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Copps is Magic

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Herbie Kane
« on November 24, 2018, 05:10:41 pm by Copps is Magic »
Would be more effective up front than May, and, most of the time, Marquis.

Discuss.

Why not try it. Or get a goal poacher in January McCann. We're going to fall short this season if we can't convert



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drfchound

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #1 on November 24, 2018, 05:11:48 pm by drfchound »
It would cost a fair bit of money to bring in a predator finisher.

dickos1

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #2 on November 24, 2018, 05:13:22 pm by dickos1 »
Try it and we lose our most influential player in middle of park

mushRTID

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #3 on November 24, 2018, 05:17:32 pm by mushRTID »
Our most influential player by a mile and move him? Not for me I’m afraid

Copps is Magic

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #4 on November 24, 2018, 05:19:34 pm by Copps is Magic »
Well then consign yourself to having an above average midfield but finishing 7th to 10th.

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« Reply #5 on November 24, 2018, 05:28:01 pm by PDX_Rover »
Who knows who we are looking at for January?

IDM

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #6 on November 24, 2018, 05:31:35 pm by IDM »
Sounds like you’re writing Marquis off too easily.. once he regains his scoring form, and Wilks too, and Rowe back in the fold, we have a solid base.

Yes, try and bring someone else in during January.. can’t argue against that..

Copps is Magic

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #7 on November 24, 2018, 05:40:27 pm by Copps is Magic »
I don't think anyone's writing Marquis off.

But here's some concrete advise, time your runs better. Five incredible through balls today wasted because he strayed offside. And don't turn round blaming your teammates.

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #8 on November 24, 2018, 05:41:03 pm by dickos1 »
Well then consign yourself to having an above average midfield but finishing 7th to 10th.

If you put your best player out of position you are probably consigning yourself to bottom half

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #9 on November 24, 2018, 05:45:17 pm by Copps is Magic »
Well then consign yourself to having an above average midfield but finishing 7th to 10th.

If you put your best player out of position you are probably consigning yourself to bottom half

Rowe, Whiteman, Crawford, Copps form a more than competent enough midfield.

Football is about scoring goals to win. It's no good being the best team in the league around the center circle.

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #10 on November 24, 2018, 05:48:29 pm by dickos1 »
It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker

Copps is Magic

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #11 on November 24, 2018, 05:50:37 pm by Copps is Magic »
The header today was, I don't know if you've seen it. 6 yards in front of goal, hanging around, ball comes to him he bangs it in with no hesitation.

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« Reply #12 on November 24, 2018, 05:54:17 pm by dickos1 »
Yes I did
But look at his other goals, if he’d been a striker he wouldn’t have got them.
We would lose so much from our team if he left the middle of the park.
If he’s scored 4 and 4 from midfield then we’re gerring both things, his midfield performances plus the goals.
Would be like putting lampard up front just because he used to score a lot of goals from coming late into the box

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #13 on November 24, 2018, 05:55:27 pm by Rovers91 »
Putting Kane as a striker is a ridiculous idea, keep him where he is where he can influence the game. Agree to getting another striker in January to help support Marquis.

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« Reply #14 on November 24, 2018, 05:56:40 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker

It's a fair point. As he is now showing he can chip in with goals but I'd rather have him starting in midfield. If GM saw fit to move him further forward during a game then fair dos.  We have a great crop of players who can adapt. It's easy to be impatient when we're not perhaps converting enough chances but I'm sure GM will find a way to improve it, if it means bringing someone in.

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #15 on November 24, 2018, 05:56:56 pm by Alan Southstand »
We might not have him after December!

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #16 on November 24, 2018, 06:04:50 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Might. Always look on the bright side of life. We better enjoy the rest of the games he plays for us then!

dickos1

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« Reply #17 on November 24, 2018, 06:07:14 pm by dickos1 »
It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker

It's a fair point. As he is now showing he can chip in with goals but I'd rather have him starting in midfield. If GM saw fit to move him further forward during a game then fair dos.  We have a great crop of players who can adapt. It's easy to be impatient when we're not perhaps converting enough chances but I'm sure GM will find a way to improve it, if it means bringing someone in.

But he’s scoring goals because he’s playing in midfield. Putting him as a striker doesn’t mean he will then start scoring more goals.
Football isn’t as simplistic as that

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #18 on November 24, 2018, 06:12:17 pm by keith79 »
No one ever played Frank lampard upfront. (Without checking this may not be true)

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« Reply #19 on November 24, 2018, 06:12:56 pm by Monkcaster_Rover »
I think Herbies that good you could chuck him in at left back and he'd still look a cut above. He's just streets ahead in terms of footballing nouse.

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« Reply #20 on November 24, 2018, 06:13:50 pm by Copps is Magic »
It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker

It's a fair point. As he is now showing he can chip in with goals but I'd rather have him starting in midfield. If GM saw fit to move him further forward during a game then fair dos.  We have a great crop of players who can adapt. It's easy to be impatient when we're not perhaps converting enough chances but I'm sure GM will find a way to improve it, if it means bringing someone in.

But he’s scoring goals because he’s playing in midfield. Putting him as a striker doesn’t mean he will then start scoring more goals.
Football isn’t as simplistic as that

And football isn't as structured/rigid as you're making out either. Thinking that a young player' put in a position, necessarily has to stay there because he's playing well doesn't always make sense. Remember Gareth Bale playing at left back or wherever he used to play?

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #21 on November 24, 2018, 06:16:59 pm by Alickismyhero »
I go along with CIM, this kid can do anything at this level of football. I would give it a go even, as suggested earlier, it was just for part of a game.  Its good to mix things up in a game to cause confusion in the opposition.

 He's not as good as the great man Alick but he's not far behind.

mushRTID

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #22 on November 24, 2018, 06:20:45 pm by mushRTID »
How would Liverpool feel about this if they are intending to develop him into a top midfielder?


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« Reply #23 on November 24, 2018, 06:45:43 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Liverpool signed him because he's a very talented footballer. He's intelligent, he can adapt his game. Ronaldo and Messi are not strikers but score goals for fun. A manager or coach worth their salt will not pigoen hole him but play him in areas that get the best out of him.

Herbie in a recent interview said he played up front as a youngster so he has the eye for goal and I think McCann is tapping into that talent.

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« Reply #24 on November 24, 2018, 06:48:58 pm by IDM »
He’s already a great asset in midfield and an outstanding future prospect at a higher level.

Don’t change anything.. if we are a goalscoring threat from midfield, all the better.. let the opposition worry themselves with Marquis and leave space for Kane etc to come through..

GazLaz

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #25 on November 24, 2018, 06:49:32 pm by GazLaz »
Farce thread.

IDM

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #26 on November 24, 2018, 06:52:22 pm by IDM »
Farce thread.

Crap - it’s a perfectly valid thread whether or not you agree with the posters..

GazLaz

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« Reply #27 on November 24, 2018, 06:54:09 pm by GazLaz »
Farce thread.

Crap - it’s a perfectly valid thread whether or not you agree with the posters..

It’s like saying you think May should play in goal. Ridiculous.

IDM

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #28 on November 24, 2018, 06:57:12 pm by IDM »
No, the OP posted a viewpoint and asked others to discuss..

I disagree with the OP but that’s ok isn’t it.?

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Re: Herbie Kane
« Reply #29 on November 24, 2018, 06:58:52 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
It's a debate, Someone asked a question and so far the responses have been constructive!

 

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