-1-5m-luxury-apartment-NUM-launch-legal-action.html
Also managed to wangle a car allowance for life:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/302631/Arthur-Scargill-fights-NUM-for-50k-perks
Daily Mail, Daily Express, good reliable sources.
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Only reporting what happened in court
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Did Scargill draw his wages during the strikes.
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Good grief. Another football thread turns into a political debate.
If debate is the right word.
The miners strike referred to happened over 37 years ago.
What on earth this has got to do with Mansfield Town FC and Doncaster Rovers FC I do not know. Thought they were both football clubs.
So for someone to open a new thread titled scabs scabs scabs has no bearing whatsoever with DRFC v Mansfield Town FA Cup Round 2 fixture in 2021
Quite frankly it would have been nothing to do with this fixture if it was in 1984.
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Is old Arthur still holed up in his grace and favour bungalow?
I bet his Missus never had to do a turn on the stage in the walfare club on a sunday afternoon to make ends meet?
He also had a flat for life in the Barbican till a few years ago, when the NUM had to fight a court action to reclaim it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386730/Arthur-Scargill-faces-eviction-1-5m-luxury-apartment-NUM-launch-legal-action.html
Also managed to wangle a car allowance for life:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/302631/Arthur-Scargill-fights-NUM-for-50k-perks
Daily Mail, Daily Express, good reliable sources.
I’m sure legal proceedings would have started if the reports were untrue.
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Good grief. Another football thread turns into a political debate.
If debate is the right word.
The miners strike referred to happened over 37 years ago.
What on earth this has got to do with Mansfield Town FC and Doncaster Rovers FC I do not know. Thought they were both football clubs.
So for someone to open a new thread titled scabs scabs scabs has no bearing whatsoever with DRFC v Mansfield Town FA Cup Round 2 fixture in 2021
Quite frankly it would have been nothing to do with this fixture if it was in 1984.
It never was a football thread.
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Good grief. Another football thread turns into a political debate.
If debate is the right word.
The miners strike referred to happened over 37 years ago.
What on earth this has got to do with Mansfield Town FC and Doncaster Rovers FC I do not know. Thought they were both football clubs.
So for someone to open a new thread titled scabs scabs scabs has no bearing whatsoever with DRFC v Mansfield Town FA Cup Round 2 fixture in 2021
Quite frankly it would have been nothing to do with this fixture if it was in 1984.
It never was a football thread.
In that case it should be in Off Topic.
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Good grief. Another football thread turns into a political debate.
If debate is the right word.
The miners strike referred to happened over 37 years ago.
What on earth this has got to do with Mansfield Town FC and Doncaster Rovers FC I do not know. Thought they were both football clubs.
So for someone to open a new thread titled scabs scabs scabs has no bearing whatsoever with DRFC v Mansfield Town FA Cup Round 2 fixture in 2021
Quite frankly it would have been nothing to do with this fixture if it was in 1984.
It never was a football thread.
In that case it should be in Off Topic.
Agree
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Defiantly an off topic debate in my opinion .
I don't particularly like talking about the 84/85 Miners Strike , it's too painful and I think it's the case with the majority of ex miners who were involved .
The strike left a good many of us with scars that we live with but you never really get over them .
I don't particularly want to hear spotty kids shouting scab at Mansfield , Forest or County fans to tell the truth .
I know what I think of those who worked during the conflict and that's never changed or ever likely to all these years later .
It's interesting to read some of the comments about Scargill on this thread .
I wasn't a fan , never was of the bloke at any time .
The fact is he'd no choice but to take strike action when Cortonwood was announced it was closing .
The local and area NUM delegates were never going to be talked down by the hierarchy at the top of the NUM and unions are bottom to top organisations .
If Scargill hadn't gone the way he did the membership especially in Yorkshire would have strung him up .
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Tyke that’s a fair summary and mirrors my thoughts and feelings