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Players move on, always have, always will. Remember football is job, who wouldn’t move jobs for more money and less travelling, 90% of people on here I bet
I was hounded for saying its written all over him that he wants to leave. Its obvious. Will also be hounded for saying he is replaceable too, because he absolutely is. If somebody said we lose Whiteman and the funds will get us Sims with cash to spare I am sure there would be many of us happy to drive young Benjamin to Preston whether he wanted to go or not. Unlikely to happen but Im just highlighting the fact that when he goes it wont end our season providing we spend the money wisely.
Quote from: StocksArmy on January 09, 2021, 07:46:30 pmI was hounded for saying its written all over him that he wants to leave. Its obvious. Will also be hounded for saying he is replaceable too, because he absolutely is. If somebody said we lose Whiteman and the funds will get us Sims with cash to spare I am sure there would be many of us happy to drive young Benjamin to Preston whether he wanted to go or not. Unlikely to happen but Im just highlighting the fact that when he goes it wont end our season providing we spend the money wisely.I disagree. If Ben leaves, that would mean that, along with Sims, we'd be losing our 2 most productive players.Unless we can replace them like for like, and I doubt that we can, our promotion push would be seriously hampered IMO.
I think what probably makes it so hard to take right now is we're in the middle of a promotion campaign and could very realistically possibly win the league, with him as captain. At least Marquis waited until the summer (albeit late on) before he decided he wanted out.
I think we will sign a couple of young very good players from wolves, West Brom, villa
On loan, It’s not what we should be doing but with no fans or revenue I can’t see the club spending good money on a replacement
Ah well, it seems like Giddings was in the know then and not just making mischief.When Moore says that Ben “blew up,” that could be taken in more than one way too.
Quote from: drfchound on January 09, 2021, 08:34:07 pmAh well, it seems like Giddings was in the know then and not just making mischief.When Moore says that Ben “blew up,” that could be taken in more than one way too.Giddings wasn't in the 'know' at all.He doesn't speak to the club, and he did say he would be gone by the weekend, which didn't, and hasn't happened.
Quote from: silent majority on January 09, 2021, 08:37:01 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 09, 2021, 08:34:07 pmAh well, it seems like Giddings was in the know then and not just making mischief.When Moore says that Ben “blew up,” that could be taken in more than one way too.Giddings wasn't in the 'know' at all.He doesn't speak to the club, and he did say he would be gone by the weekend, which didn't, and hasn't happened.Maybe he doesn’t speak to the club but he could have got his information from someone who does.After all, he apparently isn’t too wide of the mark is he.I agree that he spout off some crap but 8n this case he must have got the news from somewhere because no one on here had mentioned Ben possibly going to Preston before Giddings made his announcement.
Thanks martin Do you know if they’re miles away from our valuation or are we close enough that a deal seems likely
Quote from: drfchound on January 09, 2021, 08:41:28 pmQuote from: silent majority on January 09, 2021, 08:37:01 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 09, 2021, 08:34:07 pmAh well, it seems like Giddings was in the know then and not just making mischief.When Moore says that Ben “blew up,” that could be taken in more than one way too.Giddings wasn't in the 'know' at all.He doesn't speak to the club, and he did say he would be gone by the weekend, which didn't, and hasn't happened.Maybe he doesn’t speak to the club but he could have got his information from someone who does.After all, he apparently isn’t too wide of the mark is he.I agree that he spout off some crap but 8n this case he must have got the news from somewhere because no one on here had mentioned Ben possibly going to Preston before Giddings made his announcement.Seriously? He was well wide of the mark, the 'rumour mil' had Ben and Preston connected ages ago. What Giddings said was he would be gone by the weekend. How did that work out?
Quote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2021, 08:51:19 pmThanks martin Do you know if they’re miles away from our valuation or are we close enough that a deal seems likely Well, firstly let me say that some of the transfer fees mentioned on this forum are well wide of the mark. In this current market fees are drastically reduced.The Barnsley bids during the summer were particularly pathetic, and the Preston bids have exceeded them by some margin. But we're still a fair bit short and I'm not sure if we'll get there. Even if Preston did a lot of our supporters would be extremely disappointed. The club are doing what they can, but if his head is turned, which it has been, then negotiating can be tricky.
Quote from: silent majority on January 09, 2021, 08:57:22 pmQuote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2021, 08:51:19 pmThanks martin Do you know if they’re miles away from our valuation or are we close enough that a deal seems likely Well, firstly let me say that some of the transfer fees mentioned on this forum are well wide of the mark. In this current market fees are drastically reduced.The Barnsley bids during the summer were particularly pathetic, and the Preston bids have exceeded them by some margin. But we're still a fair bit short and I'm not sure if we'll get there. Even if Preston did a lot of our supporters would be extremely disappointed. The club are doing what they can, but if his head is turned, which it has been, then negotiating can be tricky. SM your insight and honest about tmwhat you can share is very much appreciated.I do think we can learn something from Peterbrough in one way on transfers though. We are a great club clearly at looking after players and its though no fault of drfc that he has had his head turned. Therefore for once we need to play had ball. We don't need to sell him so why do that? We have a squad that needs utilising and showed today how they all came together for each other.If he wants to go it has to be for the value we want, not one because our hand is being forced
That is how I feel about the situation DBR.We have to stick out for valuation though.