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I doubt many come across in Dinghies, they are coming in on stolen identity documents, they have developed an entire industry around forging documents and stealing identities.
Not all customs and border control officers are good at their jobs though.[/quoteApparently Border Force staff quitting in Droves, they have also halved the new entrants training course to 3 weeks from 6!
Not all customs and border control officers are good at their jobs though.
Makes me laugh the way the media label these parties like in Italy and Sweden as being right wing on the verge of far right. They aren't. They just want things addressing that useless politicians previously have failed to address on behalf of the people. Nothing right wing about that. They just want to sweep up the shit that previous failing political parties have left behind.
Another 1000 yesterday. That’s very nearly 40000 already this year. The vast majority now making the crossing are not from Eritrea or Iraq. They are Albanians.
Quote from: normal rules on October 30, 2022, 07:08:47 pmAnother 1000 yesterday. That’s very nearly 40000 already this year. The vast majority now making the crossing are not from Eritrea or Iraq. They are Albanians. Really, thats interesting, have you the source evidence for that?Earlier this month only 18% were from Albania so 82% weren't. A lot must have changed in two weeks.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793
NR1) We are still receiving a tiny fraction of the number of immigrants that the rest of Europe is dealing with.2) Reports today are that the Home Secretary has been told by officials that she is breaking UK law in the way she is housing the arrivals in internment camps.3) The Home Office's own figures say that, of the applications for asylum that they have processed, only 4% have been rejected.5) Here's the real question. In the light of all of that information, shouldn't we be making it possible for asylum applicants to make legal applications for asylum, rather than forcing them into illegally crossing the Channel?
Labours response to this crisis:Labour has accused the government of allowing a huge backlog of asylum claims to build up, and failing to deal with the increased number of Channel crossings this year.Earlier, the party's shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper said “added bureaucracy” meant claims were taking 3-6 months longer to process.She said her party would reduce this, and also wanted to reduce the number of people being sent to hotels, adding that “increasing the use of hotels is itself a sign of failure”.She added there had been a “huge proliferation” in criminal gang activity driving increased crossings, including Albanian organised crime.The party wants the government to set up a specialist unit within the National Crime Agency tasked with tackling the problem.But here’s the thing. Labour propose to reduce the backlog and fast track asylum applications. I would very much like to hear the “what then” policy if asylum applications fail. I want to see a govt where we deal with these migrants firmly and fairly and quickly. If they fail application then what ? Because if Labour came out with a policy of shipping these people straight back to say Albania within weeks of them arriving illegally then they would get my vote at the next GE. Something I thought I would never hear myself say. But we all know the truth of the matter. It simply won’t happen. And the asylum centres being set up around the country will continue to overflow. Hotels in seaside resorts around the country will continue to fill up. Our NHS will struggle more and so it goes on.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 31, 2022, 11:13:06 amNR1) We are still receiving a tiny fraction of the number of immigrants that the rest of Europe is dealing with.2) Reports today are that the Home Secretary has been told by officials that she is breaking UK law in the way she is housing the arrivals in internment camps.3) The Home Office's own figures say that, of the applications for asylum that they have processed, only 4% have been rejected.5) Here's the real question. In the light of all of that information, shouldn't we be making it possible for asylum applicants to make legal applications for asylum, rather than forcing them into illegally crossing the Channel?On point 1, the uk is ranked fifth in the world for the number of foreign born residents (immigrants) in the world. Based on stats provided by World population review. Only surpassed by Russia, the USA , Saudi Arabia and Germany. Just one EU country. On point 2. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Where else are they to be housed until a proper solution can be found?On point 3. The stats provided by the home office for “processed” application are very misleading. The current asylum application process is complex to say the least. The 4 % they allude to will be those at the first hurdle. There are many many asylum applicants in this country who have been here 10 years, who are still pending final decision. Why is this? Because we have no current strategy to deport people for the uk in the sort of numbers we would need to to bring this whole thing under control. On point 4. Let’s not forget that the current uk govt policy for successful asylum application is that the applicant must satisfy 2 criteria. One is that they have left their home country, that’s the easy bit. The second is that they must prove that they are escaping persecution and for them to go home would put their lives at risk. As per the 1951 refugee convention. Albanians are leaving Albania because they are desperate for a better standard of living. That does not fit with current uk govt policy for asylum.
Some 12,000 Albanians have entered the UK in small boats compared with 800 last year. ( telegraph 5 days ago)Wilts. You may note I said the vast majority NOW making the crossing . That’s not over this whole year. That is much more recently. But for the year around a third of all migrants are from Albania. These are not fleeing a war torn country or oppression. They come for our attractive state benefit system, NHS and general standard of living.
Quote from: normal rules on October 31, 2022, 11:46:26 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 31, 2022, 11:13:06 amNR1) We are still receiving a tiny fraction of the number of immigrants that the rest of Europe is dealing with.2) Reports today are that the Home Secretary has been told by officials that she is breaking UK law in the way she is housing the arrivals in internment camps.3) The Home Office's own figures say that, of the applications for asylum that they have processed, only 4% have been rejected.5) Here's the real question. In the light of all of that information, shouldn't we be making it possible for asylum applicants to make legal applications for asylum, rather than forcing them into illegally crossing the Channel?On point 1, the uk is ranked fifth in the world for the number of foreign born residents (immigrants) in the world. Based on stats provided by World population review. Only surpassed by Russia, the USA , Saudi Arabia and Germany. Just one EU country. On point 2. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Where else are they to be housed until a proper solution can be found?On point 3. The stats provided by the home office for “processed” application are very misleading. The current asylum application process is complex to say the least. The 4 % they allude to will be those at the first hurdle. There are many many asylum applicants in this country who have been here 10 years, who are still pending final decision. Why is this? Because we have no current strategy to deport people for the uk in the sort of numbers we would need to to bring this whole thing under control. On point 4. Let’s not forget that the current uk govt policy for successful asylum application is that the applicant must satisfy 2 criteria. One is that they have left their home country, that’s the easy bit. The second is that they must prove that they are escaping persecution and for them to go home would put their lives at risk. As per the 1951 refugee convention. Albanians are leaving Albania because they are desperate for a better standard of living. That does not fit with current uk govt policy for asylum. Do you have a source for that first claim? I'd be interested to see the numbers.By the way, the 4% figure came from a statement at the Home Affairs Committee in Parliament last week. The Home Office has processed 15% of all the incoming asylum cases in the last year (which shocked the MPs on the Committee, as it should - it's that incompetence that's resulting in applicants illegally being incarcerated for months at Manston). Of those, 96% had had their cases approved. Full leave to remain in the country. Don't take my word for it. That's direct from a Govt minister.