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What’s not to get? It’s nothing to do with the goals, He was our main striker and we sold him for a lot of money but then we never used got anyone in of the same calibre. If we keep selling our best players and not replacing them with players of the same calibre then we’re going to struggle. Other clubs do it Brentford sold Watkins and bought ToneyPeterboro sold Toney and bought clarke-HarrisMost clubs who sell their best player for a lot of money would re invest that money in a replacement
Anyone on here who calls DM a liar should be impeached for incitement to riot .
Quote from: dickos1 on January 10, 2021, 07:39:11 amWhat’s not to get? It’s nothing to do with the goals, He was our main striker and we sold him for a lot of money but then we never used got anyone in of the same calibre. If we keep selling our best players and not replacing them with players of the same calibre then we’re going to struggle. Other clubs do it Brentford sold Watkins and bought ToneyPeterboro sold Toney and bought clarke-HarrisMost clubs who sell their best player for a lot of money would re invest that money in a replacementWhat's to say Moore doesn't just prefer to make the type of signings he's making? If he knows an academy kid is good but probably out of his price range to buy permanently, what's the harm in getting them on loan before spunking money on them and seeing if they fit in. Did no harm with Cameron John, did it?
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 09, 2021, 10:47:10 pmThere are also lots of clubs who get it wrong and spend more than they can afford.The Owners won't be upping their budget and let's not forget that things are changing with FFP anyway with tighter constraints. Thats different to what i'm saying but i agree and we shouldn't be upping budgets in the current climate as such as we'd like to go for it. I'm saying if each manager has a completely different style then we'll need to recruit a new squad every other year if they are in charge of recruitment. Really we (the board) should set what they of club we are (play nice football, sign promising players & loans etc) and employ managers to fit that rather than shape the club to fit the manager only for them to leave after a season.
There are also lots of clubs who get it wrong and spend more than they can afford.The Owners won't be upping their budget and let's not forget that things are changing with FFP anyway with tighter constraints.
Good post DBR but I can’t help thinking this is the wrong time for Ben and for us. We all know he wants and deserves a rise up the football ladder, but the disruption it could create could be very harmful to any hopes we have of promotion.We should be doing all we can to hang onto Ben until the summer and then he can choose what’s best for him - stay with us in the Championship or try elsewhere!
Quote from: dickos1 on January 10, 2021, 07:39:11 amWhat’s not to get? It’s nothing to do with the goals, He was our main striker and we sold him for a lot of money but then we never used got anyone in of the same calibre. If we keep selling our best players and not replacing them with players of the same calibre then we’re going to struggle. Other clubs do it Brentford sold Watkins and bought ToneyPeterboro sold Toney and bought clarke-HarrisMost clubs who sell their best player for a lot of money would re invest that money in a replacement That's all fine and dandy but DM will identify his priorities including players in other positions, it's not for us to determine what his priorities are and insist he blows all the money on one replacement player. As suggested, it's been seen we are just as effective going forward and scoring goals without Marquis. The very same may happen if Whiteman leaves. For example, if the funds were there to a) firm up one of the current loans to a permanent and b) acquire a further specialist midfield player, you can't bemoan DM making that choice if he feels the sum of the parts will be just as effective.
But that's exactly what we're trying to do though Alan. It doesn't mean we'll be successful, that's down to the player not us.
That feels about right. £1-1.5m.
I reckon 1.5 million gets him
That’s massively under valuing him, Preston themselves spent 2 million last season on a league one central midfielder who has had nothing of a career compared to ben. How we can think 500k-1 million less for ben than Baylis is ok is baffling
There is never a good time to leave but one of the better times for a good player is when maximum value can be achieved - I suspect given all the circumstances that time is now. From the players perspective geography is important which perhaps explains why Hull and QPR were not much incentive. Barnsley is closer to the North West but if their offer was derisory that could explain why there was no movement. From what has been said Ben wants the move to Preston and I am sure he wlll feel some responsibility to get the price right - perhaps that has been discussed and agreed with Ben?From the club's perspective we move on if it seems likely Ben will leave. This is a positive as it opens the door to make progress. In this business Rovers are nowhere near the top of the pyramid but our trajectory is upwards and as fans that has to be a cause for celebration. We have a capable manager who enjoys a lot of respect in the game and I for one am looking forward to the next stage in the clubs development. You can't stand still too long in this game and it is important to keep moving - this means continuous development (and improvement). The Tyke kid who contributes to this board talks a lot of sense.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 10, 2021, 11:05:29 amThat’s massively under valuing him, Preston themselves spent 2 million last season on a league one central midfielder who has had nothing of a career compared to ben. How we can think 500k-1 million less for ben than Baylis is ok is baffling You keep saying 'we'. It's not us, it's what others are prepared to pay.